oMo
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I looking for a German how could tell me something about Air shipping, Zoll and Mehrwertsteuer^^
Is there someone how did Experience ?
Is there someone how did Experience ?
Poker Chip Shipping Tips and Tricks (7 Viewers)
- Thread starter Tommy
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Not a tip or trick but super annoyed that USPS delivered an empty package today:
Package went from TX two weeks ago to CA last week, then back to TX and back again to CA over the weekend, and delivered today. It's been retaped but was empty!
Package went from TX two weeks ago to CA last week, then back to TX and back again to CA over the weekend, and delivered today. It's been retaped but was empty!
Hello everyone. I think this is a good example of what I came here to comment today. I searched the thread and there isn't too much discussion about this. ... and there is a lot of discussion about broken shipments and the like.
I'd encourage you to use UPS or FedEx for valuables.
While I understand everyone wants to save a few currency units with shipping, some of these are REALLY valuable and expensive items you are shipping.
I've worked UPS/FedEx for around 20 years now. We constantly have customers complaining about the US Post shipping and packages lost or damaged. Seldom do we ever have issues with UPS or FedEx and when there are issues, insurance will and can cover it - when properly insured. Additionally, there are signature services to add a level of security for UPS and FedEx.
Personally, I don't necessarily think $3-$10 flat-rate shipping is worth it for a $100-15,000 item - I'd rather pony up the $25-$100 for proper shipping and be at ease. I get there are a lot of complaints with these UPS or Fedex prices, but to me, CONUS is reasonable. International is wicked expensive - but I think you all understand, you get what you pay for.
The alternative is a lost unique set.
I somewhat agree with this. I worked at UPS part-time when I was going to school. The first week there a guy said those "Fragile" and "Handle With Care" messages were distracting, and didn't mean anything. I asked why and he said he didn't like being told what to do by a box.Hopefully the plain black and white labels and the "Please" helps.
My experience with this is that UPS and FedEx will generally handle all packages with care, and they won't kick a box out of spite for those labels. Unless it's terribly packed, we never have issues with fragile items at their destination. Crystal, pictures, unique sensitive tech, etc.
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USPS completely destroyed this bubble wrap package. Fortunately, it was a cheap sample set. But what the hell?
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
USPS Ground Advantage is a huge downgrade in service.
Huh.
I’ve had some terrible experiences with UPS, especially around the holidays.
One was for an expensive, hard-to-find part for my truck which they lost for several weeks, which was only finally recovered because I would not let them forget that it was lost. It was only found because I visited the nearest distribution center and insisted on hunting around the garage/warehouse myself. The staff there and those I spoke with on the phone had no interest in helping.
FedEx I find more reliable, but has its issues as well. I had one instance where a large package was left behind a neighbor’s barn. Another where the driver left a package inside a visitor’s car. I even had one guy (who seems to have been let go) who was actually *throwing* smaller packages out of his door without stopping. I found one in the bushes several days after it was supposedly signed for by me.
Every business has bad apples but if anything I think my success rate with USPS is as good or better for boxes of a reasonable size.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
I've probably mentioned it before, but the weak link in every shipping chain comes down to the humans involved. USPS, UPS, FedEx... they all have humans, and eventually you will get one that just doesn't care about your one little package.
Until someone takes people out of the equation packages will get lost or damaged, and most of the people you have to deal with to find a lost package or be compensated for damages will largely not care.
Oddly, buying stuff new from Amazon seems to be the best system. If it is lost or damaged, they are usually quick to refund/replace. Just need Jeff Bezos to stop playing with rockets and go full-scale delivery service.
...because Bezos employs a lot of robots.
Until someone takes people out of the equation packages will get lost or damaged, and most of the people you have to deal with to find a lost package or be compensated for damages will largely not care.
Oddly, buying stuff new from Amazon seems to be the best system. If it is lost or damaged, they are usually quick to refund/replace. Just need Jeff Bezos to stop playing with rockets and go full-scale delivery service.
...because Bezos employs a lot of robots.
Not at all they said "same service, same price, plus $100 insurance for free!" what could go wrong?
Oh wait the service has significantly declined? Well at least we get the same prices and $100 insurance for free!
Oh wait...
TheBenedicts
New Member
Great advice, thank you!
foreverdev
Pair
For Canadians receiving chips from abroad... I've used Fedex, UPS, USPS to receive chips in Canada (Montreal, QC) and thought I'd share my experiences.
There are taxes, but no duties (in the current legal duty/tariff landscape anyway
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According to data from Rush Order, which analyzed carrier performance during peak seasons, the on-time performance for these carriers in the fourth quarter of 2022 was:
• UPS: 97.6%
• FedEx: 95.4%
• USPS: 94.6%
So, it's all a balancing act between cost of shipping, insurance (or not), and brokerage fee (and if you have the time and ability to do self-clearing). Hope this helps.
There are taxes, but no duties (in the current legal duty/tariff landscape anyway
)| USPS: CAD$9.95 CBSA brokerage/handling fee + 14.975% tax |
UPS: This feels like a scam. If you use UPS worldwide Express/Expedited the brokerage fees below are included. You can also "self-clear," which entails contacting UPS and telling them not to clear your package, and that you will self clear. Then you must take documentation down to your local customs office and declare it in person. Then you only have to pay the $9.95 CBSA brokerage/handling fee. It's rather simple, it just takes some time. I once did this to import a large inheritance of antique Dutch furniture with a value in the low five figures and it only cost me that $9.95. However, if you let UPS clear customs for you, you can pay some ridiculous fees.[ self-clearing instructions here ] [ source - pg 115 ] |
| Fedex: As you can see, Fedex rates are lower, but still. That being said, I just imported two pro audio components from USA separately, one at $2k, and one at $5k, and all I was charged was 11.40 "ROD" fee. I believe this is unusual as it contradicts what they say on their own website. [ source ] |
According to data from Rush Order, which analyzed carrier performance during peak seasons, the on-time performance for these carriers in the fourth quarter of 2022 was:
• UPS: 97.6%
• FedEx: 95.4%
• USPS: 94.6%
So, it's all a balancing act between cost of shipping, insurance (or not), and brokerage fee (and if you have the time and ability to do self-clearing). Hope this helps.
doakwolf
Straight
Tricky to go through all of the posts here so I gotta ask.. What are people's thoughts on posting chips in acrylic racks? I'm looking to ship 6 racks of GPI chips in genuine Paulson racks from Aus to USA to @Tjislost but we want to be sure it'll be safe to bubble wrap them well in the acrylic racks and ship that way? Has anyone had failures with this method? Normally I use the Apache method with barrels tightly wrapped in zip lock bags (that's what we call them in Australia) and surrounded well with bubble wrap.
Any input please?
Any input please?
AlbinoDragon
Flush
I've dropped a full rack of chips from my hands onto carpet, and that was enough to break the rack. (thankfully, no chips were harmed in this event).
Unless they are very tightly wrapped where there is zero movement in the box, I'd worry all the way until they reached their destination.
(I have no advice beyond shipping four racks of chips in CPC boxes, well padded with plenty of packing material around those boxes... so I can't say much beyond that. I'd still worry...).
paul sydney
Flush
Shipping chips in racks is not a good idea mate.
If they're plastics or ceramics then maybe but it's not my preferred option and I'd probably use two trays per rack (top and bottom) if you needed to include the trays in the one shipment.
Matsui ships all of their chips in covered racks. However, those are extremely hard plastic chips. I personally would never do that, even with plastics. But if you're talking about clay, then there's absolutely no way I would ship them like that.
foreverdev
Pair
I’ve received chips wrapped in thin foam and inside racks and of course doubled wrapped, which I thought was very safe
If the chips are wrapped super tight in barrels and then wrapped attached to the rack and then each rack is individually padded and isolated ... Then maybe.
But the issue that I found is that when you wrap them sufficiently, they no longer truly fit inside the rack and they have to be squeezed in there, which I don't like.
But the issue that I found is that when you wrap them sufficiently, they no longer truly fit inside the rack and they have to be squeezed in there, which I don't like.
I’ve shipped chips in racks on occasion. Wrap the whole shebang tightly in cellophane, then use plenty of bubble wrap and or padding. It’s not my preferred method of shipping, but I don’t see anything wrong with it.
Colquhoun
4 of a Kind
I recently shipped ceramics in Justin racks. The chips were secured with a thin foam inside the rack to deny any movement. Then, each rack was separately placed in its' own a bubble wrap envelope (I save used Amazon bubble envelopes for stuff like this), then the bubbled racks were taped together like a big brick, and shipped in doubled, medium flat boxes.
WedgeRock
Royal Flush
I just got two racks of chips sent like this in the last month without issue.
Saran wrap might seem like a good way to keep chips secure, but it comes with a big drawback. When wrapped too tightly, it can be nearly impossible to find an edge to peel back, often leaving scissors or a sharp blade as the only option—an obvious risk. If you're packing chips in a Warneke-style box and need extra padding, just use crumpled paper, bubble wrap, or brown packing paper. It keeps everything in place without making unpacking a hassle. I’ve reshipped over 20,000 racks this way—without a single damaged chip. Zero.
I’ve used clean white paper towel inside a Warnecke box to make the fit snug. Typically I’ll put a half sheet across the dividers and then put the chips down on that; then fold the other half and lay it across the top.
I do like using a roll of stretch wrap to secure and seal the exterior. This helps protect against moisture in the case of some disaster, and also holds the box together really firmly.
Saran wrap is best used this way— I would say just be sure it's not wrapped so tightly that a blade is needed to open it, as that poses the same risk. A simple trick is to place a piece of painter's tape where the wrap ends and label it with a Sharpie: "OPEN HERE." I've done this when securing items to make it easy for the recipient to open without cursing my name in the process.
Colquhoun
4 of a Kind
And please, folks...if at all possible...painter's tape on Warneke boxes, never packing tape.
I've never understood this one. Just slice the tape with a blade and the box is good as new. Better than new actually, because now it's reinforced with tape.
Poker Zombie
Royal Flush
If you store some chips in the cardboard boxes, the tape-wrapped boxes look ghetto.
Clean boxes until you can improve the storage concerns ftw.
Clean boxes until you can improve the storage concerns ftw.
Colquhoun
4 of a Kind
Except Iv'e got some boxes that have ben shipped over and over again, and there's 5 or 6 mailings-worth of tape caked on to the boxes. It's nice when they arrive with one layer of low-tack tape and you basically have a new Warneke box instead of a sticky tape blob.
My guess is...others don't like it either, so those are the ones they use for shipping to the next guy.
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