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I didn't pre-order, but can we still get in on the Classic Circle (4-Color, bridge size, jumbo index)? Thanks.
 
I’m curious why so many of you seem to prefer bridge size cards over poker side cards. I much prefer the wider poker cards.
 
Bridge size is easier to handle when playing Omaha
If you are dealt a lot of cards (like playing actual bridge), I can see the advantage of narrower cards. But Omaha is only 4 cards. And most of the time you don’t even hold the cards. You just peek.
 
I'm curious why you prefer poker sized cards.
Because we're playing poker?

And like I said before, it's only two (or four for Omaha) cards. And those cards spend most of the time on the felt, anyway. So why the need for a more narrow card?
 
I assume that the other color in the set is not red? I didn't see the other color in the description for the following sets.


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Casino (bridge size, jumbo index) 11 sets still available

Desjgn Casino 1 set $16.95 (shipping $7.75)
Desjgn Casino 2 sets $32.95 (shipping $7.75)

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Classic Baroque (bridge size, jumbo index)
Desjgn Classic Baroque 1 set $16.95 (shipping $7.75)
 
Without going thru 10 pages of this, excuse me if these questions have been asked already:
-Is everything from the OP up to date and in stock? Planning on doing some Christmas shopping and I dont want to make excuses.
-Is there a better way to combine a few things and save on shipping?

Thanks, love the looks of the cards!
 
Yes, everything is up to date and appreciate the questions @grebe.

If you are looking to get a variety of sets, for example, the Classic Flourish, Victorian, Casino, Circle, and Baroque decks are all of the same price point. So for example, if you decided on a set of casinos, circles, and Victorian, just use one of the 3 sets link and send me a pm of the sets you want. If it is anything over 5 sets, I need to ship in two separate packages. I hope this helps.
 
If you are looking to get a variety of sets, for example, the Classic Flourish, Victorian, Casino, Circle, and Baroque decks are all of the same price point. So for example, if you decided on a set of casinos, circles, and Victorian, just use one of the 3 sets link and send me a pm of the sets you want.

Done.... 3 sets of Victorians, one set of each color combo.

Just for nostalgia's sake... anyone remember these?...

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Circa 2006... Still in use, in my travel set.
 
A few may wish to not remember how the four’s pips were in a line @Dix when I first started out, but at the time I didn’t realize how players viewed their cards. For me I have always looked at the index even on the flop/turn/river. I think that players look at their cards three ways: Index Readers, Pip Layout, or to a lesser extent Pip Counters.
 
I've never heard a single complaint.

Or, well... none that were ever voiced anyway. Probably due to the fact they felt outnumbered by the comments of, "hey, those are different", all the way up to "wow, those look cool".

So maybe they just kept quiet & got over it.
 
Has anyone used Desjn poker size cards in a shuffletech? Any comments on jam rate? I'm currently using Copag's and usually have 1 jam per ~8 hours of playing..... but I really like the look of these Desjn cards and like to change things up on occasion at my game.
 
I hope someone with some actual experience with 'em in a Shuffletech will chime in. I'm thinking about getting one, so I'd love to hear it.

If you're only getting one jam in about 8 hrs, I'd call that pretty d*mn decent. I've seen the hi-dollar Shuffle Master Deckmates have about the same in casino sessions.

All that being said, I can give you a description of what I feel are the major differences & you can try to make a judgement call on what you may think will work best if no one else chimes in... if that'll help any.

(Note - weights listed below are for poker size cards)

Copag are what I consider "better than typical" for a PVC card. Probably the most flexible of the PVC lot. But, still have that smooth-ish almost semi-gloss PVC finish that I don't generally care for. WEIGHT: 2.50 gr. / THICK: .0115"

When it comes to Desjgn.... umm.... well, we now (unfortunately IMO) have 2 versions. The reason is well documented here: Bridge/Jumbo Index Issue

The "older" version (printed on Modiano stock) are one of my two favorite decks of all time. If I had the cash, I'd buy-up whatever remaining stock of jumbo index poker size is out there for the taking. Yes,... seriously. They hand shuffle like warm butter, & dealing is a no-brainer process. I can count the number of times I've accidentally dealt 2 cards on a single pitch on the fingers of one hand. & I may not even need all 5 fingers to do it either. (& in case you didn't notice my post above, that goes all the way back to 2006)

Compared to Copags, they're cellulose acetate, not PVC. Which means they're lighter & more flexible even while being ever-so-slightly thicker. They also have a gorgeous matte linen finish putting the feel & looks right up there with Kem (which are my other favorite - I just wish they'd get their Joker to stop picking his nose). WEIGHT: 2.43 gr / THICK: .0120"

The "new" Desjgn (& I hope Jason doesn't hate me for this) have slid back to be the bronze medal spot on my podium. In all fairness, it's not Jason's fault. Modiano couldn't put on their big-boy pants long enough to own up to the fact that they screwed the QC pooch. This sent Jason to that other Italian mob Dal Negro for replacements. Being that I'm in the USofA, I've never actually had any prior experience with DN's acetate stock cards. If you've ever tried to find a deck of 'em in these parts you'd know why. Assuming that the new Desjgns are on that card stock, & if I'm being honest, I don't get the hype.

As stated, they are cellulose acetate, but compared to Copag, they are thicker & slightly stiffer. Also, the finish is much more "textured" than the Modiano stock. I've only dealt one final table with 'em, but I did have to catch myself a couple times before I accidentally pitched two cards, something that I rarely do with Kems or the older Modiano stock decks. So, while the older decks were slightly thicker, yet lighter & more flexible, the new Dal Negro stock is thicker, heavier, and somewhat stiffer than Copag. And, while neither are as smooth finished as Copag's PVC, the new stock is "rougher" or "more textured" than the linen finish of old. WEIGHT: 2.66 gr / THICK: .0130"

If you think you may want to try both old & new, Jason still has (I believe the count is now 28 not 29 - I bought a set) some of the old Classic Victorian (poker size - jumbo index) old stock left in the Wyvern/Phoenix (brown/orange) color combo.

Having said all that, let me add this.... if customer service means anything, nobody on the planet beats Jason. As anyone that ended up with a pooched deck of the last Modiano run will attest to.
 
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@Dix thank you for such an informative and detailed response.

I think I'm going to go for it and buy two sets, one old and one new and just give them a shot.

Re: shuffletech I know they get a lot of bad reviews but me and my players absolutely freakin' LOVE the thing. I can confidently say we see 40+ more hands in a typical 5 hour evening vs. hand shuffling. And I think it gives the game a little more security. I have it mounted in a side cart on wheels with the unit wrapped in towels inside the cart to cut down on noise. And I agree one jam in 8hrs is fabulous. That's why I hesitate to change anything! :)

It has had 25 sessions so far. When you consider the cost per session (assuming the thing lasts at least another 75+) could drop to $5 or something.. I think it really starts making sense. Heck, even just seeing more hands (assuming some of us hosts are actually profitable players :) ) means it could pay for itself.
 
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