Ryuzumei
Sitting Out
Hi all
I already asked a similar question four years ago but then life got busy and I never got to create/order my custom chips at CPC.
Now after they sent the e-mail that they'll sell or close the business I had to bump this up my priority list and here I am again.
This time I'll not create a fully custom set as I don't want to rush it and therefore don't have enough time for it before the CPC deadline.
The plan is to buy three chip sets.
I've tried to prepare as much as possible and have read through my old thread and all the suggestions within.
Additionally I've checked the following resources.
Beginner Guide
Cash Game Guide
Poker Set Selection Tool (Google Docs)
Below you can find my thoughts for the Cash Game Chips Set.
Details Cash Game
Poker: NLHE
Players: 10
Buy-ins: 1-2 per player depending on stakes
Chip set size: 900 (820 for playing, 80 spare in case some get lost/break)
Total Bank: 5830$ (820 chips)
Stakes and Buy-in:
0.25/0.25 (20$)
0.25/0.25 (25$)
0.25/0.50 (50$)
0.50/1.00 (100$)
1.00/2.00 (200$)
My Questions
1. What do you think of my spreadsheet with regards to:
2. I want to allow 50BB, 100BB (standard) and 200BB buy-ins/rebuys
a) My question is if I should stick with the above three buy-in options or if there's a better way.
b) I've also prepared the starting stacks and need advice with the following.
Is the 50BB starting stack alright, or does it contain any major faults?
I think for the 200BB starting stack I have way to many chips, how could I adjust it so it's more balanced? (I just doubled the chips amount from the 100BB)
c) I'm aware that if I allow 10 people to buy-in with 200BB for example at 1/2$ stakes that my bank is too small to allow another 200BB rebuy for everybody.
This stake is meant for "future proofing" the set and it's unlikely that we'll play it soon or have that many rebuys.
Also we usually are only 5-6 people.
I'll probably make some rules regarding possible buy-ins for the different stakes so everybody is on board when playing.
3. I've read that you shouldn't include too many fracs as it promotes limping, but when playing 0.25/0.25 stakes with 20$ and 25$ buy-ins, aren't more fracs needed, as they are used the most or is the 1$ denomination really the work horse chip?
Is there a way to counteract limping if the SB and BB are the same chip?
4. Should I add 100 or 120 of 0.50$ chips so the 0.50/1.00 stake game doesn't need as many 0.25$ chips?
Or do I even need the 0.5$ chips?
Only the SB needs the 0.25$ chips and after the BB it's either fold, call or raise. So no more 0.25$ chips needed.
If somebody doesn't have any fracs that person can change with another player?
5. To spice it up I'd like to be able to add Ante to this Cash Game.
Is this possible for Cash Games and what's the best way to implement it, use the SB as Ante or BBA?
As I don't have any 0.50$ chips it would be difficult to implement it for the 0.50/1.00 stakes game.
It would be possible if there's an even amount of players. (With four players if I use BBA = 4 x SB Ante is two BB, so 2 x 1$ chip)
6. Does the 0.25/0.50 stake game need more fracs as the SB and BB are the same chip. (like in 1.00/2.00 stakes)
If you have any question just let me know.
Thank you in advance for your appreciated advice!
Best regards
Victor
I already asked a similar question four years ago but then life got busy and I never got to create/order my custom chips at CPC.
Now after they sent the e-mail that they'll sell or close the business I had to bump this up my priority list and here I am again.
This time I'll not create a fully custom set as I don't want to rush it and therefore don't have enough time for it before the CPC deadline.
The plan is to buy three chip sets.
CPC
One set for Cash Games
900 chips (820 in play and 80 spare)
Rounders with different denominations and maybe some adjustments to the colors. (will probably stick to the original color)
One set for Tournaments
I've not decided yet how many chips I need as it depends on if I choose T100-Base or T500-Base, I'll make a separate thread.
Atlantic or Hot Stamp chips with changes to the denominations and the colors.
Ceramics
One set for Cash Games (same stakes as for the CPC set or micro stakes)
Dunes, Tiki or Dia De Los Muertos.
One set for Cash Games
900 chips (820 in play and 80 spare)
Rounders with different denominations and maybe some adjustments to the colors. (will probably stick to the original color)
One set for Tournaments
I've not decided yet how many chips I need as it depends on if I choose T100-Base or T500-Base, I'll make a separate thread.
Atlantic or Hot Stamp chips with changes to the denominations and the colors.
Ceramics
One set for Cash Games (same stakes as for the CPC set or micro stakes)
Dunes, Tiki or Dia De Los Muertos.
I've tried to prepare as much as possible and have read through my old thread and all the suggestions within.
Additionally I've checked the following resources.
Beginner Guide
Cash Game Guide
Poker Set Selection Tool (Google Docs)
Below you can find my thoughts for the Cash Game Chips Set.
Details Cash Game
Poker: NLHE
Players: 10
Buy-ins: 1-2 per player depending on stakes
Chip set size: 900 (820 for playing, 80 spare in case some get lost/break)
Total Bank: 5830$ (820 chips)
Stakes and Buy-in:
0.25/0.25 (20$)
0.25/0.25 (25$)
0.25/0.50 (50$)
0.50/1.00 (100$)
1.00/2.00 (200$)
My Questions
1. What do you think of my spreadsheet with regards to:
- the stakes and buy-ins
0.25/0.25 (20$)
0.25/0.25 (25$)
0.25/0.50 (50$)
0.50/1.00 (100$)
1.00/2.00 (200$)
- starting stacks
- and total chips amount per denomination
2. I want to allow 50BB, 100BB (standard) and 200BB buy-ins/rebuys
a) My question is if I should stick with the above three buy-in options or if there's a better way.
b) I've also prepared the starting stacks and need advice with the following.
Is the 50BB starting stack alright, or does it contain any major faults?
I think for the 200BB starting stack I have way to many chips, how could I adjust it so it's more balanced? (I just doubled the chips amount from the 100BB)
c) I'm aware that if I allow 10 people to buy-in with 200BB for example at 1/2$ stakes that my bank is too small to allow another 200BB rebuy for everybody.
This stake is meant for "future proofing" the set and it's unlikely that we'll play it soon or have that many rebuys.
Also we usually are only 5-6 people.
I'll probably make some rules regarding possible buy-ins for the different stakes so everybody is on board when playing.
3. I've read that you shouldn't include too many fracs as it promotes limping, but when playing 0.25/0.25 stakes with 20$ and 25$ buy-ins, aren't more fracs needed, as they are used the most or is the 1$ denomination really the work horse chip?
Is there a way to counteract limping if the SB and BB are the same chip?
4. Should I add 100 or 120 of 0.50$ chips so the 0.50/1.00 stake game doesn't need as many 0.25$ chips?
Or do I even need the 0.5$ chips?
Only the SB needs the 0.25$ chips and after the BB it's either fold, call or raise. So no more 0.25$ chips needed.
If somebody doesn't have any fracs that person can change with another player?
5. To spice it up I'd like to be able to add Ante to this Cash Game.
Is this possible for Cash Games and what's the best way to implement it, use the SB as Ante or BBA?
As I don't have any 0.50$ chips it would be difficult to implement it for the 0.50/1.00 stakes game.
It would be possible if there's an even amount of players. (With four players if I use BBA = 4 x SB Ante is two BB, so 2 x 1$ chip)
6. Does the 0.25/0.50 stake game need more fracs as the SB and BB are the same chip. (like in 1.00/2.00 stakes)
If you have any question just let me know.
Thank you in advance for your appreciated advice!
Best regards
Victor
