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[Nuhockey]

Lost out on these New Mohegan Sun Bridge Jumbo KEMS today. They were new and sealed and would of been a nice additions to the other Red/Black Mohegans I have, but I have my spending limit of around $40-$45 total for a setup. They went for almost $66 with the shipping. Hopefully a PCFer got them.

 

[Buge]

Lost out on these New Mohegan Sun Bridge Jumbo KEMS today. They were new and sealed and would of been a nice additions to the other Red/Black Mohegans I have, but I have my spending limit of around $40-$45 total for a setup. They went for almost $66 with the shipping. Hopefully a PCFer got them.
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Wow those are really cool but definitely seem a bit steep for a setup

 

[Meathooke]

Lost out on these New Mohegan Sun Bridge Jumbo KEMS today. They were new and sealed and would / been a nice additions to the other Red/Black Mohegans I have, but I have my spending limit of around $40-$45 total for a setup. They went for almost $66 with the shipping. Hopefully a PCFer got them.

I was going after those as well... but def not for over $40 (+$10 shipping) !!!!!
:/

 

[DMack]

Guess I should leave this here too
https://www.ebay.com/itm/153143241391?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160811114145&meid=fe0ee78c3eee4af08d647cf85badd7b9&pid=100667&rk=4&rkt=8&sd=224943682178&itm=153143241391&pmt=1&noa=0&pg=2334524&_trksid=p2334524.c100667.m2042&amdata=cksum:153143241391fe0ee78c3eee4af08d647cf85badd7b9|enc:AQAGAAAA8O6au1Fdy1nMWJiVkfxwnREQQeiIEM%2FHEcPi1%2BsGRUWduueLwG3cFY73GUvqznVErFmgFbZi7qeMZlUsDtUkOzGb%2FN0tm0DRS40ix%2BEKe4Qhjm3XussN75OX%2BrHTg%2B1LOGan89X%2BWYS04XkaZjOVT0057stUBCP1jNAqKzhNOXsAfJTHZOjjTE%2BaWeW8BA6cPErKejmpUdUbXBvfoVTJ68w5goHS9g0rOQBD1XldCJ8JuORLF%2F8l1%2FP9Tvt%2BA5xyJK1blAOaFOojykVHjVDoJkgiwJRQzFApXG1wcTQo8gIot2VAzz%2FPZJfN75FNJmpSZQ%3D%3D|ampidL_CLK|clp:2334524

Got some of these in play tonight. There truly is nothing like the feel of KEMs.

 

[pokerplayingpisces]

Got something in the mail today!

 

[cpac54]

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The Hoser Hut needs a setup of maple leaf KEMs!

 

[Nuhockey]

Got some of these in play tonight. There truly is nothing like the feel of KEMs.

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Got something in the mail today!
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Nice @pokerplayingpisces !!! Great Pickup. I'm glad a PCFer got them.

 

[Quad Johnson]

KEM; I enjoy the feel and texture but Jesus that jumbo index is too big. I just can't get behind it. I would only enjoy these in standard index which doesn't suit my home game since we all universally prefer jumbo but KEM's is so large, you have to peel half your hole cards to peek.


Desjgn's blackjack index really is the sweet spot.

 

[upNdown]

Are these really factory sealed?
I saw this vintage setup on eBay and the second I saw it was sealed jumbo index for $16, i insta-clicked. $10 shipping makes it no better deal than a new, contemporary setup - oh well, at least I’ll get to handle some pre-UPC KEMs for the first time in a while.
But anyway, my question is - the 10? Were these really factory sealed with a 10 on the bottom? That makes very little sense to me. But on the other hand, i doubt anybody is resealing used KEMs to try to squeeze out an extra few bucks on eBay. Just curious.

 

[DMack]

Are these really factory sealed?
I saw this vintage setup on eBay and the second I saw it was sealed jumbo index for $16, i insta-clicked. $10 shipping makes it no better deal than a new, contemporary setup - oh well, at least I’ll get to handle some pre-UPC KEMs for the first time in a while.
But anyway, my question is - the 10? Were these really factory sealed with a 10 on the bottom? That makes very little sense to me. But on the other hand, i doubt anybody is resealing used KEMs to try to squeeze out an extra few bucks on eBay. Just curious.
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I’ve had countless KEMs over the decades, and I can’t say I’ve ever seen a sealed deck like that. I do love that Kent back design, though.

 

[LeLe]

Were these really factory sealed with a 10 on the bottom?

I dont think I ever seem any Factory Sealed Card that had 10D at the bottom before, could be a big red flag ?

I believe KEM are always Joker at the bottom but I may be wrong

 

[upNdown]

I’ve had countless KEMs over the decades, and I can’t say I’ve ever seen a sealed deck like that. I do love that Kent back design, though.

I dont think I ever seem any Factory Sealed Card that had 10D at the bottom before, could be a big red flag ?

I believe KEM are always Joker at the bottom but I may be wrong

Right? Seems pretty odd. Well they’re paid for, so I’ll find out soon enough. For whatever it’s worth, at least the other deck is consistent?

 

[LeLe]

I managed to found one sealed set-up that had 10H at 1 deck and Joker at another deck

 

[Nuhockey]

Right? Seems pretty odd. Well they’re paid for, so I’ll find out soon enough. For whatever it’s worth, at least the other deck is consistent?
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I've never seen any cards other than the Jokers at the bottom for sealed KEMS. I've gotten sealed KEMS where the seller could not tell me the Index size because of this. Some newer KEMS do have an info card at the bottom of saying if they are Standard or Jumbo index. However, the fact that both are 10 Diamonds sealed at the bottom of both decks I don't wouldn't think the seller resealed both decks with 10 of Diamonds unless he/she has OCD. As long as they are not warped I think you should be good.

 

[LeLe]

Jumbo index used to be call Super index

I wonder could it be that Super index are relatively newish that time and they had to put 10 card at the bottom to showcase how Super index are different from Standard index

 

[upNdown]

Jumbo index used to be call Super index

I wonder could it be that Super index are relatively newish that time and they had to put 10 card at the bottom to showcase how Super index are different from Standard index

That makes sense
And the packaging for these says “super index”

 

[surfik]

That makes sense
And the packaging for these says “super index”

They look genuine... Nice pattern

 

[Nuhockey]

The New KEM Monacos I got which are sealed has one Joker at the Bottom of one deck and the other has the 10 of Diamonds.

 

[surfik]

Useful link for identification of Kem backs

https://unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=15690

 

[Thomacetti]

Jumbo index used to be call Super index

I wonder could it be that Super index are relatively newish that time and they had to put 10 card at the bottom to showcase how Super index are different from Standard index

^^ Bingo ^^

 

[upNdown]

Well, they’re almost certainly a genuine factory wrap. They appear unplayed and the plastic could certainly be 40 years old.

And this ancient, parchment-like instruction sheet is very cool.

Unfortunately, it looks like the blue deck has a bit of a bow. I do intend to play these, but for now, they’ll stay wrapped, and I’ll try and see if the the upside-down under a dealer button storage method can flatten them any - couldn’t hurt.

No reason to think these are worth more than a retail deck, right?

 

[Thomacetti]

No reason to think these are worth more than a retail deck, right?

Not really (unless from collector perspective (serial, dates, errors, ...) but very cool cards nonetheless.
Wouldn't hurt to store them the good way but doubt that bow is going to be corrected.

 

[upNdown]

Oh hey - replacement cards? I have a KEM arrowback with a K that has a weird defect. It's almost got a dent or a moat running across the middle of it. I say it's a defect because I can't imagine how it could have happened during play - it's not like a thumbnail mark. It's difficult to describe and really wouldn't even photograph. But one of my players noticed it, so I pulled the deck, and I was only able to find it later because I knew it was one of the Kings.
Anyway, long story short, does it matter that I didn't buy the setup? (I got it in trade.) I'll contact KEM, but I just wanted to know if they expect to see a receipt, upon a request for a new card.

 

[Thomacetti]

Oh hey - replacement cards? I have a KEM arrowback with a K that has a weird defect. It's almost got a dent or a moat running across the middle of it. I say it's a defect because I can't imagine how it could have happened during play - it's not like a thumbnail mark. It's difficult to describe and really wouldn't even photograph. But one of my players noticed it, so I pulled the deck, and I was only able to find it later because I knew it was one of the Kings.
Anyway, long story short, does it matter that I didn't buy the setup? (I got it in trade.) I'll contact KEM, but I just wanted to know if they expect to see a receipt, upon a request for a new card.

If you still have the waranty card, you should be good imho

 

[surfik]

Well, they’re almost certainly a genuine factory wrap. They appear unplayed and the plastic could certainly be 40 years old.
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And this ancient, parchment-like instruction sheet is very cool.
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Unfortunately, it looks like the blue deck has a bit of a bow. I do intend to play these, but for now, they’ll stay wrapped, and I’ll try and see if the the upside-down under a dealer button storage method can flatten them any - couldn’t hurt.
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No reason to think these are worth more than a retail deck, right?

50 - 60 usd by my estimate

 

[LeLe]

They look legit, nice find

The button on the KEM card method is sadly only use for delaying / preventing the card bowing and unable to reverse it

 

[chuqii]

First cards I started collecting were KEMs, and I've focused mostly on pre-WWII. Here's a pic from that part of my collection. Glad to try and answer any questions about early KEMs.

 

[chuqii]

Bet you haven't seen this one before. Here's a set of one of the original KEM deck designs from 1935.

If you are interested in antique and vintage playing cards, check out my 11 page Show Us Your Cards thread over at UnitedCardists. Same Chuqii user name. Here's a link to page 1. https://unitedcardists.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6900

 

[LeLe]

I pick this off eBay since it cheap and I want to see the difference between pre and post UPCC

 

[upNdown]

Got these in the mail today. $25 shipped off eBay. Beautiful, right? I clicked but now the second I saw the price, that they were jumbos and that they were sealed. And then I noticed this.

Good news, no warps. Bad news, same backs. Now why the hell would they sell two decks with the same backs? Is that something Kem did? Or were these switched at some point?