Paulson discontinues all home poker chips (4 Viewers)

[Poker Zombie]

http://massgaming.com/about/expanded-gaming-act/

i wasn't joking...

I don't know about Nevada (yet), but in Mass. it will run $85,000,000 plus you must have a hotel worth $500,000,000
and they're not kidding.

 

[MoscowRadio]

Obvious answer is obvious. We do a group buy for 100,000 chips.

 

[Zippity]

Obvious answer is obvious. We do a group buy for 100,000 chips.

I would be down for any sort of group buy, assuming art work and stuff is good (which it almost always is)

 

[SixSpeedFury]

I guess you can say it's a Paulson thing?

 

[BigSlick4523]

This is a sad day years down the road Chips are gonna be very expensive more then they already are

 

[duckdrummer]

Just sad. I worry that CPC will end up going belly up someday and there will be no high end options left.

Well, if you have $50K, you can grab up PGI's Scroll mold and equipment and make your own. I see it is for sale again over on the other side.

 

[David Spragg]

Well, if you have $50K, you can grab up PGI's Scroll mold and equipment and make your own. I see it is for sale again over on the other side.

Well just as a heads up you are missing a few basic parts before you can make your own.
Boiler
Chiller
Mixing mill
Rolling mill
Lamination press
Slug mold
Punches and associated presses
Suitable factory with more than standard commercial power supply
Gas supply
$20k of plumbing equipment and a couple of months labor

Then of course a qualified commercial boiler operator, many years experience, and the formula for the material that works.

So assuming you can pick all that up used, you might be able to do it for $250,000. If you have to buy or have new made, might be a touch more, like $500,000

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Eww, so much nasty toxic fumes. Lets just use them as landfill.

But seriously, wouldn't this exit of GPI open an opportunity for someone to make an entrance into the high end poker chip market? How big of an operation is CPC, I'm wondering?

We have a 5000 sq ft factory. If demand was there, we have the equipment if we could find and train employees. 10 presses could theoretically produce 2 million chips a year.

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Whoops, forgot to add a grinder, inlay printer, and machine shop to take care of day to day maintenance.
Then we have the materials, some of which are not available to the public.
Even if they were, the minimum quantity of each of the products for just our limited color palette would set you back a further $20k just to make your first chip.
i up my estimates to $300,000 and $550,000 before you add all your tools, furniture and ancillary equipment (pumps, compressor, heating tables) that only adds another $15k though.

All that will make you 200 chips a day
Need to expand to make it a business.

 

[BGinGA]

David, you are now officially my favorite poster evar.

 

[Poker Zombie]

Hey, let's just make our own chips...

Well just as a heads up you are missing a few basic parts before you can make your own.
Boiler
Chiller
Mixing mill
Rolling mill
Lamination press
Slug mold
Punches and associated presses
Suitable factory with more than standard commercial power supply
Gas supply
$20k of plumbing equipment and a couple of months labor

Then of course a qualified commercial boiler operator, many years experience, and the formula for the material that works.

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Whoops, forgot to add a grinder, inlay printer, and machine shop to take care of day to day maintenance.
Then we have the materials, some of which are not available to the public.
Even if they were, the minimum quantity of each of the products for just our limited color palette would set you back a further $20k just to make your first chip.
i up my estimates to $300,000 and $550,000 before you add all your tools, furniture and ancillary equipment (pumps, compressor, heating tables) that only adds another $15k though.

All that will make you 200 chips a day
Need to expand to make it a business.

 

[duckdrummer]

Well just as a heads up you are missing a few basic parts before you can make your own.

My post was meant to be ironical, not serious. I did a poor job of conveying that.

 

[Chicken Rob]

Does anyone know what it takes to get chips out of paulson? Would a state issued charity gaming license do it? That is only a 2 year process in NH.

 

[rowlin]

As much as I think it sucks that GPI is no longer producing chips for the home market, it's not like they were making the best molds available to us regular folks anyway.

The good news is that people interested in new, U.S. made, compression-molded chips for their home game will now be more likely to go to CPC. I would much rather see teh monies go to David and Jim than to GPI, and a (hopefully) stronger CPC is a good thing for all of us around here.

I think it would be a far greater loss if, say, CPC closed up shop or if TCR sales were somehow taken away from us.

 

[duckdrummer]

As much as I think it sucks that GPI is no longer producing chips for the home market, it's not like they were making the best molds available to us regular folks anyway.

Agreed. Couldn't have said it better. I'm saddened by the news, but I am not enough of a chipaholic to be broken up over this.

 

[BGinGA]

Does anyone know what it takes to get chips out of paulson? Would a state issued charity gaming license do it? That is only a 2 year process in NH.

Josh @ apache does. Trademark does. I'd assume that any licensed casino does. Beyond that, I dunno.

 

[till359]

so now i know why i could not find the page for semi custom paulson chips on apache
that's so bad

i hope it is for kill bcc for professional market and launch them exclusively for home users

 

[Tommy]

so now i know why i could not find the page for semi custom paulson chips on apache
that's so bad

i hope it is for kill bcc for professional market and launch them exclusively for home users

Since you are in France, check out www.marlowcasinochips.com if you don't already know about it. Shipping would be cheaper.

 

[CdnBeerLover]

i hope it is for kill bcc for professional market and launch them exclusively for home users

While a nice thought, I believe they did it simply to eliminate competition. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[David Spragg]

My post was meant to be ironical, not serious. I did a poor job of conveying that.

I think mine was a little tongue in cheek also.

 

[Rakrul]

Whatever happened to the SinCity group buy?

 

[Irish]

Question for the masses - how has this news from Paulson changed your thoughts on the chip sets you have, were planning on getting, or were planning to sell? Personally, I had a few sets I was looking at unloading to "thin the herd", but now I'm reconsidering. I'm thinking now of saving a couple of sets to pass onto to my boys in case they catch the poker bug and want to play with more than dice chips or china clays in 10 years...

 

[CdnBeerLover]

I had started saving up for a private cardroom or Avalon hot stamped set. Since CPC doesn't offer hot stamping, my future chip purchases are uncertain. Not sure I would be happy with inlays.

 

[duckdrummer]

Question for the masses - how has this news from Paulson changed your thoughts on the chip sets you have, were planning on getting, or were planning to sell? Personally, I had a few sets I was looking at unloading to "thin the herd", but now I'm reconsidering. I'm thinking now of saving a couple of sets to pass onto to my boys in case they catch the poker bug and want to play with more than dice chips or china clays in 10 years...

It changes nothing at all for me. I wasn't all that enamored with the Paulson home offerings in the first place. Plans were (and still are) to do a custom set with CPC.

 

[Chicken Rob]

I had started saving up for a private cardroom or Avalon hot stamped set. Since CPC doesn't offer hot stamping, my future chip purchases are uncertain. Not sure I would be happy with inlays.

There are people who will hotstamp your CPCs for you...

 

[CdnBeerLover]

Would prefer not to incur additional shipping charges if they could be avoided, plus I have no idea what set up fees there would be. We'll see.

 

[MrWitti]

Someone had a set of World Tophat and Cane chips for sale at reasonable price. This was 2 month ago and I skipped this deal as it was not first priority. After hearing the news I had to pull the trigger...

 

[links_slayer]

Would prefer not to incur additional shipping charges if they could be avoided, plus I have no idea what set up fees there would be. We'll see.

monkeydog's fees were VERY reasonable last time I inquired. I think he was in Canada, too?

 

[CdnBeerLover]

monkeydog's fees were VERY reasonable last time I inquired. I think he was in Canada, too?

Cool. If I decide to push forward with a custom CPC set, I'll follow up with him.

Thanks!

 

[stafil]

(Ooops, replied to wrong thread)

 

[allforcharity]

Oh, no! How could this possibly happen? A betrayal of gigantic proportions!

 

[waddadonk]

Found these...

Paulson 1000 World Tophat and Cane Paulson Clay Chips with Carrier (Clear)

Ships from and sold by Amazon.com

$1,254.74 & FREE Shipping

Apparently a good find. What were people paying for at this time?