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The Official RPC Showcase thread (2 Viewers)

JMC9389 said:
Please.

GPI/Angel has no leg to stand on if they try to sue a casino or card room for selling them gaming equipment for a "special event" or "High Roller" area, for example, and once said event occurs or if the high roller area never opens or fizzles out due to lack of interest, that casino turns around and auctions off or sells the equipment to the highest bidder in a state in which the gaming commission allows it. The same could be true for a locale that buys equipment but never opens a la Jack Detroit.

Are they going to sue Jim at the Chip Room, and all others that buy defunct chips and equipment and then resell it publicly for buying property a casino or card room bought but is no longer using?
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What The Chip Room does is completely different from these NAGB. We do everything within the law and regulations of the local gaming commissions. The RPC chips were purchased under fraudulent pretenses. They were never intended for play in the casino. We conduct our sales in the open, not under cover and NDA's. Don't drag us into any comparisons to these NAGB.
 
Cord said:
Greatest cali $5 to date?

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Sweet mother of god. Can we please get pics like this of every denomination? lol
 
TheChipRoom said:
What The Chip Room does is completely different from these NAGB. We do everything within the law and regulations of the local gaming commissions. The RPC chips were purchased under fraudulent pretenses. They were never intended for play in the casino. We conduct our sales in the open, not under cover and NDA's. Don't drag us into any comparisons to these NAGB.
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I think my point is being misunderstood here. My point is that GPI/Angel does not have a case to pursue legal action in a situation where their chips and equipment fall into hands other than a casino. What's stopping a willing card room or casino manager from hooking up a friend with the intent of giving them the chips, though on the record, they're buying from GPI for their own "VIP Room" or "private event"?

I may not have been here long, and I have no first hand knowledge of it happening, but let's not bury our heads in the sand. Exactly this has happened already, or it's been strongly insinuated as such.

I'm not at all comparing your business to these "private buys" (I refuse to call them NAGB's). I'm aware that your business operates well within legal bounds. My main point is that GPI/Angel suing a casino or card room for having their assets fall into hands other than that entity would be akin to suing The Chip Room. The idea of it is preposterous and what was being discussed at that time in this thread.

You're providing an excellent service to this community and hobby by bringing more chips into it when demand is at an all time high. As a multiple and repeat happy customer myself, the last thing I want to do is to antagonize someone that spends a lot of time and money to make it happen. I apologize if my post was construed in a way that I lumped you in with these other expidentures. That was not my intention.
 
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JMC9389 said:
I think my point is being misunderstood here. My point is that GPI/Angel does not have a case to pursue legal action in a situation where their chips and equipment fall into hands other than a casino. What's stopping a willing card room or casino manager from hooking up a friend with the intent of giving them the chips, though on the record, they're buying from GPI for their own "VIP Room" or "private event".

I may not have been here long, and I have no first hand knowledge of it happening, but let's not bury our heads in the sand. Exactly this has happened already, or it's been trongly insinuated as such.

I'm not at all comparing your business to these "private buys" (I refuse to call them NAGB's). I'm aware that your business operates well within legal bounds. My main point is that GPI/Angel suing a casino or card room for having their assets fall into hands other than that entity would be akin to suing The Chip Room. The idea of it is preposterous and what was being discussed at that time in this thread.

You're providing an excellent service to this community and hobby by bringing more chips into it when demand is at an all time high. As a multiple and repeat happy customer myself, the last thing I want to do is to antagonize someone that spends a lot of time and money to make it happen. Again, I apologize if my post was construed in a way that I lumped you in with these other expidentures. That was not my intention.
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I think you’re probably wrong. It’s safe to say these NAGB chips are obtained with some measure of fraud. That right there makes it completely different.

If you want to question the legitimacy of GPI’s security interests in not producing chips for the public, when there are ways the public can obtain chips from closed casinos, that’s a different story. Go right ahead - cool conversation. But it’s a different conversation.
 
I wonder if the future of casino chips lies in the ‘leasing’ of chips from GPI.
Then they would still own them and can dictate what happens to them.
Other than that ever happening they have as much legal recourse in pursuing non casino ventures buying chips as Marvin windows has of taking me to court because I said I was a contractor to get a discount.

Of course. I paint houses for a living so take my opinion as just that. Just my opinion.
 
You can have deception without fraud.
But not fraud without deception

Proving these ‘ventures’ are fraudulent doesn’t seem cut and dry

GPI make and sell a product. Their policy is to not sell to non casinos.
People found a way to bypass company policy in acquiring this product. Paying for the product at GPIs pricing
Was deception used in almost all the ventures?
Absolutely.
Was it fraudulent? Each venture may be different
 
upNdown said:
I think you’re probably wrong. It’s safe to say these NAGB chips are obtained with some measure of fraud. That right there makes it completely different.

If you want to question the legitimacy of GPI’s security interests in not producing chips for the public, when there are ways the public can obtain chips from closed casinos, that’s a different story. Go right ahead - cool conversation. But it’s a different conversation.
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Agree that this isn't the time or the place to have this debate. I have no law background whatsoever so it's not really my place to say that something is/isn't legal. That said, GPI doesn't sell to the public because of their private business policies. As has been stated already, buy organizers are not duping the government or federal reserve here.

Carry on.
 
MatB said:
Oh shit. I just realized I’ve entered the ‘fraud /NaGB/ legality legal’ debate arena.

I think I’ve made a horrible mistake. …


I’m out. Good luck

Great chips.

Peace !!
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Me too. Happy and safe holidays to all!
 
MatB said:
You can have deception without fraud.
But not fraud without deception

Proving these ‘ventures’ are fraudulent doesn’t seem cut and dry

GPI make and sell a product. Their policy is to not sell to non casinos.
People found a way to bypass company policy in acquiring this product. Paying for the product at GPIs pricing
Was deception used in almost all the ventures?
Absolutely.
Was it fraudulent? Each venture may be different
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I’m no contract law specialist, but I feel comfortable saying that deception within a contract IS fraud. Or at the very least, it’s grounds for a lawsuit.
 
upNdown said:
I’m no contract law specialist, but I feel comfortable saying that deception within a contract IS fraud. Or at the very least, it’s grounds for a lawsuit.
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So you think Marvin Windows could come for me?

Plus who’s to say these weren’t all intended for a casino. One that didn’t open.

I can find a lawyer who’ll defend me.

ITs All Good Man


Shit. I’m doing it again.

Out for real this time
 
MatB said:
So you think Marvin Windows could come for me?

Plus who’s to say these weren’t all intended for a casino. One that didn’t open.

I can find a lawyer who’ll defend me.

ITs All Good Man


Shit. I’m doing it again.

Out for real this time
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Rest easy my friend, I'm pretty sure Marvin Windows has better things to do than chase down some cheapskate who got a discount on 20 windows.
 
JMC9389 said:
Please.

GPI/Angel has no leg to stand on if they try to sue a casino or card room for selling them gaming equipment for a "special event" or "High Roller" area, for example, and once said event occurs or if the high roller area never opens or fizzles out due to lack of interest, that casino turns around and auctions off or sells the equipment to the highest bidder in a state in which the gaming commission allows it. The same could be true for a locale that buys equipment but never opens a la Jack Detroit.

Are they going to sue Jim at the Chip Room, and all others that buy defunct chips and equipment and then resell it publicly for buying property a casino or card room bought but is no longer using?
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You truly have no clue.
Get educated before you speak about Jim,

Thanks,
Everyone
 
upNdown said:
I’m no contract law specialist, but I feel comfortable saying that deception within a contract IS fraud. Or at the very least, it’s grounds for a lawsuit.
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What people fail to realize is these are a form currency not just chips. Any approval and subsequent sale of these chips should have gone through the local gaming commission. If they did not, the property could be in legal jeopardy from the gaming commission. Not to mention the reputational damage to GPI. Hense the secrecy and NDA's from the participants.
 
JMC9389 said:
See my post 1024 above. Where the hell is everyone getting the idea I'm badmouthing Jim?
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It's the piling on syndrome. You'll have the first guy not able to comprehend what was first written and he'll attack. Then it snowballs as other people read the ensuing replies and have preconceived notions when they finally scroll up and read the original quoted post.

Comprehension skills are really lacking amongst many members on this forum.
 
TheDuke said:
It's the piling on syndrome. You'll have the first guy not able to comprehend what was first written and he'll attack. Then it snowballs as other people read the ensuing replies and have preconceived notions when they finally scroll up and read the original quoted post.

Comprehension skills are really lacking amongst many members on this forum.
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Yeah well, I'm not used to having so many keys to press and get flustered and start pressing them all.

So many buttons!!!!!
 
Josh Kifer said:
I have a degree in Bird Law, and I decree, @TheChipRoom is a good dude and shouldn't be wrapped up in this bullcrap.

Let's shave @JMC9389s head as punishment.

The defense rests.
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Joke's on you, I'm already balding so you're doing me a favor!
 
Josh Kifer said:
I have a degree in Bird Law, and I decree, @TheChipRoom is a good dude and shouldn't be wrapped up in this bullcrap.

Let's shave @JMC9389s head as punishment.

The defense rests.
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Bird law episodes may be the best IASIP episodes ever. That and when Charlie works in the mailroom and attempts to uncover a conspiracy.

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