Hustler Casino Live (9 Viewers)

[Anthony Martino]

FYP

What have I done???

 

[JMC9389]

or hes up $1M.

Got it in with two pair 8 5 against Dwan's set of 5's and scoops lmao.

 

[davislane]

Got it in with two pair 8 5 against Dwan's set of 5's and scoops lmao.

they chopped the 2nd board.

the hand the professor won with trips in his hand was gold. im trying to find a clip to share. perfect for TV.

 

[davislane]

the hand the professor won with trips in his hand was gold. im trying to find a clip to share. perfect for TV.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1682239316498739200

THIS IS PLO!

 

[jaystacks]

Bad Brad is such a sicko, anyone know anything about the guy?

 

[DirtyTIVA]

they chopped the 2nd board.

the hand the professor won with trips in his hand was gold. im trying to find a clip to share. perfect for TV.

THATS ME! IM THE BEST! I CANT BREATHE!

 

[bergs]

What have I done???

Running down Main Street without pants on was a problem. I saw it on teh Twitter.

 

[ChipFinderSK]

Are these fools still playing? (YouTube says it’s live)

 

[davislane]

Are these fools still playing? (YouTube says it’s live)

Its on either a 30min or 60min delay

 

[davislane]

insane bluff but those calc are hysterically incorrect.

 

[TonZaga]

Doesn't most RFID software take into account the folded cards from other players?

 

[davislane]

Doesn't most RFID software take into account the folded cards from other players?

that should make %s lower not higher

 

[LeLe]

that should make %s lower not higher

Not really, especially if most or all of the folded cards is blanks and not outs.

For example :

9 outs 36 blanks (about 20%), folded 12 card are 11 blanks 1 outs.
It become 8 outs 25 blanks (about 25%)

And since PLO have double the NLH hold cards, the difference could be even polarised like

9 outs 36 blank, folded cards 24 which is 1 out 23 blanks, it become 8 outs 13 blank (about 38%)

 

[davislane]

Not really, especially if most or all of the folded cards is blanks and not outs.

For example :

9 outs 36 blanks (about 20%), folded 12 card are 11 blanks 1 outs.
It become 8 outs 25 blanks (about 25%)

And since PLO have double the NLH hold cards, the difference could be even polarised like

9 outs 36 blank, folded cards 24 which is 1 out 23 blanks, it become 8 outs 13 blank (about 38%)

yes that is a plausible explanation except they are always wrong. in simplest terms 1 outers going to the river they always show the odds as 5% when its more like ~2.5%. when there is ONLY 1 out then everything else is a blank regardless of what has been folded.

 

[BGinGA]

They are hope peddlers.

 

[davislane]

It's Dwan and a bunch of random multi millionaire trust fund/crypto dudes. On paper, Dwan should clean up, but he's not because variance in PLO is massive.

This Brad guy is action with a captain A. He's up half a million now but I guarantee he loses it all by the end of the stream.

 

[LeLe]

yes that is a plausible explanation except they are always wrong. in simplest terms 1 outers going to the river they always show the odds as 5% when its more like ~2.5%. when there is ONLY 1 out then everything else is a blank regardless of what has been folded.

The basic 3/6 % rule for PLO does not taken into account for folded card (thus your 2.5% which is 1 out of 40, only take into account for 12 cards (4 hold card both guys and Flop + turn)

For RFID, a 7 handed table they will have extras 20 card information (5 person who are not in the hand x 4) so as long these 20 cards don’t contain the 1 outters, the outers will be 1 out of 20 which will be 5%

So it going to be nearer to 5% for one outer when they take folded card into account

 

[LeLe]

^ if you fill up all the folded card in the dead card’s column at the bottoms u will get the correct %

 

[davislane]

Not really, especially if most or all of the folded cards is blanks and not outs.

For example :

9 outs 36 blanks (about 20%), folded 12 card are 11 blanks 1 outs.
It become 8 outs 25 blanks (about 25%)

And since PLO have double the NLH hold cards, the difference could be even polarised like

9 outs 36 blank, folded cards 24 which is 1 out 23 blanks, it become 8 outs 13 blank (about 38%)

explain that one!

 

[LeLe]

explain that one!

I explain it as simple as i could previously, the main issue is that when you are counting the %; you never taken into account for dead card (folded card) like the stream is doing.

I going to ask one simple question if you have only 1 out a single SPADE of Aces and you been told by one of the guy he folded the SPADE of Ace.

Do you still think u have the 2.5% outs or are you drawing dead because dead card is not going to be in 1 of your potential 40 cards.

 

[LeLe]

explain that one!

Just doing for the fun of it, Dwan have 1 out, 8 of club

If this is a 9 handed game and 8 of club is not accounted for yet

36 hold card is accounted for, 3 on the flop is accounted for. leaving behind 13 unknown cards

2 chances (1 at turn 1 at river) 2 out of 13 = 15.38%

 

[davislane]

Just doing for the fun of it, Dwan have 1 out, 8 of club

If this is a 9 handed game and 8 of club is not accounted for yet

36 hold card is accounted for, 3 on the fold is accounted for. leaving behind 13 unknown cards

2 chances (1 at turn 1 at river) 2 out of 13 = 15.38%

that would make sense if they were 9 handed but they are only 6 handed. so using your logic the math should be 2 out of (13+(3x4))= 8%. Maybe because they run it twice? 8x2 =16% and rounding to nearest unit of 5 = 15%? lol

id love to know how they worked out 1% for airball when he has ZERO runner runner combos to win.

 

[LeLe]

that would make sense if they were 9 handed but they are only 6 handed

I went and found the time stamp @7:36:21. it is 9 handed for this hand so the maths work out

id love to know how they worked out 1% for airball when he has ZERO runner runner combos to win.

Airball need Runner Runner A to win the hand and 1 A had been fold so using the same 13 unknown card.

The maths is 2/13 (2 chance at turn) * 1/12 (1 chance at river) = 1.28%

 

[ChipFinderSK]

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Final stats?

 

[davislane]

I went and found the time stamp @7:36:21. it is 9 handed for this hand so the maths work out

Airball need Runner Runner A to win and 1 A had been fold so using the same 13 unknown card.

The maths is 2/13 (2 chance at turn) * 1/12 (1 chance at river) = 1.28%

i stand corrected. note to self. get more sleep before trying to do math against strangers on the internet. GG.

 

[davislane]

Final stats?

please dont invite airball back or mute his microphone

 

[LeLe]

i stand corrected. note to self. get more sleep before trying to do math against strangers on the internet. GG

Well, I do math and explaining calculations to people for a living so it's a daily recurring task for me.

 

[LeLe]

please dont invite airball back or mute his microphone

I wish that too but Charles and Airball is the co-game runner for the Chinese group, so Airball is not going to uninvite himself.

We can only hope he go on another 2 million downswings.

 

[davislane]

Well, I do math and explaining calculations to people for a living so it's a daily recurring task for me.

No wonder im losing in PLO atm. I'm operating using imperfect information i.e. expected value. what i really need to do is starting asking to look at all the discarded cards and make decisions with REAL TIME value.

from the point of newcomers to the game, the way hustler live displays the % to win is more for entertainment purposes rather than educational purposes. its going to create a bunch of bananas who call with one out thinking they have 15% when really they dont know. they have something between 0 and something higher than zero depending how many people are in the hand and how many discards there has been. lol.

Edit. Thank you for being patient and explaining multiple times why the numbers are clearly wrong from the perspective of learning the game but clearly correct from the perspective of entertainment and you know having real time info which a normal player would never have access to and cant really use to make decisions unless they want to make assumptions about peoples holdings and adjust their internal calcs accordingly!

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

No wonder im losing in PLO atm. I'm operating using imperfect information i.e. expected value. what i really need to do is starting asking to look at all the discarded cards and make decisions with REAL TIME value.

from the point of newcomers to the game the way hustler live displays the % to win is more for entertainment purposes rather than educational purposes. its going to create a bunch of bananas who call with one out thinking they have 15% when really then dont know. they have something between 0 and something depending how many people are in the hand and how mand discards there has been. lol

Had friends who watched a bunch of the creator stream and had this conversation: don't learn a THING from this other than gambling is fun lol and basic betting round structure.