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MD Mike

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Hey there again.

We all know that Paulson (GPI) will not issue orders outside of casinos. It's been that way for a little while now. But are any vendors pinging them every once in awhile just in case they change their mind? It happened once right? It can happen again. This ends my Saturday morning wishful thinking for Paulson to come back to home.
 
Do we know why Paulson got out of the non-casino business? not enough business? not worth their time for small orders when they get giant orders for casinos? didn't want to risk security for their casino products?
 
dkersey said:
Do we know why Paulson got out of the non-casino business? not enough business? not worth their time for small orders when they get giant orders for casinos? didn't want to risk security for their casino products?
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Casinos pressured them to stop.
 
Yes, perhaps, if a vendor one day want a run of a few hundred thousand or more WTH&C or similar , a GPI salesman that wants his commission will eventually be able "get it through " .... But as you mention, wholesalers need to pick up the fone to GPI ever 6 mos & hound them, if that is even happening right now ...
 
I feel like they would still sell if we keep pestering them. Like, here's a scenario:

Poker chip vendor A (I won't use real examples like say... @Apache ... ;) ) puts out a request for investors. The request is, "If you invest say $5,000 towards a group purchase, you get a 10% return on chip sales."

If you get enough investors, and bring all that money to the table, would Paulson really look away?

Now, you are probably saying, "Mike this is a lot like a company just going public and having people buy shares."

I say, "Nay. It's more like... venture capital. Where the venture capitalist assumes most of the risk."

I know all this because I got my degree in business from HP printer university, aka a Microsoft Word template that I filled out that says I have a business degree.

Anyhoo, I think if the money is big enough, they will play ball. Now, just need to find 100 fat wallets ready to invest. Where could we maybe find a bunch of poker chip enthusiasts with fat wallets..... hmmm .... Hmmmm...

Okay, maybe I am still dreaming .... :)
 
It's a long shot, but it could happen. On the flip side, there are so many casinos in so many states now, we can have optimism that the secondary market could heat up in the future as these places go under, merge, or change out their chips. We can all reminisce and "what if" about the glory days of custom TRK's, ASM's, BCC's, and Paulsons.
 
Mike I know that GPI takes orders from card rooms if the minimums are like 12-15k+ chips. We could probably hit that demand in a morning. So profitability wise, I can't see why they wouldn't want to take on an order from us that would be double or triple that size, seeing as though they are already doing it for others.

I can only assume they got pressured by big customers to stop selling to the public, probably for security reasons.
 
mummel said:
Mike I know that GPI takes orders from card rooms if the minimums are like 12-15k+ chips. We could probably hit that demand in a morning. So profitability wise, I can't see why they wouldn't want to take on an order from us that would be double or triple that size, seeing as though they are already doing it for others.

I can only assume they got pressured by big customers to stop selling to the public, probably for security reasons.
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Okay, I think I see where you are going with this. So how do we become an "official" fantasy card room?
 
MD Mike said:
I feel like they would still sell if we keep pestering them. Like, here's a scenario:

Poker chip vendor A (I won't use real examples like say... @Apache ... ;) ) puts out a request for investors. The request is, "If you invest say $5,000 towards a group purchase, you get a 10% return on chip sales."

If you get enough investors, and bring all that money to the table, would Paulson really look away?

Now, you are probably saying, "Mike this is a lot like a company just going public and having people buy shares."

I say, "Nay. It's more like... venture capital. Where the venture capitalist assumes most of the risk."

I know all this because I got my degree in business from HP printer university, aka a Microsoft Word template that I filled out that says I have a business degree.

Anyhoo, I think if the money is big enough, they will play ball. Now, just need to find 100 fat wallets ready to invest. Where could we maybe find a bunch of poker chip enthusiasts with fat wallets..... hmmm .... Hmmmm...

Okay, maybe I am still dreaming .... :)
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This actually isn't a terrible idea. Essentially you are establishing yourself as a buyer for a "casino", with the understanding that the "casino" is a bunch of small home games. The order size would be similar to a small casino, so from a business stand point, Paulson would be dumb to look the other way. After all, it's profits they are after. That being said, the casinos are their main clientele, so they ultimately get to choose who else they can sell to. It's a catch 22, but I think it would be worth a shot. I'd invest.
 
I'm not interested in Paulson fantasy chips, but I can think of a few dead casino chips I wouldn't mind seeing them re-create.
 
upNdown said:
I'm not interested in Paulson fantasy chips, but I can think of a few dead casino chips I wouldn't mind seeing them re-create.
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That fits my definition of fantasy. In a way. I would still be on board. Whatever gets me to that goddamn buttery soft Paulson texture.
 
Yeah, I wish, but...

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MD Mike said:
That fits my definition of fantasy. In a way. I would still be on board. Whatever gets me to that goddamn buttery soft Paulson texture.
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The only issue I can see that casino's would have would be the ability to make replica's and having to police against that. With dead casino chips, I don't see the conflict. The only issue that I forsee, right now, is it would all have to be the same chip. Different denoms of course, but all of the same "casino".
 
MD Mike said:
All it takes is a phone call. A phone call, and a design, and at least 10,000 chips worth of order money.

And maybe a little convincing.

I mean, I'll do what I have to. If I gotta go gigolo on this, I will.
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We have everything we need right here. Designers, ideas, demand, dollars to burn etc. We just need a sales rep at Paulson to take our call.
 
MD Mike said:
All it takes is a phone call. A phone call, and a design, and at least 10,000 chips worth of order money.
And maybe a little convincing.
I mean, I'll do what I have to. If I gotta go gigolo on this, I will.
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When I called GPI ten years ago, the minimum was 100K chips at $1 per. However I think since then they won't do any.
 
superchromix said:
most crucially, we have time to waste spend discussing this brilliant plan :D
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That's the most important thing.

mummel said:
We have everything we need right here. Designers, ideas, demand, dollars to burn etc. We just need a sales rep at Paulson to take our call.
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Personally, I don't think a phone call is going to do it. This is a wine and dine, make a friend who is willing to help out, kind of instance. While we can convince everyone in the world, ultimately, we will need someone on their end to convince their boss that it's a good idea.
 
Skeeter said:
That's the most important thing.


Personally, I don't think a phone call is going to do it. This is a wine and dine, make a friend who is willing to help out, kind of instance. While we can convince everyone in the world, ultimately, we will need someone on their end to convince their boss that it's a good idea.
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Who is the best winer and diner we got?
 

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