Mint CPC vs Casino Used Paulson? (1 Viewer)

[crussader]

The difference is, we can't call Paulson to order a custom set to our exact choosing but we can with CPC. So the limited nature of Paulson chips along with their quality makes them desireable.

And I can't call CPC and order a set of treehouse chips, making them even more limited than Paulsons.

 

[Lash]

If you got cpcs with shaped inlays and all the spots similar to wthcs i bet youd be pushing 3$

 

[crussader]

If you got cpcs with shaped inlays and all the spots similar to wthcs i bet youd be pushing 3$

Maybe pushing, but likely not over on average chip cost. But the real comparison is someone selling their used CPC set vs selling their used Paulson fantasy set. Why is the CPC set inherently less valuable? Personally, if I was going to spend $3 a chip I would much rather buy Knollwoods than Paulson Nationals.

 

[Jagamov]

Let's try this analogy. Imagine going to a used car lot (since we're talking about the secondary market value of the chips). There are two cars of similar price and condition you are trying to decide between. If one car was custom ordered by the original owner, and the other was originally bought out of dealer inventory, would that have any effect on your buying decision? Would the custom ordered car be inherently less valuable?

Yes, that custom pin-stripe and spoiler are ugly....

 

[Rhodeman77]

Maybe pushing, but likely not over on average chip cost. But the real comparison is someone selling their used CPC set vs selling their used Paulson fantasy set. Why is the CPC set inherently less valuable? Personally, if I was going to spend $3 a chip I would much rather buy Knollwoods than Paulson Nationals.

I would too!!! And many others feel similar and that is why we have bought custom sets.

There aren't many custom set that come up for sale, and of the ones that do only a few are truly special sets.

Most of them are being bought to be relabeled.

The Knollwoods set and others would have no problem selling at their cost or even above they are so well done.

 

[crussader]

Yes, that custom pin-stripe and spoiler are ugly....

Yes, that custom pin-stripe was a dealer installed add-on and that's why it sat on the dealer's lot for a while. Fortunately the custom ordered car didn't have that.

The point is that your decision is based on the look and quality of the car. Who gives a rip how it was originally ordered?

 

[Ronoh]

Let's try this analogy.

So I made what I feel is a fairly valid point and instead of answering the question you chose to use it to come up with a similar-looking-but-completely-unrelated analogy as a counter argument.

Just like when this happens in political discussions, this is the point where I walk away from the topic because you're obviously only looking to debate rather than to actually answer your original question. Good luck to you

 

[MD Mike]

If @Toby was selling some of those Black Cat club chips, I would be first in line to buy.

 

[k9dr]

If @Toby was selling some of those Black Cat club chips, I would be first in line to buy.

Sorry, you would be second in line :

 

[Jagamov]

Yes, that custom pin-stripe was a dealer installed add-on and that's why it sat on the dealer's lot for a while. Fortunately the custom ordered car didn't have that.

The point is that your decision is based on the look and quality of the car. Who gives a rip how it was originally ordered?

LOL...You got it backwards. The pin-stripe and the spoiler are what make it the custom ordered car....nobody said anything about a dealer add-on. You are going way out of your way to complicate this.

Plus you seem to be forgetting the basics here: Worth is only what someone is willing to pay for it...inherent value means nothing.

 

[pedrofisk]

Well as a designer I can say you are always choosing how narrow or how wide you are trying to appeal to the target consumer. No matter what it is being designed.

So the Paulson fantasy sets were trying to appeal to the biggest customer base (at that time) and naturally custom chips usually are designed to appeal to the narrowest of audiences.

It's not complicated. Sometimes something designed for a narrow audience just happens to have a very universal appeal because that was the customer's taste.

I think trying to figure out a value formula is not worth the effort. Value formulas are what give us 20 identical romantic comedies every year.

 

[jja412]

Let's try this analogy. Imagine going to a used car lot (since we're talking about the secondary market value of the chips). There are two cars of similar price and condition you are trying to decide between. If one car was custom ordered by the original owner, and the other was originally bought out of dealer inventory, would that have any effect on your buying decision? Would the custom ordered car be inherently less valuable?

Now imagine if the one car out of dealer inventory (paulson) was no longer available new, while the custom ordered car (CPC) could still be bought new with all the options YOU could imagine for the same price. Big difference.

 

[arch3r]

 

[Sprouty]

Thanks guys, great thoughts and questions. Am in the process of selling my mint WTHC set-could have sold it for more but supplying a PCF member discount. Now, need to replace - was thinking of CPC Rounders, adding on to my Horseshoe Cincys, Tangiers group buy, or Chip Room Tonkawas When available. More for play than collecting but as a poker player - always interested in maximizing value.

I saw some rounders in the classifieds. Not sure price wise how they compare with what cpc currently offers.

 

[Toby]

If @Toby was selling some of those Black Cat club chips, I would be first in line to buy.

Sorry, you would be second in line :

Breakdance fight/rap battle?

 

[MD Mike]

Breakdance fight/rap battle?

@Toby
I think if you licensed your design, I would provide an order to CPC like today

 

[Lemonzest]

I wouldn't be interested in owning someone else's custom set unless I really loved it. Most of the custom sets are cool for the person that designed/owns them but don't appeal to me much.

If someone made a good looking custom set that wasn't uber personalized I would be interested. For example, I wouldn't want a set that said "Cedar Room" or "One Out" on it. Those rooms are cool but they aren't really mine.

As someone said above the Paulson Fantasy sets are designed with universal appeal and custom sets appeal to a very specific few (perhaps only 1 person...)

 

[Nex]

Strongly depends on the kind of custom I believe, as was already said.

Chips reading Bob's Basement Poker Room in Whatevertown, KY probably don't raise any interest by anyone but the initial owner, but if your theme is more generic and more importantly without strong/any real-world ties, the potential "market" might be bigger. Take Lady Luck Club (generic) for example, or Iron Bank (book/TV theme), The Boulevard (generic), Chateau de Noix (wine/France), or my Club Hel (movie).