Is there a "don't oil your chips" school of thought? (1 Viewer)

Invite him to your game. Those Milano chips will be good for several years.

I dont know BG. I'm pretty paranoid about fluids dropping onto my speed cloth. You should have seen the commotion when some condensation ran down from a beer bottle and landed on the table.
 
The oil bleeds over enough into the faces of the chips. The key is hosting the following weekend with the new chips and hoping your players can shuffle the chips.
Be careful. You can ruin vintage chips if you don't oil with caution.

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Absolutely!!! Here are my barrels for experimenting with oil, washing and CRAZY shuffling to see how Paulson and ASM/CPC perform. I think with normal or even aggressive use of the set, your new chips will NEVER reach the same level of wear. Especially with CPC. All the oil does is refract the light towards your eyes (I won't go into details) and just show how bright they really are. Paulson and CPC (as well as TRK and BCC, which even had just paper and non-laminated inserts) have completely different inlay designs. For Paulson, oil baths are not so scary. Oil does not leak under the label. Or they use some special type of plastic on which they print the image. Therefore, they do not change their color over time. ASM/CPC themselves are much more wear-resistant than Paulson. But, not so bright from the factory. And they are greatly helped by simply wiping the front with a soft brush and a little oil on the edge. The front does not need to be lubricated. Only the edge. But only minimally. If you want it at all. And now a few photos.
All the inlays turned yellow
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Oil and water residue...
I washed and lubricated them probably 20 times, if not more.
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Paulson is fine. Except for the wear. But the color transfer is killing me.
If you like clean chips, then you shouldn't shuffle them. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
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But, even without the oil, they ALL get brighter when you just use them. It's FANTASTIC!
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Paulson is fine. Except for the wear. But the color transfer is killing me.
If you like clean chips, then you shouldn't shuffle them.
I did an experiment one time that suggested that oiled Paulsons showed more color transfer than un-oiled. This was nothing conclusive that I’d try to publish in a journal, but those were the results that I saw.
 
I did an experiment one time that suggested that oiled Paulsons showed more color transfer than un-oiled. This was nothing conclusive that I’d try to publish in a journal, but those were the results that I saw.
That's a fact. You're 100% right. I noticed that too. Oil, crosshatching and shuffle will make them look as dirty as a casino in 15 minutes. But even without oil, you'll be done in 20 minutes with this task. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: :wtf: ;)
 
Absolutely!!! Here are my barrels for experimenting with oil, washing and CRAZY shuffling to see how Paulson and ASM/CPC perform. I think with normal or even aggressive use of the set, your new chips will NEVER reach the same level of wear. Especially with CPC. All the oil does is refract the light towards your eyes (I won't go into details) and just show how bright they really are.

I'm more curious about what the heck going on with the texture of the edgespots and outer two rims:

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It appears in both of these pairs that the edgespots have zero texture on one chip and not the other, on the chips with the yellowed label.

Ditto the two outer rings of the chip.

What is going on here? Did the oil bath somehow erase the clay texture, but only in these areas? (Doesn't seem possible.) Or are these chips from two different pressings?

IDGI
 
I'm more curious about what the heck going on with the texture of the edgespots and outer two rims:

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It appears in both of these pairs that the edgespots have zero texture on one chip and not the other, on the chips with the yellowed label.

Ditto the two outer rings of the chip.

What is going on here? Did the oil bath somehow erase the clay texture, but only in these areas? (Doesn't seem possible.) Or are these chips from two different pressings?

IDGI
Cool catch. I’m thinking that has to be two different molds.
 
I'm more curious about what the heck going on with the texture of the edgespots and outer two rims:

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It appears in both of these pairs that the edgespots have zero texture on one chip and not the other, on the chips with the yellowed label.

Ditto the two outer rings of the chip.

What is going on here? Did the oil bath somehow erase the clay texture, but only in these areas? (Doesn't seem possible.) Or are these chips from two different pressings?

IDGI
What the hell?!?
 
I'm more curious about what the heck going on with the texture of the edgespots and outer two rims:

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It appears in both of these pairs that the edgespots have zero texture on one chip and not the other, on the chips with the yellowed label.

Ditto the two outer rings of the chip.

What is going on here? Did the oil bath somehow erase the clay texture, but only in these areas? (Doesn't seem possible.) Or are these chips from two different pressings?

IDGI
Cool catch. I’m thinking that has to be two different molds.
What the hell?!?
My understanding was that the pics were comparing mint condition chips with those that were heavily oiled and shuffled.

Crosshatching no longer visible on the shuffled chips.
 
My understanding was that the pics were comparing mint condition chips with those that were heavily oiled and shuffled.

If so, it would be more instructive to compare used chips that were heavily oiled and shuffled to similarly used chips which were shuffled but not heavily oiled.
 
-All plastics, either trash or high-end, and "ceramics" DO NOT need any oil.
-"China Clays", although basically plastic, could benefit from some oil, temporarily.
-Mint Paulsons don't need any oil.
-Heavily Used and seriously cleaned Paulsons DO NEED some oil.
-All mint CPCs need a lukewarm shower to get rid of the factory dust, and, after they're dry, they DO NEED some oil.

Oiling means:
Just HALF (maximum) a teaspoon of "mineral oil" (US terminology; in European Pharmacies you ask for paraffin oil against constipation, raising some eyebrows) onto a clean shoe-shining sponge, to oil the sides of 5 barrels (100 chips).

Then, you wipe off the extra oil from the sides of the barrels, with a soft micro-fiber cloth.

If anally retended and hence a perfectionist, you can carry on with wiping the perimeters of the chips' faces with the now slightly oiled cloth, avoiding the inlays.

Good luck.
 
All mint CPCs need a lukewarm shower to get rid of the factory dust, and, after they're dry, they DO NEED some oil.
Any cons with avoiding the rinse and just going straight ahead with oiling mint CPCs?
 
Any cons with avoiding the rinse and just going straight ahead with oiling mint CPCs?
I did not rinse my CPCs before oiling. The results were phenomenal.

I have rinsed China Clay, and oiled them without the rinse with identical results.
 
I 'd be afraid about the soft cloth gathering dust / dirt if oiling without showering first.
Edit: Unless you have an unlimited supply of soft clothes.
 
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I 'd be afraid about the soft cloth gathering dust / dirt if oiling without showering first.
Edit: Unless you have an unlimited supply of soft clothes.
My set was over 1000 chips (1100 with samples, though I do not recall if I oiled the samples). I only used 1 rag and 1 towel. The rag to wipe the oil on, and the towel (dish towel size) to wipe it off. Today, I use just one rag, but I was new to oiling when my CPCs arrived and used a little too much oil on the first rack or so.

I do wonder where the dust went. It is dust from chips, so maybe it looks spectacular too.
 
I 'd be afraid about the soft cloth gathering dust / dirt if oiling without showering first.
Edit: Unless you have an unlimited supply of soft clothes.
I mean, I just washed the soft cloth after I was done and good as new
 
It all depends on a person maybe, and what we are willing to accept.

I oil all my CPCs. A couple of drops for 400-500 chips. Goes a long way, but I like them like that.

I also find certain Paulson hot stamps come with some sort of factory stain, like leftover from some sort of rinsing process.

See….
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But a couple drops of oil, and then you can have this…
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To each their own. I oil based on what I see and what I like to present.

End of the day, it’s a preference. We don’t need to be oiling any of these silly discs, but some of us do anyway, even debate it.
 
I Appreciate this thread. I’ve gravitated more into the no-oiling camp over the years. For my CPCs and others, oil that comes from fingertips seems to work fine if you get them into play regularly.

But I also think oiling is a good idea after ultrasonic cleaning, but that’s not a process I use
 
Personally, having experience of using oil for used Paulson and CPC before.

CPC do require and does benefit a lot from light Oiling, and they will last 6-9 months after that.

As for Paulson, I in the camp of no oiling. Used Paulson do get brighten up after oiling but I realise they get dirty sticky too easy after that too. Too much Maintenace work for me
 

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