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I thought about simply posting a photo of this board on the outset (forgoing the strat aspect), which should tell you that it was already photo worthy. However, I would actually be interested in finding out if people might have taken a different line with this hand...

Playing $.25/.50 NL, currently 8 handed late in the 8 hour session. There's more than the usual "limped" pots tonight (a tad soft), but if someone makes a reasonable bet, there's plenty of people who will call. Opening bets have been varied from $1.25 to $3.50 for bigger hands. a few occasions the betting has opened up in the $8-$10, but this was rare. I've had nights where nobody opens for anything less than $5, but tonight is different for whatever reason.

OK, cast of characters/action:

Button: New player (not a lot of experience playing against this guy). He's been up and down, and is into the game for $100. His stack is currently $100. He's semi-agro, but has been getting all the monster hands (boat over boat, boat over nut flush, flopped quads over boat, just crazy. The fact he's not in possession of ALL the chips leads me to believe he has a few leaks, despite being a decent player. I don't think he's a very cerebral player, and just goes on instinct and has gotten extremely lucky on getting the upper end of a ton of coolers.

UTG: Old Nit Charlie: Somewhat nitty, but solid regular player to my game. Usually has it when he bets. He's played a lot, and usually does well. Plays TAG for the most part, but is capable of mixing it up some. He's currently sitting on $100 on his second buyin (in for $100). ONC is UTG and limps for $.50.

Limps around to hero:

Hero: Loose table image, sitting on $150 on a $40 bi. Hero was up big, but experienced several hours of card dead and was close to even 20 mins ago. Hero is now on a mini-heater picking up crazy monster hands. The last five hands have been all top tier starting hands, so hero is opening, and I'm hoping people aren't going to give hero credit for having monsters. Hero is in the LP and looks down at :kc::kh:. Around 5 limpers in the hand so far, B, sB and bB yet to take any action.

Hero bets $4.00, button and ONC calls (~$14-15 in the pot).

Flop comes :as::kd::ah:

ONC checks, Hero is betting, but how much?
 
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I bet $6.75.

five limpers for $2.50 plus $0.75 blinds plus Hero's $0.50 ----$3.75 vs Hero's $6.25 raise. OK so it is an over bet but a couple of people will call.

DrStrange
 
The fact that you bring up the fact that Button has been cooling people off tells me that something is awry in this hand, but we don't know that yet. I like a bet in the $7 range. Given the action, it's SUPER unlikely that anyone has AK, so I'm not even worried about it. Lots of worse hand will call, but a lot of worse hands can catch up as well.

This hand is worrying me already. o_O
 
Given the action, it's SUPER unlikely that anyone has AK, so I'm not even worried about it.

I was of the same mindset. I pretty sure AA and AK are not in the realm of possibilities here. Hero has essentially flopped the nutz, but you're right, there's always a chance someone might catch up. Hero bets $7, and both button and ONC call.... ~$34 in the pot.

Due to the calls, and fact neither of them can have pocket kings, the only thing that makes sense is they both have Ax. I absolutely rule out AA at this point (not that I ever thought it was likely).

Turn is :tc:

ONC Checks, action is on hero, how much does he bet?
 
Flop bet is way too small. Most villains have nothing and will fold to any bet. The villains with an ace aren't folding, so bet closer to the pot not half.

Hero's under full house looks sexy but 1) villains have a reasonable chance to catch up and 2) when villains make aces full it can be damned hard to separate AQ from aces full. Hero has a RIO problem vs the unpredictable villain and less so vs the calling stations.

DrStrange
 
I think there is more in the pot on the flop than you realize. Blinds .75, 5 limpers*.50, You raise $4, Button calls $4, one of the limpers calls for $3.50 more. That would be .75 +2.5 +4 +4 +3.5 = $14.75.

I usually like to be about 2/3-3/4 pot, so generally I'd make it $10 or $11 post flop. This is a very unique flop, in which someone either has an Ace and will call a bigger bet, or does not and wil fold to almost any bet. With all this in mind, I raise a little higher, closer to a pot size bet so I can try and get all the moneeez. Maybe $13 or $14.
 
This is a very unique flop, in which someone either has an Ace and will call a bigger bet, or does not and wil fold to almost any bet.

Hero's range is wide here (or I'd argue the table might believe so)... Remember, the hero has been on a crazy heater, getting solid, big hands that have rarely gotten to showdown. So the table sees hero as being hyper agro the last 8-10 hands. The pre-flop bet suggests a hand (or maybe a late position steal). Given hero has a hand, the range the table might put me on is wide. Let's say hero raised pre-with 10-10, I think hero is still c-betting this flop, perfect opportunity to rep an Ace IMHO and take down the pot. Someone with JJ or QQ or the last K might come along given the right bet.

I agree, that an opponent with an Ace has the opportunity to catch up, and will rarely fold IMHO given the stakes we're playing. Betting them off an ace is probably not gonna happen.

I think the line taken as is was certainly debatable. I think the logic (flawed or not) was to price in some folks with weaker holdings (and possibly allow them to improve their hands or pot commit themselves), and also for pot control for the only hands (Ax) that could catch up.
 
Well since there's no input on the Turn, I'll move on:

ONC checks, and I lead out for $12 on the turn. Button calls, and ONC calls. Yup, they both have aces...

The River is :2d: (@links_slayer is a boss for calling the river deuce).

ONC leads out for $10.

This bet seems highly suspect to me. I don't think ONC has a hand, other than an ace. Just my live read. But I get the impression ONC might think his Ace is good? Spoiler alert, it's not.


Now what?
 
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Alas, for whatever, reason (be it 2am sleepiness, blind to how pretty my flopped boat looks, who knows), our hero decides he is way ahead of ONC, and fires a raise to $30, which gets called by the button. ONC folds, but shows A6o, and Button shows A10..

Yup... Wasn't happy with how I played the hand, but overall, I think it could have been worse. Even if I would have shoved the flop, there's no way the button is folding IMHO. I would have lost way more. I think my main mistake was firing the extra $20 into the button on the river. Not sure how I would have responded if I just called the $10 bet, and the button shoves? It was mentioned, that AQ might look very strong (if that's what the button was holding), and could see the button jamming with AQ, would I muck my boat? Dunno.
 
Weird that button did not reraise your $30. Perhaps the $10 bet from ONC saved you from a reraise, as he wanted ONC to call your $30 as well. If you were heads up he would have reraised you for sure
 

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