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Indy 500 Contest (2 Viewers)

I think we still need a picking order for Group 2, @BGinGA . If you can get that to us, maybe Mike, @dbertheau and myself can pick teams separately in a PM, just so it's not too convoluted here.
 
to make it a bit easier...copied stuff to this post
indy grid.JPG

Draft order:
#1 - @ChaosRock = Alexander Rossi (9)
#2 - @David O = Will Power (6)
#3 - @BGinGA = Simon Pagenaud (1)
#4 - @slisk250 = Helio Castroneves (12)
#5 - @Chippy McChiperson = Josef Newgarden (8)
#6 - @bsdunbar1 = Scott Dixon (18)
#7 - @bsdunbar1 = Ryan Hunter Reay (22)
#8 - @Chippy McChiperson = Ed Carpenter (2)
#9 - @slisk250 = Colton Herta (5)
#10 - @BGinGA = Spencer Pigot (3)
#11 - @David O =
#12 - @ChaosRock =
#13 - @ChaosRock =
#14 - @David O =
#15 - @BGinGA =
#16 - @slisk250 =
#17 - @Chippy McChiperson =
#18 - @bsdunbar1 =
#19 - @bsdunbar1 =
#20 - @Chippy McChiperson =
#21 - @slisk250 =
#22 - @BGinGA =
#23 - @David O =
#24 - @ChaosRock =
#25 - @ChaosRock =
#26 - @David O =
#27 - @BGinGA =
#28 - @slisk250 =
#29 - @Chippy McChiperson =
#30 - @bsdunbar1 =
Three drivers not chosen =
@BGinGA
 
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...and this is why Fernando will never again enter the Indy 500 in a McLaren.

This is the most stunning example of incompetence in racing.

 
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While I like the new qualifying rules, in hindsight they did have an effect on the outcome. In the past it was always the fastest 33 cars. If there were a slow qualifier higher up in the field, they would be bumped. I think I'd like to see them lock nobody and go to a full bump schedule AFTER fast 9 run.

In this case Pippa Mann would have been bumped as McLaren had a faster bump day speed....but I like Pippa a bunch, she will do well again and stay out of trouble. She always starts in the back so knows what is up.

Hinchcliffe will get collected in an early incident if he is not patient. You heard it here first.
 
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In other news we are midway through the game 2 draft (done in PM)

Here is where we are there after 16 pics

Paulo - Newgarden, Rossi, Carpenter, Hunter-Reay, Herta
dberteau - Pagenaud, Dixon, Hinchcliffe, Kanaan, Sato
slisk - Power, Castroneves, Jones, Pigot, Ericsson, Andretti
 
1. 22 Simon Pagenaud, Montmorillon, France, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:36.5271, 229.992
2. 20 Ed Carpenter, Indianapolis, Indiana, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet, 02:36.5971, 229.889
3. 21 Spencer Pigot, Orlando, Florida, Ed Carpenter Racing, 02:36.6402, 229.826
4. 63 Ed Jones Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet, 02:36.7629, 229.646
5. 88 Colton Herta (R), Valencia, California, Harding Steinbrenner Racing, Honda, 02:37.1465, 229.086
6. 12 Will Power (W), Toowoomba, Australia, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.4490, 228.645
7. 18 Sebastien Bourdais, Le Mans, France, Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser-Sullivan, Honda, 02:37.4659, 228.621
8. 2 Josef Newgarden, Nashville, Tennessee, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.6208, 228.396
9. 27 Alexander Rossi (W), Nevada City, California, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:37.7240, 228.247
10. 98 Marco Andretti, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, Andretti Herta with Marco & Curb-Agajanian, Honda, 02:37.3729, 228.756
11. 25 Conor Daly, Noblesville, Indiana, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:37.4688, 228.617
12. 3 Helio Castroneves (W), Sao Paulo, Brazil, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.5337, 228.523
13. 7 Marcus Ericsson (R), Kumla, Sweden, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda, 02:37.5415, 228.511
14. 30 Takuma Sato (W), Tokyo, Japan, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda, 02:37.6874, 228.300
15. 33 James Davison, Melbourne, Australia, Dale Coyne Racing with Byrd and Belardi, Honda, 02:37.7057, 228.273
16. 14 Tony Kanaan (W), Salvador, Brazil, A.J. Foyt Enterprises, Chevrolet, 02:37.8116, 228.120
17. 15 Graham Rahal, New Albany, Ohio, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda, 02:37.8226, 228.104
18. 9 Scott Dixon (W), Auckland, New Zealand, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda, 02:37.8256, 228.100
19. 77 Oriol Servia, Pals, Spain, Team Stange w/ Arrow SPM, Honda, 02:37.9009, 227.991
20. 23 Charlie Kimball, Camarillo, California, Carlin, Chevrolet, 02:37.9535, 227.915
21. 48 JR Hildebrand, Sausalito, California, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, Chevrolet, 02:37.9584, 227.908
22. 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay (W), Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:37.9799, 227.877
23. 19 Santino Ferrucci (R), Woodbury, Connecticut, Dale Coyne Racing, Honda, 02:38.0815, 227.731
24. 4 Matheus Leist, Novo Hamburgo, Brazil, A.J. Foyt Enterprises, Chevrolet, 02:38.0911, 227.717
25. 60 Jack Harvey, Bassingham, England, Meyer Shank Racing, Honda, 02:38.1063, 227.695
26. 42 Jordan King (R), Warwick, England, Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda, 02:38.2402, 227.502
27. 81 Ben Hanley (R), Manchester, England, DragonSpeed, Chevrolet, 02:38.2542, 227.482
28. 26 Zach Veach, Stockdale, Ohio, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:38.3523, 227.341
29. 10 Felix Rosenqvist (R), Värnamo, Sweden, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda, 02:38.3834, 227.297
30. 39 Pippa Mann, Ipswich, England, Clauson-Marshall Racing, Chevrolet, 02:38.4203, 227.244
31. 24 Sage Karam, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, Chevrolet, 02:38.0747, 227.740
32. 5 James Hinchcliffe, Toronto, Canada, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda, 02:38.2118, 227.543
33. 32 Kyle Kaiser, Santa Clara, California, Juncos Racing, Chevrolet, 02:38.3311, 227.372
 
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ChaosRock:

9. 27 Alexander Rossi (W), Nevada City, California, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:37.7240, 228.247

DavidO:

6. 12 Will Power (W), Toowoomba, Australia, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.4490, 228.645

BGinGA:

1. 22 Simon Pagenaud, Montmorillon, France, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:36.5271, 229.992
3. 21 Spencer Pigot, Orlando, Florida, Ed Carpenter Racing, 02:36.6402, 229.826

slisk250:

12. 3 Helio Castroneves (W), Sao Paulo, Brazil, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.5337, 228.523
5. 88 Colton Herta (R), Valencia, California, Harding Steinbrenner Racing, Honda, 02:37.1465, 229.086

Chippy McChipperson:

8. 2 Josef Newgarden, Nashville, Tennessee, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.6208, 228.396
2. 20 Ed Carpenter, Indianapolis, Indiana, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet, 02:36.5971, 229.889

bsdunbar1:

18. 9 Scott Dixon (W), Auckland, New Zealand, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda, 02:37.8256, 228.100
22. 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay (W), Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:37.9799, 227.877
 
slisk250 said:
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...and this is why Fernando will never again enter the Indy 500 in a McLaren.

This is the most stunning example of incompetence in racing.

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Embarrassing!

What surprises me is that Alonzo, even after the debacle with McLaren the last few years he drove for the team on F1, still comes to Indy with them! WTF, Fernando? Was it about money? It seems to me it was. I'm a HUGE Alonzo fan and up to now I thought he was the unluckiest driver ever as far as picking teams is concerned. Now I think I'm on the camp he wanted the money. Why would he stay with McLaren for Indy? For a promise they would be competitive? After being promised the same thing in F1 for years? It absolutely sucks, man.

And honestly, I think the Indy500 looses a bit without Fernando driving the race. Yes, for fans like us, it doesn't matter. But there's a lot of non-Americans, fans of F1, that would be watching the 500 because of him. Lost opportunity. Not sure what the IndyCar could have done to avoid this. Maybe nothing, idk...
 
ChaosRock said:
Embarrassing!

What surprises me is that Alonzo, even after the debacle with McLaren the last few years he drove for the team on F1, still comes to Indy with them! WTF, Fernando? Was it about money? It seems to me it was. I'm a HUGE Alonzo fan and up to now I thought he was the unluckiest driver ever as far as picking teams is concerned. Now I think I'm on the camp he wanted the money. Why would he stay with McLaren for Indy? For a promise they would be competitive? After being promised the same thing in F1 for years? It absolutely sucks, man.

And honestly, I think the Indy500 looses a bit without Fernando driving the race. Yes, for fans like us, it doesn't matter. But there's a lot of non-Americans, fans of F1, that would be watching the 500 because of him. Lost opportunity. Not sure what the IndyCar could have done to avoid this. Maybe nothing, idk...
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I hope Fernando goes talking to Andretti or Roger or Chip.
 
slisk250 said:
I hope Fernando goes talking to Andretti or Roger or Chip.
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Absolutely! I think IndyRacing should actually push for it, from an international's market expansion perspective. maybe Fernando should even drive a full season. He's done with F1 for sure. None of the top teams will hire him. So what's left? Sports? He should come to the US, imo.
 
maybe if Simon wrecks every car he drives for the rest of the season Roger will send him packing...opening up a very fast seat. One can dream.

..but if that happened and I was Roger I'd want Colton Herta. He is the next Indy Star. You told me that Rossi was no fluke even though he won indy on a fuel run. You were right about your favorite driver.
 
So we are done with the Group 2 Draft. For transparency sake, since now I know Mike's preferences and he knows mine, here are the teams:

dbertheau:

1. 22 Simon Pagenaud, Montmorillon, France, Team Penske, Chevrolet
18. 9 Scott Dixon (W), Auckland, New Zealand, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda
32. 5 James Hinchcliffe, Toronto, Canada, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda
16. 14 Tony Kanaan (W), Salvador, Brazil, A.J. Foyt Enterprises, Chevrolet
14. 30 Takuma Sato (W), Tokyo, Japan, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda
20. 23 Charlie Kimball, Camarillo, California, Carlin, Chevrolet
17. 15 Graham Rahal, New Albany, Ohio, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda
21. 48 JR Hildebrand, Sausalito, California, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, Chevrolet
24. 4 Matheus Leist, Novo Hamburgo, Brazil, A.J. Foyt Enterprises, Chevrolet
25. 60 Jack Harvey, Bassingham, England, Meyer Shank Racing, Honda
26. 42 Jordan King (R), Warwick, England, Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda

ChaosRock:

8. 2 Josef Newgarden, Nashville, Tennessee, Team Penske, Chevrolet
9. 27 Alexander Rossi (W), Nevada City, California, Andretti Autosport, Honda
2. 20 Ed Carpenter, Indianapolis, Indiana, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet
22. 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay (W), Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Andretti Autosport, Honda
5. 88 Colton Herta (R), Valencia, California, Harding Steinbrenner Racing, Honda
7. 18 Sebastien Bourdais, Le Mans, France, Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser-Sullivan, Honda
29. 10 Felix Rosenqvist (R), Värnamo, Sweden, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda
28. 26 Zach Veach, Stockdale, Ohio, Andretti Autosport, Honda
23. 19 Santino Ferrucci (R), Woodbury, Connecticut, Dale Coyne Racing, Honda
15. 33 James Davison, Melbourne, Australia, Dale Coyne Racing with Byrd and Belardi, Honda
27. 81 Ben Hanley (R), Manchester, England, DragonSpeed, Chevrolet

slisk250:

6. 12 Will Power (W), Toowoomba, Australia, Team Penske, Chevrolet
12. 3 Helio Castroneves (W), Sao Paulo, Brazil, Team Penske, Chevrolet
4. 63 Ed Jones Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet
3. 21 Spencer Pigot, Orlando, Florida, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet
13. 7 Marcus Ericsson (R), Kumla, Sweden, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda
10. 98 Marco Andretti, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, Andretti Herta with Marco & Curb-Agajanian, Honda
11. 25 Conor Daly, Noblesville, Indiana, Andretti Autosport, Honda
19. 77 Oriol Servia, Pals, Spain, Team Stange w/ Arrow SPM, Honda
30. 39 Pippa Mann, Ipswich, England, Clauson-Marshall Racing, Chevrolet
31. 24 Sage Karam, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, Chevrolet
33. 32 Kyle Kaiser, Santa Clara, California, Juncos Racing, Chevrolet
 
Ed Jones and Takuma Sato. Back to @David O

1. 22 Simon Pagenaud, Montmorillon, France, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:36.5271, 229.992
2. 20 Ed Carpenter, Indianapolis, Indiana, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet, 02:36.5971, 229.889
3. 21 Spencer Pigot, Orlando, Florida, Ed Carpenter Racing, 02:36.6402, 229.826
4. 63 Ed Jones Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet, 02:36.7629, 229.646
5. 88 Colton Herta (R), Valencia, California, Harding Steinbrenner Racing, Honda, 02:37.1465, 229.086
6. 12 Will Power (W), Toowoomba, Australia, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.4490, 228.645
7. 18 Sebastien Bourdais, Le Mans, France, Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser-Sullivan, Honda, 02:37.4659, 228.621
8. 2 Josef Newgarden, Nashville, Tennessee, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.6208, 228.396
9. 27 Alexander Rossi (W), Nevada City, California, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:37.7240, 228.247
10. 98 Marco Andretti, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, Andretti Herta with Marco & Curb-Agajanian, Honda, 02:37.3729, 228.756
11. 25 Conor Daly, Noblesville, Indiana, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:37.4688, 228.617
12. 3 Helio Castroneves (W), Sao Paulo, Brazil, Team Penske, Chevrolet, 02:37.5337, 228.523
13. 7 Marcus Ericsson (R), Kumla, Sweden, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda, 02:37.5415, 228.511
14. 30 Takuma Sato (W), Tokyo, Japan, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda, 02:37.6874, 228.300
15. 33 James Davison, Melbourne, Australia, Dale Coyne Racing with Byrd and Belardi, Honda, 02:37.7057, 228.273
16. 14 Tony Kanaan (W), Salvador, Brazil, A.J. Foyt Enterprises, Chevrolet, 02:37.8116, 228.120
17. 15 Graham Rahal, New Albany, Ohio, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda, 02:37.8226, 228.104
18. 9 Scott Dixon (W), Auckland, New Zealand, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda, 02:37.8256, 228.100
19. 77 Oriol Servia, Pals, Spain, Team Stange w/ Arrow SPM, Honda, 02:37.9009, 227.991
20. 23 Charlie Kimball, Camarillo, California, Carlin, Chevrolet, 02:37.9535, 227.915
21. 48 JR Hildebrand, Sausalito, California, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, Chevrolet, 02:37.9584, 227.908
22. 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay (W), Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:37.9799, 227.877
23. 19 Santino Ferrucci (R), Woodbury, Connecticut, Dale Coyne Racing, Honda, 02:38.0815, 227.731
24. 4 Matheus Leist, Novo Hamburgo, Brazil, A.J. Foyt Enterprises, Chevrolet, 02:38.0911, 227.717
25. 60 Jack Harvey, Bassingham, England, Meyer Shank Racing, Honda, 02:38.1063, 227.695
26. 42 Jordan King (R), Warwick, England, Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda, 02:38.2402, 227.502
27. 81 Ben Hanley (R), Manchester, England, DragonSpeed, Chevrolet, 02:38.2542, 227.482
28. 26 Zach Veach, Stockdale, Ohio, Andretti Autosport, Honda, 02:38.3523, 227.341
29. 10 Felix Rosenqvist (R), Värnamo, Sweden, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda, 02:38.3834, 227.297
30. 39 Pippa Mann, Ipswich, England, Clauson-Marshall Racing, Chevrolet, 02:38.4203, 227.244
31. 24 Sage Karam, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, Chevrolet, 02:38.0747, 227.740
32. 5 James Hinchcliffe, Toronto, Canada, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda, 02:38.2118, 227.543
33. 32 Kyle Kaiser, Santa Clara, California, Juncos Racing, Chevrolet, 02:38.3311, 227.372

ChaosRock:

9. 27 Alexander Rossi (W), Nevada City, California, Andretti Autosport, Honda
4. 63 Ed Jones Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet
14. 30 Takuma Sato (W), Tokyo, Japan, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda

DavidO:

6. 12 Will Power (W), Toowoomba, Australia, Team Penske, Chevrolet
32. 5 James Hinchcliffe, Toronto, Canada, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda

BGinGA:

1. 22 Simon Pagenaud, Montmorillon, France, Team Penske, Chevrolet
3. 21 Spencer Pigot, Orlando, Florida, Ed Carpenter Racing

slisk250:

12. 3 Helio Castroneves (W), Sao Paulo, Brazil, Team Penske, Chevrolet
5. 88 Colton Herta (R), Valencia, California, Harding Steinbrenner Racing, Honda

Chippy McChipperson:

8. 2 Josef Newgarden, Nashville, Tennessee, Team Penske, Chevrolet
2. 20 Ed Carpenter, Indianapolis, Indiana, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet

bsdunbar1:

18. 9 Scott Dixon (W), Auckland, New Zealand, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda
22. 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay (W), Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Andretti Autosport, Honda
 
ChaosRock said:
So we are done with the Group 2 Draft. For transparency sake, since now I know Mike's preferences and he knows mine, here are the teams:

dbertheau:

1. 22 Simon Pagenaud, Montmorillon, France, Team Penske, Chevrolet
18. 9 Scott Dixon (W), Auckland, New Zealand, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda
32. 5 James Hinchcliffe, Toronto, Canada, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda
16. 14 Tony Kanaan (W), Salvador, Brazil, A.J. Foyt Enterprises, Chevrolet
14. 30 Takuma Sato (W), Tokyo, Japan, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda
20. 23 Charlie Kimball, Camarillo, California, Carlin, Chevrolet
17. 15 Graham Rahal, New Albany, Ohio, Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda
21. 48 JR Hildebrand, Sausalito, California, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, Chevrolet
24. 4 Matheus Leist, Novo Hamburgo, Brazil, A.J. Foyt Enterprises, Chevrolet
25. 60 Jack Harvey, Bassingham, England, Meyer Shank Racing, Honda
26. 42 Jordan King (R), Warwick, England, Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing, Honda

ChaosRock:

8. 2 Josef Newgarden, Nashville, Tennessee, Team Penske, Chevrolet
9. 27 Alexander Rossi (W), Nevada City, California, Andretti Autosport, Honda
2. 20 Ed Carpenter, Indianapolis, Indiana, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet
22. 28 Ryan Hunter-Reay (W), Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Andretti Autosport, Honda
5. 88 Colton Herta (R), Valencia, California, Harding Steinbrenner Racing, Honda
7. 18 Sebastien Bourdais, Le Mans, France, Dale Coyne Racing with Vasser-Sullivan, Honda
29. 10 Felix Rosenqvist (R), Värnamo, Sweden, Chip Ganassi Racing, Honda
28. 26 Zach Veach, Stockdale, Ohio, Andretti Autosport, Honda
23. 19 Santino Ferrucci (R), Woodbury, Connecticut, Dale Coyne Racing, Honda
15. 33 James Davison, Melbourne, Australia, Dale Coyne Racing with Byrd and Belardi, Honda
27. 81 Ben Hanley (R), Manchester, England, DragonSpeed, Chevrolet

slisk250:

6. 12 Will Power (W), Toowoomba, Australia, Team Penske, Chevrolet
12. 3 Helio Castroneves (W), Sao Paulo, Brazil, Team Penske, Chevrolet
4. 63 Ed Jones Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet
3. 21 Spencer Pigot, Orlando, Florida, Ed Carpenter Racing, Chevrolet
13. 7 Marcus Ericsson (R), Kumla, Sweden, Arrow Schmidt Peterson Motorsports, Honda
10. 98 Marco Andretti, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, Andretti Herta with Marco & Curb-Agajanian, Honda
11. 25 Conor Daly, Noblesville, Indiana, Andretti Autosport, Honda
19. 77 Oriol Servia, Pals, Spain, Team Stange w/ Arrow SPM, Honda
30. 39 Pippa Mann, Ipswich, England, Clauson-Marshall Racing, Chevrolet
31. 24 Sage Karam, Nazareth, Pennsylvania, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing, Chevrolet
33. 32 Kyle Kaiser, Santa Clara, California, Juncos Racing, Chevrolet
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This is the best team I've drafted in a long time. Unbeatable...2 Penskes, 2 Carpenters, 2 Andrettis, a solid rookie, and the hottest chick on the grid. I'll pm my PP info in a minute guys. Sage and Kaiser will both move up, they have better than last row cars.
 

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