Custom chip hall of fame thread. (2 Viewers)

[Mr Tree]

20 just seems excessive to me. Hell I think ten is high. When you talk about the greatest sets of all time it stars to get a lot more exclusive

 

[Mr Tree]

People can't vote for their own set - pretty standard when voting on things like this.

I'd keep it more exclusive - start with like 8 sets now and then make February the voting month. Elect up to 5 sets in February and reconvene next year. It should be exclusive and very difficult to get into the HoF. I can name a bunch of MLB players (pre-steroid area) that should be in the hall but has just missed out by a hair a couple of years.

They'll get covered in subsequent years.

The nice thing about making people wait like this is that sets have to stand the test of time to get in. You'll have to really want to vote one in if you know that it's only a limited number to start with.

You'd rather have deserving sets not get in then have sets in there that you're sorta meh about. Back to the MLB HoF analogy - I have a really hard time arguing against any of the players in the Hall, but there are plenty that I believe should've gotten in. Some people obviously disagree with me because they're still waiting. And that's the point - a Hall of Fame is the most exclusive of memberships. You can always vote in another set next year but once they're in, they're in.

I'm on the same page with Bergs on this. If you load up every set that belongs in the HOF at once you demean it a little. There should be sets out there where people argue they belong in. That's ok.

 

[Mr Tree]

Also I don't think I'm a fan of temporal restrictions. If a set almost makes it for five years straight that's not a reason to exclude it on the sixth.

 

[Mr Tree]

I think I'm leaning towards doing the voting the following way. A selection committee of long standing members chooses 20-25 sets as nominees. Then these sets are voted on by the general population here.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I concur with limiting the inaugural class. Lets look at this from a percentage POV. How many NFL players make the HOF, on a percentage basis? <1% maybe? It should be an honor to even make the final ballot. Who wasn't honored when their chips were on the final ballot for the Best Chip Ever thread on CT? Who was truly disappointed when their chip lost?

I doubt anyone has ever done a count, but how many custom sets have been posted? 100? 300? By NFL HoF standards, that 1% is a pretty shallow number...

 

[ssanel54]

I think you should set aside at least 10 spots in the inaugural class for the custom chip pioneers. Some sets were made when only 312 spots were offered by ASM, but they blazed the trail for what we have today...or what we had 5 years ago.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I also think that, like the NFL, each year at least one is a "Legacy" set. One of the really old sets that made you go ahhhh.... Like something at least 5* years old

*Just threw 5 out there. I like the idea, but would prefer someone else to determine the exact age for a "Legacy" nomination.

 

[Mr Tree]

Ok, so I'm going to form a selection committee who will pick the sets that are voted on. The selection committee will determine the number to be chosen and the number of nominees.

I want to pick through some of the senior members here. (Assuming they are willing to be part of the committee.)

My initial thoughts apart from myself are to include
JButler
Courage
Redbelly
Bergs
BGinGA

Anyone else have thoughts on the selection committee. Are all the people I put forth willing to be on it?

 

[BGinGA]

A few more strong candidates: abby99, AfterTheFact, AlbinoDragon, B.C., Ben, BPTDirector, Gear, gopherblue, Jeff, k9dr, krafticus, Leonard, links_slayer, Milo013, mipevi, MoscowRadio, PAZ, pltrgyst, Poker Zombie, Puggy, Schmendr1ck, Racer96, toad84, Toby, Tommy, UW85.

... all are active posters with strong chip knowledge and/or custom sets. Apologies to many others I know I've missed (all designers, for example).

You're gonna need a selection committee to select the selection committee....

Maybe you should take applications from interested parties for the positions, and go from there.

Ok, so I'm going to form a selection committee who will pick the sets that are voted on. The selection committee will determine the number to be chosen and the number of nominees.

I want to pick through some of the senior members here. (Assuming they are willing to be part of the committee.)

My initial thoughts apart from myself are to include
JButler
Courage
Redbelly
Bergs
BGinGA

Anyone else have thoughts on the selection committee. Are all the people I put forth willing to be on it?

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I concur with limiting the inaugural class.

20 just seems excessive to me. Hell I think ten is high. When you talk about the greatest sets of all time it starts to get a lot more exclusive

Ten initial sets seems to be a reasonable number (also happens to match up to one for each CT year, 2005-2014). I also like ssanel54's suggestion of including 'pioneer' sets in that initial class -- say three of those, for a total of 13.

 

[Mr Tree]

A few more strong candidates: abby99, AfterTheFact, AlbinoDragon, B.C., Ben, BPTDirector, Gear, gopherblue, Jeff, k9dr, krafticus, Leonard, links_slayer, Milo013, mipevi, MoscowRadio, PAZ, pltrgyst, Poker Zombie, Puggy, Schmendr1ck, Racer96, toad84, Toby, Tommy, UW85.

... all are active posters with strong chip knowledge and/or custom sets. Apologies to many others I know I've missed (all designers, for example).

You're gonna need a selection committee to select the selection committee....

Maybe you should take applications from interested parties for the positions, and go from there.




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Ten initial sets seems to be a reasonable number (also happens to match up to one for each CT year, 2005-2014). I also like ssanel54's suggestion of including 'pioneer' sets in that initial class -- say three of those, for a total of 13.

Geesh. I want to keep the nomination committee fairly nimble. Maybe I will see who is interested then draw a few names that are out of a hat [emoji1]

 

[Jeff]

A chip HOF and recognition of good chip design is a great idea. I think it should be more a guild of dedicated chip people that honor admirable chips as opposed to an ordinal ranking of the best chips. A large compendium and repository of a chip design history is a great idea. That would have a lot better use in my opinion than an exclusive list of 5 chips per year.

I've always admired Courage and Abby's color judgement, BGinGA's encyclopedic chip knowledge and history, JButler's appreciation of a lot of different styles of chips, Pltrgyst's intellect and well-read perspective. I suggest also adding either J5 and/or Ttubby as designers. I think if you go through the many chip design threads at CT, you will find a long list of people who have the background and judgement to form a nominating committee if you want to go that route instead of popular nomination.

 

[Poker Zombie]

While I am very active now, I've only been around since the initial BLGoP GB. There are too many older sets that I don't have access to without multiple page diving. Someone with each of the calendars still - now that is someone who has a true knowledge the chips. Someone that perpetually gets sample sets would also be good on the selection committee, because they can actually see/feel/touch the potential nominees.

That said, I do have the new chip database, and will post all of the new designs in a quarterly thread. This will make future research easier for everyone.

 

[Mr Tree]

A chip HOF and recognition of good chip design is a great idea. I think it should be more a guild of dedicated chip people that honor admirable chips as opposed to an ordinal ranking of the best chips. A large compendium and repository of a chip design history is a great idea. That would have a lot better use in my opinion than an exclusive list of 5 chips per year.

I've always admired Courage and Abby's color judgement, BGinGA's encyclopedic chip knowledge and history, JButler's appreciation of a lot of different styles of chips, Pltrgyst's intellect and well-read perspective. I suggest also adding either J5 and/or Ttubby as designers. I think if you go through the many chip design threads at CT, you will find a long list of people who have the background and judgement to form a nominating committee if you want to go that route instead of popular nomination.

No ranking intended. Just inclusion in a grouping of elite sets. There are a LOT of people here with the qualifications to choose nominees. I just want to avoid having too many chefs. Maybe I will see who is interested in taking the time and then (probably randomly) selecting a handful to make the decision.

 

[Poker Zombie]

No ranking intended. Just inclusion in a grouping of elite sets. There are a LOT of people here with the qualifications to choose nominees. I just want to avoid having too many chefs. Maybe I will see who is interested in taking the time and then (probably randomly) selecting a handful to make the decision.

It certainly would not hurt to have a rotating selection committee each year, just to broaden the prospective field of nominees without clogging up the process every year.

 

[courage]

Late to the party but my 2c so far:

If nominated I'm willing to serve. I'd add ssanel54 to bginga's list of possibles.

I'm on board with customs-only to celebrate the creativity. There are casino sets that I could see making the Hall, although maybe that's a different category? The Mapes certainly make my list.

Generally I'm more excited about sets than single chips, but can see the case for both. With CPC being the only game in town now for full custom clays and the quantity restrictions, it's something to bear in mind going forward. Maybe a killer commemorative chip or add-on is made that would otherwise not have an audience.

Agree completely with berg's general notion of exclusivity for HOF. Plenty of great sets each year for the calendar or other GOAT threads but few that make one green with envy. Regarding distinguishing tourney from cash sets I agree, and don't think it's too hard to define. Some sets do have an odd breakdown, and that's one of the criteria that would hurt its HOF candidacy. Chipsets aren't athletes and I don't think it's possible to quantify HOF criteria, although it would be worth the selection committee discussing what contributes to a qualifier. Not to sidetrack but off top of my head:
* playable breakdown (could be debated)
* distinguishable base colors
* significant artwork (related to mold, owner, cultural icon, etc.)
* makes me wish I owned it

Of course, those criteria pretty much apply to any decent set so more work needs done here!

As for retro sets, I agree with some sort of way to capture those "back in the day" sets. It's amazing how quickly things change. I wish I'd had access to canary yellow, maroon, and bright white for my twin spires set, but I was elated to include the hot new butterscotch and charcoal gray at the time.

Good going, Tom. You've grabbed a tiger by the tail with this.

 

[stocky]

My initial thoughts apart from myself are to include
JButler
Courage
Redbelly
Bergs
BGinGA

Anyone else have thoughts on the selection committee. Are all the people I put forth willing to be on it?

IMO you need a broader committee than this. Including some of the international members Dave posted below will make the HOF a
world wide affair.

A few more strong candidates: abby99, AfterTheFact, AlbinoDragon, B.C., Ben, BPTDirector, Gear, gopherblue, Jeff, k9dr, krafticus, Leonard, links_slayer, Milo013, mipevi, MoscowRadio, PAZ, pltrgyst, Poker Zombie, Puggy, Schmendr1ck, Racer96, toad84, Toby, Tommy, UW85.

 

[Mr Tree]

Ok so let's establish who is willing to serve on the committee. Don't say yes unless you are willing to spend some time in the next couple of weeks pouring over old sets and debating with the rest of the group. If you don't want to be on the committee then no worries. The candidates so far

abby99 - pass
AfterTheFact
AlbinoDrago
B.C. - willing
Ben - pass
Bergs - willing
BGinGA - pass
BPTDirector - pass
Courage - Willing
Gear
gopherblue - willing
JButler - willing
Jeff - pass
k9dr - pass
krafticus - pass
Leonard -pass
links_slayer - willing
Milo013 - willing
mipevi - pass
MoscowRadio - pass
PAZ - pass
pltrgyst - pass
Poker Zombie - willing
Puggy - pass
Racer96
Redbelly - pass
Schmendr1ck - pass
Ssanel54 - willing
toad94 - pass
Toby - willing
Tommy - pass
UW85 - pass

I think once I know who is willing I will pick five people in addition to myself to form the committee. The choice will probably be made randomly.

I also think there should be a rule that no one can serve on the selection committee two years running. That way each year there are some fresh opinions.

If I am missing anyone else that should be on this list let me know.

 

[TexRex]

Mr. Tree, I have a suggestion. I've only read part of this thread, but if you start with a brand new committee every year, you have zero experience at least the first couple of times. Why not have at least a couple of old people just to guide the newbies? I'm not going to serve, so I have no axe in this.

 

[Mr Tree]

Mr. Tree, I have a suggestion. I've only read part of this thread, but if you start with a brand new committee every year, you have zero experience at least the first couple of times. Why not have at least a couple of old people just to guide the newbies? I'm not going to serve, so I have no axe in this.

Because the committee will never be newbies. It will just be different members of the old guard

 

[krafticus]

I'm flattered that my name has come up, but with my current job and family activities, I won't have the time and availability to do much. You have a great list of people there, and think you will be in good hands.

 

[stocky]

I'd be willing to help any way I can if needed, granted there are many more experienced members than me.

 

[MeridianFC]

Just vote this and be done with it.

 

[Mr Tree]

Just vote this and be done with it.

Winner winner chicken dinner

 

[stocky]

Just vote this and be done with it.

I just threw up a little

 

[krafticus]

That's kind of like the Pete rose of chips there.

 

[bivey]

Just vote this and be done with it.

I will be in the minority on this one, but as far as classic, throwback nostalgia goes…there is a place in poker history for these. Granted it's 40 years ago, but a place nonetheless.

Ok, I just slapped myself. Carry on.

 

[links_slayer]

I, too, am flattered to be among that list of chipe xberts. I would be honored and more than happy to help if my name gets drawn.

Full disclosure: CT is blocked at work (but PCF isn't? lololol). My availability during the work day may be limited (hey, I've got a job to do after all ). I have no idea if it would even be an expectation of the committee to take care of things during traditional business hours?

Anyway, thank you for considering me!

 

[Poker Zombie]

I will be in the minority on this one, but as far as classic, throwback nostalgia goes…there is a place in poker history for these. Granted it's 40 years ago, but a place nonetheless.

Ok, I just slapped myself. Carry on.

Minority, yes. Alone, no. The plastic interlocking disks are where many, if not most of us got our first poker experience. That said, I would nominate them somewhere after coins, pretzels, and M&M's.

 

[bivey]

Minority, yes. Alone, no. The plastic interlocking disks are where many, if not most of us got our first poker experience. That said, I would nominate them somewhere after coins, pretzels, and M&M's.

Sounds about right.

 

[Mental Nomad]

Just vote this and be done with it.

You know, these were actually my first chips... Of course, I was five, I think...