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Matsui chips? (1 Viewer)
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SonRK
Sitting Out
I wanted to get a set of custom Matsui's because I love the feel of the Borgata's chips. I know they use Bud Jones, but I was told Matsuis are similar.
These are my current custom Ceramics:
http://imgur.com/a/pU3Ld
To put a different design (to mimic the different characters of my current set) on each chip denomination would be $275 x4 right?
That seems like it would be very expensive. Damn
-edit- Does anyone have access to a Matsui sample set they can sell me? I can't post in the marketplace because I don't have 10 posts
These are my current custom Ceramics:
http://imgur.com/a/pU3Ld
To put a different design (to mimic the different characters of my current set) on each chip denomination would be $275 x4 right?
That seems like it would be very expensive. Damn
-edit- Does anyone have access to a Matsui sample set they can sell me? I can't post in the marketplace because I don't have 10 posts
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Whoever told you that flat-out lied, or spoke from ignorance.
Matsui chips are gorgeous. They are also among the slickest chips known to man, to the point of being totally frustrating and nearly unusable during actual play at the poker table. Exploding barrels (or even partial barrels) are the norm. A healthy sneeze will easily topple a stack. I love how they look. I HATE how they play.
Bud Jones V7 chips (like Borgata) stack pretty well for plastic chips, with a 'vacuum' effect that helps keep them in place when stacked (although that 'feature' alone puts off some people). The S2 chips are much slicker.
SonRK
Sitting Out
It must be from ignorance. I try to head down to the Borgata twice a month to get some 2/5NL action in. The 'vacuum' effect is something I love. That and people going like "There's magnets inside them!, look I took out the sticker, you can see the magnet"
I love the careful way you need to shuffle the Borgata chips. They're definitely not easy shuffle. But I love how they're slippery (I see people carelessly topple stacks around), and the sound that the chips make when hitting each other (different from clay/ceramics)
So, BGinGA, in your opinion, if I was trying to get a similar feel to the Bud Jones V7, then there is no actual good substitute?
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
I think RT plastics come pretty close on sound and feel, but they lack the 'vacuum' effect.
SonRK
Sitting Out
I did a quick search online and I can't seem to find RT Plastic's main website. Well I did find one, but it's a 404 now.
RT Plastics is no longer producing chips, but there are a lot of them in the wild (both casino and home-market versions). And I'd say they are pretty close to BJ chips, somewhere between the S2 and V7 lines. Certainly closer than Matsui, imo.
Some BJ info added to the resource section.
http://www.pokerchipforum.com/resources/gpi-bud-jones-color-charts.38/
More to come later.
http://www.pokerchipforum.com/resources/gpi-bud-jones-color-charts.38/
More to come later.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
Jim @TheChipRoom just had a sale on these. He may still have some left over. He doesn't maintain a regular website anymore, because... well we're all his customers. PM him if he doesn't get back right away, or check out the Ambassador Puerto Rico sale
jeff123
Pair
Matsuis are very high quality looking but like other posters have mentioned the feel is way too slippery when stacked. Matsui should work on a different mold that stacks better.
Robert P
Pair
Did this have to be different artwork for each color chip? Seems pricey??
Pinball
Full House
Pinball
Full House
Zippity
Two Pair
I own Matsui Zens and play them in tournament. They are more slippery than clay/ceramics/other plastics, for sure... but I think the "good sneeze" analogy is a bit exaggerated. I haven't had them "explode" upon shuffling or when being removed from a rack...
Of course, the zens I own are like... 10 years old? They seem to be in pristine condition, but I haven't owned brand new out of the box zens. They cling together pretty well and I've shuffled them without any issue.
Again, these are not brand new zens, these are previously owned and have probably seen a ton of home games. Their condition and colors, however, are immaculate and beyond comparison.
Also pretty freaking expensive. I could've bought a car with how much I've spent on my Zen collection.
Of course, the zens I own are like... 10 years old? They seem to be in pristine condition, but I haven't owned brand new out of the box zens. They cling together pretty well and I've shuffled them without any issue.
Again, these are not brand new zens, these are previously owned and have probably seen a ton of home games. Their condition and colors, however, are immaculate and beyond comparison.
Also pretty freaking expensive. I could've bought a car with how much I've spent on my Zen collection.
I have only handled a few Matsui chips together at one time, but I can see how their slipperiness could be a problem. Does anyone know if the larger diameter chips are able to stack better due to their larger diameter? High school physics tells me they will still be as slippery when picked up as a barrel, but the hope is that the larger diameter means the chips would have to travel farther before the stack experiences a "catastrophic" event. For a stack sitting on a table the extra weight would also increase friction, so there's that. It probably wouldn't make a practical difference, but I'm hoping someone here has hands on experience.
Exploding stacks became less and less common the more we handled the chips.Yeah, chips will fly but they sure are purty.
I sold my Blue Sands set a few years ago. 43mm Matsuis are just as slippery as 39mm ones. Furthermore they are much too heavy (especially if you prefer clay chips in the 9-11 grams range), so I wouldn't recommend them for a full set, but for a single denom only.
Robert P
Pair
pricewise, how do they stack up against sunfly?
Check posts starting at post 6 in this thread. Impossible to know without all the details of the design, breakdown, and quantity. But as a ballpark figure Matsuis are approximately a fuckload more expensive.
Robert P
Pair
haha
legend672
Full House
Hey zip . You have these plaques ?
Attachments
Zippity
Two Pair
Yes. But not nearly enough. Plaques are really hard for me to find. Are those for sale?
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