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Tales from the Hitching Post (4 Viewers)

Mr Tree said:
Tommy, still getting the same error message when I try to edit the original post in this one. Was trying to PM you, but it's getting returned to me because your mailbox is full [emoji1]
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Sorry in wrong thread, supposed to be in my tee shirt thread.
 
Ok, so I love my gaming suede but I am officially a SSC convert now. It's like dealing cards on an air hockey table.

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Suited speed cloth is the bomb for self dealt games. The only thing that would be better would be a cloth with SSC in the center, with a gaming suede racetrack (flush with the SSC of course. Since This would be a sewing / padding logistical nightmare, I doubt it will ever be done - but it is possible. :cool:
 
Poker Zombie said:
Suited speed cloth is the bomb for self dealt games. The only thing that would be better would be a cloth with SSC in the center, with a gaming suede racetrack (flush with the SSC of course. Since This would be a sewing / padding logistical nightmare, I doubt it will ever be done - but it is possible. :cool:
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That's a hell of a concept. Custom cloth with the outside layer being a standard racetrack's depth worth of gaming felt and then the interior being SSC?

Comfortable padded felt under your hands and the cards would glide across the table to come to a perfect stop on the gaming felt surface. Would literally be the perfect table surface.
 
Poker Zombie said:
Suited speed cloth is the bomb for self dealt games. The only thing that would be better would be a cloth with SSC in the center, with a gaming suede racetrack (flush with the SSC of course. Since This would be a sewing / padding logistical nightmare, I doubt it will ever be done - but it is possible. :cool:
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Mr Tree said:
That's a hell of a concept. Custom cloth with the outside layer being a standard racetrack's depth worth of gaming felt and then the interior being SSC?

Comfortable padded felt under your hands and the cards would glide across the table to come to a perfect stop on the gaming felt surface. Would literally be the perfect table surface.
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agreed genius and i don't think it would even be that difficult to do. guinness used to have a table (inherited from 99%Evil, i think) that had such an arrangement with two different colored felts. it was constructed for looks, but there were no issues with it that i recall and it seems that someone with a fine touch would be able to do the same with SSC and gaming suede.
 
The biggest issue would be with a seam, especially on a firm fabric like SSC. If the seam fell into a crease in the foam, then it could be hidden, but otherwise there would be a slight bump. It would be interesting to dissect Guinness's table to see if it has a sewn seam, or if it was bonded with an iron-on stabiliser.
 
Poker Zombie said:
The biggest issue would be with a seam, especially on a firm fabric like SSC. If the seam fell into a crease in the foam, then it could be hidden, but otherwise there would be a slight bump. It would be interesting to dissect Guinness's table to see if it has a sewn seam, or if it was bonded with an iron-on stabiliser.
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The way I've seen a double fabric racetrack proposed/built is to actually split the table surface at the boundary, with a hard edge under both cloths. Here's the technique you use for a cloth to wood racetrack transition:

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Instead of the wood racetrack, you just have another piece with foam and a rigid edge band butted against it, wrapped in the suede. You have to be really tight on your gap measurement, but if you use a router in one pass from a single piece of ply, it should work out right. Just account for the width of the bit to be equal to two spacer strips and two layers of cloth. You'll be able to feel the hard spacers, but the cards should glide right over and stop on the suede.
 
I see where you are coming from. In theory it is possible, but I still doubt I will ever see it pulled off. I know I don't have that level of skill/exact tolerance. If Chanman or BBO aren't doing it, I'm guessing there's a reason (other than they never thought of it - until now).
 
I think this is Chanman's pic, actually. I'm sure he'll weigh in eventually:

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Poker Zombie said:
If Chanman or BBO aren't doing it, I'm guessing there's a reason (other than they never thought of it - until now).
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If I was a gambling man (lol) I would take the over on they never thought or cared enough to try.
 
A place that nice I am surprised you all self deal..... Are there not any dealers around for the tournaments you all have ?
 
TheDeezer said:
A place that nice I am surprised you all self deal..... Are there not any dealers around for the tournaments you all have ?
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No, no casinos for a long drive around the Atlanta area unfortunately. [emoji21]
 
Building a racetrack table where the racetrack is foam/fabric covered (to contrast with the center playing surface) is pretty easy. I've built a couple, as have a few other people around here.

Imo, it offers the best of both worlds -- a level all-fabric surface, with the high-contrast visual advantages of a racetrack (without the wooden clunkiness). Of course, you can do something similar with a custom-printed cloth, too - but usually at a much higher expense.
 
Poker Zombie said:
Suited speed cloth is the bomb for self dealt games. The only thing that would be better would be a cloth with SSC in the center, with a gaming suede racetrack (flush with the SSC of course. Since This would be a sewing / padding logistical nightmare, I doubt it will ever be done - but it is possible. :cool:

The biggest issue would be with a seam, especially on a firm fabric like SSC. If the seam fell into a crease in the foam, then it could be hidden, but otherwise there would be a slight bump. It would be interesting to dissect Guinness's table to see if it has a sewn seam, or if it was bonded with an iron-on stabiliser.

I still doubt I will ever see it pulled off. I know I don't have that level of skill/exact tolerance. If Chanman or BBO aren't doing it, I'm guessing there's a reason (other than they never thought of it - until now).
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Mr Tree said:
If I was a gambling man (lol) I would take the over on they never thought or cared enough to try.
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BGinGA said:
Building a racetrack table where the racetrack is foam/fabric covered (to contrast with the center playing surface) is pretty easy. I've built a couple, as have a few other people around here.

Imo, it offers the best of both worlds -- a level all-fabric surface, with the high-contrast visual advantages of a racetrack (without the wooden clunkiness). Of course, you can do something similar with a custom-printed cloth, too - but usually at a much higher expense.
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RagsPoker posted pics of the inverse of the above-described (i.e., SSC racetrack and suede center rather than the other way round) table in another thread.

looks fantastic imo. i would still prefer the SSC with the suede racetrack, though, for the sake of my fingertip skin which is always mangled after shuffling chips on SSC for 8+ hours.

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Fascinating. I wonder why he went with the SSC for the rail. Obvious it can be done.
 
I don't think that table construction used hardboard/plastic strip borders between the racetrack and center area -- note the sloping "V" under the chips between the two surfaces....

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BGinGA said:
I don't think that table construction used hardboard/plastic strip borders between the racetrack and center area -- note the sloping "V" under the chips between the two surfaces....
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yeah there is obviously a pitch there. for my purposes, i wouldn't be concerned with it. my only interest is a table with the air-hockey-table-like qualities of SSC and fingertip-saving qualities of suede. and if there's any very slight height differential, i'd be glad to see it as above where the racetrack is very slightly lower so that when the cards are dealt they don't flip against an upturned lip.

anyway, i was glad to see the pictures - it's obviously not an enormously complex undertaking.
 
The v that BG pointed out is probably the result of the design aspect that atomik described. If the gap was small enough, or the stacks were "Paulson stable" they there shouldn't be any problem sliding large stacks in. I was imagining something where there would be no gap or bump by sewing the SSC and the gaming suede together, with a single piece of underlying foam, then cutting a notch in the foam where the seam could lie in, giving a flush feel on top.

It is odd that someone did build that awesome table, but in the inverse of what would work best for dealing/comfort.
 
Yeah I am at a total loss why you would use SSC for the rail as well
 
The rail is vinyl. The racetrack is SSC.

The "V" is a result of simply upholstering both the playing surface and adjoining racetrack areas normally without the use of edging to eliminate the "V". Half of that "V" occurs with every flush racetrack table ever built, unless it used edging on the playing surface outer diameter to avoid it.
 
Well, SSC does wear better than gaming cloth, even if it is rougher on the skin. There is an argument for using (custom-printed) gaming cloth in the center and more-durable SSC on the racetrack (which faces more wear). Function over comfort?
 
In this case I would argue it is more a case of durability over function as I think the table would function better the other way around
 

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