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Not Mine Craigslist Las Vegas - 1000 New Key West $1 White Chips (1 Viewer)

David Spragg said:
....Your avatar is a chipco isn't it?....
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Yes, it is. My typo, obviously. I have a sizable set of these chips. They appeared in the scrolling Chipco Web site display of chips produced.

No one on CT or the Chipboard had any information about them. I wrote to Chipco twice, asking if they knew who was the originator of those chips, and if they couldn't tell me, to please forward my information on to the originator. I never received a reply from anyone.

I'd love to be sued for using it -- at least then I'd know who the IP owner was!

So much of our information is not well-preserved or coordinated. For instance, the image content lost from CT forever as image sites go out of business or change their terms. And your page on the Borlands is the most authoritative source I've seen. If your site goes away, all that information (and a lot more) will be lost to the greater chipper world. So thanks again for keeping it up.

-- Larry

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pltrgyst said:
Yes, it is. My typo, obviously. I have a sizable set of these chips. They appeared in the scrolling Chipco Web site display of chips produced.

No one on CT or the Chipboard had any information about them. I wrote to Chipco twice, asking if they knew who was the originator of those chips, and if they couldn't tell me, to please forward my information on to the originator. I never received a reply from anyone.

I'd love to be sued for using it -- at least then I'd know who the IP owner was!

So much of our information is not well-preserved or coordinated. For instance, the image content lost from CT forever as image sites go out of business or change their terms. And your page on the Borlands is the most authoritative source I've seen. If your site goes away, all that information (and a lot more) will be lost to the greater chipper world. So thanks again for keeping it up.

-- Larry

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See my other post. I found you some info. :)
 
David Spragg said:
@pltrgyst
Hey, I just found something for you :) :)

Your avatar chip. The chipco record says it was a home set donated by chipco to "Downeast Engraving"

I believe they were the company that chipco used to engrave serial numbers on chips. Good bet that as chipco were on Downeast Drive they were 'next door'.
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Wow, that's terrific! Thank you, thank you very much!

A new hunt begins... :cool:
 
BGinGA said:
Dennis, do you recall how many $1 chips you sent back as defective? Were there other denomination chips also returned as defective? And do you mind sharing the nature of the defects involved? I understand if you'd rather not, but it may help others identify defective chips found in the open market.
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I had an exact list of what went back until very recently. It's gone. I think it was closer to 600 or 700 chips, all denominations. I remember I sent a flat rate box. If the chips were separated into boxes by color, that would explain David seeing 12 boxes.

The common errors:

  • Off-color material in the chips that was not a color in the design, making the chips look like they had junk in them.
  • Red, black or green ink spots on the inlay -- usually just one,but very, very prominent.
  • A mark on the white chips which was sort of "half-moon" shaped, that had 3 or 4 dots in it. It looked like a tool mark, as if someone was using a hand tool to grab chips before they were completely cool. This was common on the white chips.
  • Dots or "junk" visible embedded in the rolling edge.

It was common for a flawed chip to have two or even three flaws from the list above.

It was also common that a whole box would be fine, then another box would have lots of flawed chips. The only logical explanation was that someone in the process was pulling the bad chips and putting them aside, and then someone decided they were fine and could go out. I bet I know who that was.
 
dennis63 said:
I had an exact list of what went back until very recently. It's gone. I think it was closer to 600 or 700 chips, all denominations. I remember I sent a flat rate box. If the chips were separated into boxes by color, that would explain David seeing 12 boxes.

The common errors:

  • Off-color material in the chips that was not a color in the design, making the chips look like they had junk in them.
  • Red, black or green ink spots on the inlay -- usually just one,but very, very prominent.
  • A mark on the white chips which was sort of "half-moon" shaped, that had 3 or 4 dots in it. It looked like a tool mark, as if someone was using a hand tool to grab chips before they were completely cool. This was common on the white chips.
  • Dots or "junk" visible embedded in the rolling edge.

It was common for a flawed chip to have two or even three flaws from the list above.

It was also common that a whole box would be fine, then another box would have lots of flawed chips. The only logical explanation was that someone in the process was pulling the bad chips and putting them aside, and then someone decided they were fine and could go out. I bet I know who that was.
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As I said I only took a quick peek. A dozen boxes was about right. I may have only opened one. More curiosity as they said Key West on the box and I wondered if that was what was in them.
Of course I thought that we were getting all the inventory as part of the process but the same person you are talking about thought otherwise.
 
Searching through old e-mails to see if I could find a reference to exact numbers returned, I found one I saved from Red. I explained some of the issues with the flawed chips. In his reply, Red noted that he "had some white chips here" from the Key West order. He felt the chips "looked fine" to him, but admitted he could see the issues if he "looked closely." It was the e-mail in which he promised to "make this right," the reason I saved it.

At the time I wasn't concerned when he said he had some "white [Key West] chips" other than those in my order. He never said how many. I thought it was a handful.
 
In the end, all I can say is this:

We are all in this hobby, this world, of collectible, high-end casino chips.

There is an incredible standard of integrity in this world. Most of us have known one another by our screen names for years. We've traded internationally and for thousands of dollars based simply on our word. You can see it on this site.

When someone like Red slithers in, he is an exception. He ruined his own reputation, ruined his business and it's longstanding good name, screwed his customers, and even burned the people to whom he sold his business. And for what? A few thousand dollars!

He could have made a hundred times more by doing it right.
 
dennis63 said:
In the end, all I can say is this:

We are all in this hobby, this world, of collectible, high-end casino chips.

There is an incredible standard of integrity in this world. Most of us have known one another by our screen names for years. We've traded internationally and for thousands of dollars based simply on our word. You can see it on this site.

When someone like Red slithers in, he is an exception. He ruined his own reputation, ruined his business and it's longstanding good name, screwed his customers, and even burned the people to whom he sold his business. And for what? A few thousand dollars!

He could have made a hundred times more by doing it right.
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I don't think he could have ever done it right anyway. Wrong skill set, simple as that.

BTW, totally O/T and he probably won't thank me for posting it, but today is/was Jim's 70th birthday :) :)
 
Happy Birthday Jim! I've never met you, but you are the greatest anyway!!!!
 
It's been a long day and I've had a beer. Didn't think I had this pic on my phone but after I caught up with this thread it struck me as appropriate (fun) to post. Just before shipping the mold cups back to CPC I sent David and the gang this picture. Like I said, seems appropriate.[emoji6]
Seriously can not imagine a chip world with out CPC. So many great chips that I can't keep up!
(Happy Birthday Jim!)[emoji322]
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If David Spragg ever decides to run for public office, he has my vote. Same for Redbelly and Dennis. All three are class acts; thank you all.

And Happy Birthday, JimB ! (does he not have an account here?)
 
Look at the enlarged pick in the ad...not the one posted ...one edge spot looks messed up....worth looking into.
 
Based on the photos above, those chips look like flaws to me. The junk in the rolling edge and discolorations in the clay would not be acceptable to me (or anyone, I think.) Again, I don't know the source with certainty, but they could be chips I sent back to Red.

This is exactly what I feared would happen when chips returned to Red were placed on the market -- lots of photos of Key West chips that should have been pulled out and destroyed at the factory, but were not.

Disaster.
 
Yep...picture 2 of 4 in the ad the $25 has wonky edge spor that I haven't seen on a key West before.
 
Just came across this thread. I'm guessing this is also how all these "Authentic Rounders" chips keep popping up on eBay from the same seller... I bought 4 of them. I'm wondering if I'm a sucker now...
 
RainmanTrail said:
Just came across this thread. I'm guessing this is also how all these "Authentic Rounders" chips keep popping up on eBay from the same seller... I bought 4 of them. I'm wondering if I'm a sucker now...
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That guy actually bought a heap when they were sold by the company that made the movie. Not the same guy as evil Dr Red.
 
RainmanTrail said:
That's encouraging at least :)
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You have the real ones. There was one set of Rounders replica on the Roman mold that was made very close to the original. The only discernible differences were 1) the font, and 2) grey bear instead of black bear. See below.

Yours:
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Replicas:
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From the sounds of it, if Red was in charge at the time the Rounders chips were made, he likely would have a stash of extras hidden away somewhere. Maybe he wasn't there though?... Oh well, I'm happy that I have the originals. Whether or not they were actually "on camera" I don't really care.
 
RainmanTrail said:
From the sounds of it, if Red was in charge at the time the Rounders chips were made, he likely would have a stash of extras hidden away somewhere. Maybe he wasn't there though?... Oh well, I'm happy that I have the originals. Whether or not they were actually "on camera" I don't really care.
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Made long before he was there. Besides if Red made more you would be able to tell the difference because all the spots would be fucked up.
 
I don't understand why they don't just CNC a new one if the old got damaged. Clearly it's just not that simple...

Note: I'm ignorant of much
 
David Spragg said:
As far as I know he [Red] completed all outstanding orders (although the level of quality is another issue entirely), refunded one customer (not in full) and tried to screw another who eventually got his refund via chargeback 6 months after the fact.
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Not to stir up old stuff but I just saw this thread. Red screwed at least one other customer because I had an $800 order that never showed up and I never got a refund. He's a real piece of work.
 
toad94 said:
Not to stir up old stuff but I just saw this thread. Red screwed at least one other customer because I had an $800 order that never showed up and I never got a refund. He's a real piece of work.
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...and the list grows longer.

Very sorry to hear this, Mark. Your assessment of him is far too charitable.
 

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