Public Tina Hybrid mold (3 Viewers)

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

Even if it gets picked, i think it’ll depend on how well it can be implemented, if the mold can be executed in ceramic material well and if dye sublimation printing can get into the nooks and crannies of the mold.

Based on how well the Greek mold looks with the printing, I feel like the web mold, which seems even shallower, should not have any unexpected results. Not sure about star or palm or anything else.

This. Does anyone really think we're going to see any detail on the dice? The mold won't be Arodie, it will be Arosquare.

And the Roman mold is likely to be even worse. These are awesome compressed clay chips when you have a beautiful, hand crafted compression cup. But do any of you truly believe we're going to get that kind of detail from a Chinese injection mold? I'll be thrilled if we do, but I'm not too confident.

 

[bergs]

China can create islands out of nothing in the South China Sea. They can give us back the Arodie that is rightfully ours.

 

[Marius L]

China can create islands out of nothing in the South China Sea. They can give us back the Arodie that is rightfully ours.

Solid logic

 

[SeanGecko]

Hybrid molds -
Web (got the okay from David)
PCF
Palm
Castle and Spear
Star MD-57
X
Cards

 

[Nanook]

This. Does anyone really think we're going to see any detail on the dice? The mold won't be Arodie, it will be Arosquare....

If this is true then it has to be considered, but what gives you the idea that detail can't be good with this sort of mold? Maybe we should ask someone that knows rather than just speculate.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

If this is true then it has to be considered, but what gives you the idea that detail can't be good with this sort of mold? Maybe we should ask someone that knows rather than just speculate.

That's my point. Before we get all excited about some of these molds, we need to know if they can faithfully reproduce them. Everything they have done before
has been pretty simple. Are they willing to put in the time and effort needed to make these look close to the originals?

 

[improviseallday]

Before we get all excited about some of these molds, we need to know if they can faithfully reproduce them.

IMO we should try something that gracefully degrades. For example, if we attempt a star mold with variable depth (deeper towards the middle of the star), if it doesn't work, then we would still have a flat star mold shape.

 

[SeanGecko]

Arodie and Roman are out. David holds the ip on both.

 

[SeanGecko]

IMO we should try something that gracefully degrades. For example, if we attempt a star mold with variable depth (deeper towards the middle of the star), if it doesn't work, then we would still have a flat star mold shape.

I've also been asking Tina what she thinks about what can be made.
Web or something like it would have similar to her jewelry shaped diamond so that would work fine.
She likes the palm trees one too.

 

[SeanGecko]

Hybrid molds -
Web (got the okay from David)
PCF
Palm
Star MD-57
X
Cards

Updated post. Currently allowed molds.
Unless I'm making a mistake.

 

[bergs]

Arodie and Roman are out. David holds the ip on both.

How does David hold the IP when Fremont Street owns the mold?

 

[chipinla]

How does David hold the IP when Fremont Street owns the mold?

Have you ever seen David and Fremont Street in the same room at the same time?

 

[SeanGecko]

Shit man I don't know.

How does David hold the IP when Fremont Street owns the mold?

 

[BGinGA]

Hybrid molds -
Web (got the okay from David)
PCF
Palm
Castle and Spear
Star MD-57
X
Cards

Based on how a line-based debossed ceramic molds (diamond, greek key) dye-sub print significantly better than shape-based debossed ceramic molds (cards, scrown, TinaHatCane), I would be in strong favor of either a) a web mold design, or b) a star mold design (but one that utilizes outlines depicting the stars vs using solid debossed shapes).

Using debossed solid shapes results in significantly lower-weight chips, as do using larger recessed centers (which also reduce chip-to-chip contact area, negatively affecting chip stacking stability). Personally, I would not be interested in either.

Lastly, the Castle & Spear mold design is owned by @ttttubby and would require his permission.

 

[SeanGecko]

Based on how a line-based debossed ceramic molds (diamond, greek key) dye-sub print significantly better than shape-based debossed ceramic molds (cards, scrown, TinaHatCane), I would be in strong favor of either a) a web mold design, or b) a star mold design (but one that utilizes outlines depicting the stars vs using solid debossed shapes).

Using debossed solid shapes results in significantly lower-weight chips, as do using larger recessed centers (which also reduce chip-to-chip contact area, negatively affecting chip stacking stability). Personally, I would not be interested in either.

Lastly, the Castle & Spear mold design is owned by @ttttubby and would require his permission.

Castle and Spear is off

 

[Nanook]

How does David hold the IP when Fremont Street owns the mold?

I'm not confident that anyone really knows.

A Google search reveals this:
In general terms, a “utility patent” protects the way an article is used and works (35 U.S.C. 101), while a “design patent” protects the way an article looks

From that definition it seems like the looks of a chip mold fall under the design patent definition. If so, this applies:

Many inventors don't realize that a design patent has a term. After the 15-year period, the patent expires. Upon expiration, you
cannot renew a patent. It simply becomes public domain.

maybe that's why casinos change chips out?

While I support being courteous to David and I would hate to see him going out of business I seriously doubt he would spend the money to defend a mold that isn't even in production. Whether or not he would be successful is an entirely different issue, but why would he?

Even if he spent the money to defend it, it's hard for me to believe that a judge/jury whatever would find that monetary damage was done to a company that doesn't even make a chip that looked anything like what they claim to be defending.

Is there a pattent attorney PCF member that actually knows for sure

 

[ngmcs8203]

Based on how a line-based debossed ceramic molds (diamond, greek key) dye-sub print significantly better than shape-based debossed ceramic molds (cards, scrown, TinaHatCane), I would be in strong favor of either a) a web mold design, or b) a star mold design (but one that utilizes outlines depicting the stars vs using solid debossed shapes).

Using debossed solid shapes results in significantly lower-weight chips, as do using larger recessed centers (which also reduce chip-to-chip contact area, negatively affecting chip stacking stability). Personally, I would not be interested in either.

Lastly, the Castle & Spear mold design is owned by @ttttubby and would require his permission.

If you care at all about spinners, you’re going to want the hybrid.

 

[Nanook]

If you care at all about spinners, you’re going to want the hybrid.

For sure 100%

These Hybrids stack sooooo much better than the other China ceramics.

It's like the difference between old leaded THC's that "stack like bricks" vs the new wobbly janky ones

 

[SeanGecko]

Poll is live.

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