Strike1st
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Or looking for your shoes in the snow...
Excuse-O-Meter. Share Your Interesting Excuses For Leaking Out... (1 Viewer)
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Or looking for your shoes in the snow...
Never heard of "leaking out" in this context, but sounds disgusting. Maybe it's a police/medical jargon thing.
Not gonna get into the drama. If somebody can't make my game, it's their loss -- not mine. Life happens, and is too short to sweat the small stuff.
Not gonna get into the drama. If somebody can't make my game, it's their loss -- not mine. Life happens, and is too short to sweat the small stuff.
RowdyRawhide
Full House
Now WTF is wrong with pinochle. ........in the snow would suck though.
And don't even fuckin think about drinkin either
The only time I bailed last minute was when my son and a friend were at the mall. I'd taken my wife to eat, and was dropping her off before heading to the game. We got a call from my son's friend that my son had passed on for no apparent reason. We turned around and headed to the mall (which would have caused me to be late at best). Before we got there, the friend called back to say mall security had called 911. I pulled into the parking lot behind the ambulance. The cause was never clear, though the ambulance crew said my son should be fine.
Then I could have gone, but would have been about 45 minutes late. At best, that's tough. But trying to play distracted? I wasn't going to do it.
I've had several people with seemingly good excuses not make it (car accident on way to game, relative in hospital, death in family and forgot to call me all come to mind); and some I'd deem not so good. But who am I to really judge? For whatever reason, they deemed something else more important than my game. They set their priorities in their life, not me.
Like BG, they missed it -- we didn't miss them. If they no show-no notice, I don't ban them. I do remove them from all future pre-registrations, so they at least have to register again. If they sign up again, and it looks like I might be full, I'll contact them and say I have a player who can take their place. If they tell me they are coming, I expect them to show up since it means someone else won't come because they didn't get a seat.
I was raised to come if I said I'm coming. I do unless it's really something I can't help, or I let the host know as far in advance as possible. But having that expectation of others is bound to cause YOU a lot of stress. Why do that to yourself? If it's that big of a deal, invite an extra player or two and tell everyone "We have more coming than I have seats. First come, first serve on seats if you haven't paid in advance. No refunds unless your seat is sold to someone else." Of course that last part only works for a tournament.
Then I could have gone, but would have been about 45 minutes late. At best, that's tough. But trying to play distracted? I wasn't going to do it.
I've had several people with seemingly good excuses not make it (car accident on way to game, relative in hospital, death in family and forgot to call me all come to mind); and some I'd deem not so good. But who am I to really judge? For whatever reason, they deemed something else more important than my game. They set their priorities in their life, not me.
Like BG, they missed it -- we didn't miss them. If they no show-no notice, I don't ban them. I do remove them from all future pre-registrations, so they at least have to register again. If they sign up again, and it looks like I might be full, I'll contact them and say I have a player who can take their place. If they tell me they are coming, I expect them to show up since it means someone else won't come because they didn't get a seat.
I was raised to come if I said I'm coming. I do unless it's really something I can't help, or I let the host know as far in advance as possible. But having that expectation of others is bound to cause YOU a lot of stress. Why do that to yourself? If it's that big of a deal, invite an extra player or two and tell everyone "We have more coming than I have seats. First come, first serve on seats if you haven't paid in advance. No refunds unless your seat is sold to someone else." Of course that last part only works for a tournament.
I hope you mean passed out
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Leaking out... not a thing AFAIK.
It probably matters more to tourney hosts, at least it's more of a hassle for me if hosting a tourney.
Canceling or bailing I rarely do, but I'm also honest about my status for a game if I'm a maybe or definite, etc.
As for excuses from players I hear as a host, I don't really give a shit. Poker degens are fairly unreliable. They may have tried a better game, or gone busto, or had car trouble, or overslept, or got high, or their spouse or SO said sit. Who knows. I do reserve the right to needle or ridicule them however.
It probably matters more to tourney hosts, at least it's more of a hassle for me if hosting a tourney.
Canceling or bailing I rarely do, but I'm also honest about my status for a game if I'm a maybe or definite, etc.
As for excuses from players I hear as a host, I don't really give a shit. Poker degens are fairly unreliable. They may have tried a better game, or gone busto, or had car trouble, or overslept, or got high, or their spouse or SO said sit. Who knows. I do reserve the right to needle or ridicule them however.
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spirited play is encouraged, douchey behavior is not.
gopherblue
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Lol, that's the second time I've heard someone reference the shoes in the snow incident AND my game. Ya, I've never had anything crazy like that happen at my game. That shoe incident was someone else. Don't recall who though...
Though... Last night I DID have two guys with similar shoes, and one guy accidentally wore the wrong shoes home. Does this count?
Ha ha
Anthony Martino
Royal Flush
I have a poker group I run on Meetup and there are some others in the area. Members from my group also belong to other groups. I had an event coming up and I always contact those who've RSVP'd a few days ahead of time to confirm their attendance.
Guy tells me he will be here, but I also notice that he's RSVP'd to another groups game on the same day, I don't mention it. Of course, he never shows up despite "confirming" his attendance and when I message him about the no-show I get no-response.
Aside from that, haven't had any strange excuses, usually it's people have to work or their wives had other plans for them, etc. Actually, the most dependable attendants to my events have been female, seems more dudes flake on attendance.
Guy tells me he will be here, but I also notice that he's RSVP'd to another groups game on the same day, I don't mention it. Of course, he never shows up despite "confirming" his attendance and when I message him about the no-show I get no-response.
Aside from that, haven't had any strange excuses, usually it's people have to work or their wives had other plans for them, etc. Actually, the most dependable attendants to my events have been female, seems more dudes flake on attendance.
MaxB
Full House
Couple years ago I was almost at Guinness' house for poker but had to turn around for explosive diarrhea. ....I barely made it home too
Was maybe 3 or miles away. .... didn't want to be "that guy" who wrecked his bathroom
Was maybe 3 or miles away. .... didn't want to be "that guy" who wrecked his bathroom
A few years ago I was playing in a local tournament with a bunch of guys I know, and one guy I did not know who happened to ge sitting next to me. Dude next to me gets up from the tabke to answer a call on his cell, then calmly sits back down and deals. Then he says "I've got to go guys, my son has just been shot. I don't know where or by what."
It turned out his teenage son and his buddies were doing the ding dong ditch door bell thing and the homeowner fired a 9mm into his driveway. The bullet ricocheted into his son's shoulder. His son ended up fine, homeowner did some time.
Analysis.,,,legit!
It turned out his teenage son and his buddies were doing the ding dong ditch door bell thing and the homeowner fired a 9mm into his driveway. The bullet ricocheted into his son's shoulder. His son ended up fine, homeowner did some time.
Analysis.,,,legit!
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Calmly sits back down? Confirmed legitimately stunned he didn't rush out the door (and without offering any sort of explanation). The game of cards would be so utterly unimportant to me at that point.
Wow. crazy!
12thMan
Full House
This exactly. It kind of reminds me of sitting around somebody's house back in the day waiting for "the guy" to come over with the party favors... He was in the friend group for sure, but probably one of the most unreliable people on the planet. Still, knowing all this, there was always someone that would start to get heated when he was late meeting up, it's like "Bro, you know we are on drug dealer time at the moment...". lol
detroitdad
Royal Flush
I disagree, at least with out group. Most dudes that commit, show up. IMO whether you commit to play cards, dinner date, ect.... you standby your commitment. You don't cancel last minute because something better comes up.
As stated. I mostly host one table games. A last minute cancellation takes a seat from someone else that I had to turn away.
12thMan
Full House
By the way, am I the only one who thinks of Amber Lamps when I hear "leaking"??? lol
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Agreed.
In this thread, I think we're seeing a difference in game hosting styles and expectations from the player pools. And that's ok (it's normal to have differences). Some here think it odd for hosts to care who shows/bails/etc.. For those that don't care, that's your choice, it's how you run things, and it's what you and your players expect/know.
For a number of us (as expressed here), we see things differently, and an RSVP (for whatever event you're attending) is honored, unless there is a reason not to honor it. It was the way I was raised, and it's the normal for most around here.
A flake/leak/bail does not define the game narrative. It's more of a "behind-the-scenes" host issue. It's definitely noted (especially if it happens frequently by the same person), and it causes some scrambling to fill seats, etc.. But it's not something that normally defines the game.
My game last night ran with 19 players, and not a single person cared. A great time was had. and not one time during my game did I think about the last minute cancellations. I was living in the moment, having a good time, and concentrating on hosting an event for those who were present.
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I guess the point I was trying to make is I've structured my game so no shows suffer by not being there, I try to have it not impact the game too much, so idc what excuse they have. I appreciate rsvp and an eta, but I offer a button bonus to encourage players to be on time. At 11 players we split to 2 tables. Once we combine back to one table latecomers go on the wait list.
Playing cards with meth heads? Inadvisable to say the least.
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Agree 100%, which is why he has been left off the invite list. He just wasn't a good fit for my game.
My players are all raging alcoholics, and meth-addicts and alcoholics don't mix well. (y) :thumbsup:
links_slayer
4 of a Kind
I think you are taking this issue way too seriously. Especially considering:
It's a poker game. Not life and death.
As far as hosting goes, you seem to continually bring up all the "effort" that you put into hosting almost as if you want accolades for doing it. No one is holding a gun to your head (sorry to go to the absurd extreme) and forcing you to do all of this. They also didn't force you to build a nice table and buy nice chips and cards. You could easily make it a BYOB and provide zero food/snacks/beverages and play with dice chips and paper cards on 2 adjoining square folding card tables. You do all this "extra" stuff because you want to (well, this should be the reason IMO). If you feel disrespected or whatever that people don't go out of their way to tell you how much they appreciate it, that's a you problem.
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Interesting. The way that reads to me, the post of mine you quoted seems to suggest I didn't take it too seriously (that it wasn't a big deal). In real life, these issues are minor. They don't really linger in my thoughts. I post online, and after several cynical/critical posts by others, it seems like it takes on a life of it's own, much larger/bigger than it is (or should be). I suppose I should just ignore the critics and not respond... Everyone perceives things differently. Obv there's a difference in the way I think my posts are coming across (and intended) and the way some perceive them.
This thread was simply a means to share funny or interesting excuses they've heard/used. It wasn't intended as anything else.
And I don't perceive that my posts are seeking accolades for the efforts expended hosting. I do love organizing events, but don't need affirmation from others (online) of how fun the events were, or how much work went into them. If you're at the event, you can judge for yourself.
Funny, I think I get as much enjoyment from the process of organizing an event, as participating. I feel like I'm constantly organizing a party (always something to look forward to), WoOt!!!
links_slayer
4 of a Kind
It just seems like you are trying to make issues out of complete (or relative) non-issues or trying to make an entirely non-dramatic situation dramatic just because. I don't think I'm alone in perceiving them that way - and will concede that not everyone perceives them that way. Like your card capper thread(s) and this one about people bailing at the last minute. Then again I'm the one reading into the words on the screen....
manamongkids
Full House
Not necessarily @links_slayer but others in this thread and other threads love to troll on any topic you post. Just my 2c
This, 100%. It's not a big deal unless you choose to make it one.
Psypher1000
Straight Flush
That's all I took it as. Guess not everyone saw it as that. *shrugs*
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Ya, I admit they sometimes are taken to a level of completely untintended drama. I post sometimes to share something that has happened in a poker related capacity. And for a fleeting moment (in the midst of the incident) these moments might generate some angst, drama, or consternation. Sometimes my posts are therapeutic (get it out, get over it), sometimes they're just whimsical (sharing is caring), and sometimes it's my inner voice just ranting (unfiltered). If people are taking these moments as a representation of how my life and poker games go, they're only hearing the very few minor blips, that are very clearly the exception (since that's why I'm posting about them). I rarely focus on the negatives in life.
In almost all of my threads, there's trolls and critics, trying to analyze my personality or being critical of my actions. Some are funny banter (which is appreciated), and some criticism is constructive (which I also appreciate, since that's how we grow), but some critics take on a negative un-fun tone. This seems to escalate these threads into a entirely new realm of drama... If you go back and read from post #1 in this thread... I'm not sure where it became derailed... I can certainly take constructive criticism (I'll be the first to admit I have flaws), but often these critics are way off base. Whether it's because they're trolling or I'm not communicating well.. probably a bit of both.
Take the latest card protector "incident" thread. I told a story, and got flamed by many for my thoughts. Yes, I probably shared too many details (one of my flaws that opens me up to trolling). However, even the critics admitted that it was completely wrong for an uninvolved player to grab my card protector (off my cards) while I was involved in an "all-in" incident. I vented my displeasure here online, but stated that in the moment, I gave the guy a second long stare of disbelief, then moved on. So I get flamed for overreacting, and then hyper analyzed for making a big deal over nothing ("I must be experiencing stress in my life that has caused my overreactions to these incidents" was a comment that had me LOL). Had the critics not created such drama over the thread, I am positive I would have forgotten about the incident within a few days. Post it, (vent) move on IMHO. Besides, who can forget about it now, with @gopherblue trolling about it in every thread I create (including this one), and even changing his avatar to it? Bravo sir. Well played. But who's creating the drama?
Going back to my flaws, I think the biggest one (in the forum-world) is I share too much. For every critic that says I'm creating drama, I get someone who posts (or PMs me) to say they enjoy the stories and threads, and to keep posting (to ignore the critics). However, I just don't think it's worth the mental energy. My goals here are to interact with other chip collectors and poker players, to network, to socialize, and improve my ability to host and play.
I appreciate the feedback everyone. Though I am learning it's not worth my sharing anything personal or "interesting" here anymore. I'll likely just keep my interactions to "welcome to PCF" and the occasional MTTD thread post. It seems like the only way to avoid the negativity and drama.
In almost all of my threads, there's trolls and critics, trying to analyze my personality or being critical of my actions. Some are funny banter (which is appreciated), and some criticism is constructive (which I also appreciate, since that's how we grow), but some critics take on a negative un-fun tone. This seems to escalate these threads into a entirely new realm of drama... If you go back and read from post #1 in this thread... I'm not sure where it became derailed... I can certainly take constructive criticism (I'll be the first to admit I have flaws), but often these critics are way off base. Whether it's because they're trolling or I'm not communicating well.. probably a bit of both.
Take the latest card protector "incident" thread. I told a story, and got flamed by many for my thoughts. Yes, I probably shared too many details (one of my flaws that opens me up to trolling). However, even the critics admitted that it was completely wrong for an uninvolved player to grab my card protector (off my cards) while I was involved in an "all-in" incident. I vented my displeasure here online, but stated that in the moment, I gave the guy a second long stare of disbelief, then moved on. So I get flamed for overreacting, and then hyper analyzed for making a big deal over nothing ("I must be experiencing stress in my life that has caused my overreactions to these incidents" was a comment that had me LOL). Had the critics not created such drama over the thread, I am positive I would have forgotten about the incident within a few days. Post it, (vent) move on IMHO. Besides, who can forget about it now, with @gopherblue trolling about it in every thread I create (including this one), and even changing his avatar to it? Bravo sir. Well played. But who's creating the drama?
Going back to my flaws, I think the biggest one (in the forum-world) is I share too much. For every critic that says I'm creating drama, I get someone who posts (or PMs me) to say they enjoy the stories and threads, and to keep posting (to ignore the critics). However, I just don't think it's worth the mental energy. My goals here are to interact with other chip collectors and poker players, to network, to socialize, and improve my ability to host and play.
I appreciate the feedback everyone. Though I am learning it's not worth my sharing anything personal or "interesting" here anymore. I'll likely just keep my interactions to "welcome to PCF" and the occasional MTTD thread post. It seems like the only way to avoid the negativity and drama.
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This is a very wise bit of commentary, imo:
or as ronoh put it, in a shortened version:
Life is way too short to be overly concerned about what others do, don't do, or why. I have a hard enough time keeping up with my own actions.
or as ronoh put it, in a shortened version:
Life is way too short to be overly concerned about what others do, don't do, or why. I have a hard enough time keeping up with my own actions.
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