Ultrasonic Chip Cleaning (20 Viewers)

[courage]

@bivey

That's similar to the one i have but slightly less power. It should do fine but they make the same version with a side drain valve which is nice. You should be able to find it for about $10 more.

 

[inca911]

Looking for an ultrasonic cleaner to help with PBCL chips. The hornady is discontinued and only a couple on eBay. anyone have experience or comments about:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281725340547?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Quite a bit cheaper, but if it won't get the job done, then what's the point? It has 120W of ultrasonic power.

@inca911 what kind do you have?

Bert,
Post #164 has a link to the 6L version I bought on eBay with the drain valve for $150. I wouldn't want to deal with a much smaller version than that. It has done a great job for both @Mr. Cheese and me. I definitely recommend it based on cleaning results. More pics are also posted of it elsewhere in this thread.

Edit: I bought the same one Chris @courage owned, which has been proven to work miracles.

 

[bivey]

@bivey

That's similar to the one i have but slightly less power. It should do fine but they make the same version with a side drain valve which is nice. You should be able to find it for about $10 more.

Bret,
Post #164 has a link to the 6L version I bought on eBay with the drain valve for $150. I wouldn't want to deal with a much smaller version than that. It has done a great job for both @Mr. Cheese and me. I definitely recommend it based on cleaning results.

Thank you gentlemen.

 

[bivey]

Bam. 180W, 6L, ordered. My smaller u/s wasn't cutting it.

 

[courage]

One tip on those models: silicone the holes shut in the handles. When cleaning, water can splash and drip down onto the circuit board and temporarily bring things to a halt.

 

[bivey]

Set up a cheap ($1.67 + tax) chip rinser today. About 10 small holes drilled into the bottom and a light trickle from the faucet and the TSP or oxy or whatever will be rinsed away and hands are free to keep cleaning chips with no delay for rinse time. Drill homes to suit your needs. If bucket doesn't hold on faucet, a couple of blocks can be used in sink to keep holes from plugging. I used this an experiment to learn about pressure. Eventually the bucket reaches a steady state.

 

[bivey]

@courage deserves a thumbs up. Drain on the new u/s works like a charm. Followed OP recipe except only had real TSP on hand. Chips turning out great. Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

 

[jja412]

Has anyone done any ultrasonic work on BCC chips? I have a few that need some cleaning, and an ultrasonic on order to clean a bunch of Paulsons. Just wondering if I need to be the one to destroy some BCCs in order to figure it out.

 

[David O]

From what I recall someone said not to use TSP or the TSP alternative to clean BCC chips. You surely want to only test on one chip!

David

 

[Gear]

From what I recall someone said not to use TSP or the TSP alternative to clean BCC chips. You surely want to only test on one chip!

That's definitely true for ASM/CPC chips -- do NOT use TSP, as it will begin to dissolve the chip. Not sure about BCC though.

 

[ChaosRock]

Has anyone done any ultrasonic work on BCC chips? I have a few that need some cleaning, and an ultrasonic on order to clean a bunch of Paulsons. Just wondering if I need to be the one to destroy some BCCs in order to figure it out.

I have used USC and TSP on BCC chips without any issues whatsoever... However, had some big issues with ASM chips, because of the TSP not the USC...

I still have to experiment with Paulson hot stamps on the USC+TSP... I know there's mixed results and many cases the hot stamps go caput... I just want to find the set spot, if there is one, so that it's safe to clean HS with TSP, time-wise I mean... There must be a way of cleaning HS without spending countless hours scrubbing them...

* You beat me to it Chris (y) :thumbsup:

 

[Psypher1000]

I still have to experiment with Paulson hot stamps on the USC+TSP

I have used the USC with the fake TSP on thousands of Paulson hotstamps and none of them have been eroded. Some of them may have been very slightly faded, but they all seemed generally intact.

With real TSP...not sure.

 

[ChaosRock]

I have used the USC with the fake TSP on thousands of Paulson hotstamps and none of them have been eroded. Some of them may have been very slightly faded, but they all seemed generally intact.

With real TSP...not sure.

Awesome to know!! Do you remember how long you left the chips in there?

I'll try with the fake TSP... I have some experience with real TSP, without USC, on hot stamps and it's sort of a crap shoot if the stamps will come off or not...

 

[12thMan]

Someone put a CPC chip in tsp and post pictures, I want to see what it does.

 

[David O]

I used the tsp alternative on all of the PD chips I had. I ran them around 100 degrees Fahrenheit for about a minute to a minute and a half with no problems with the hot stamps. As always test one before yo do more!

 

[Gear]

Someone put a CPC chip in tsp and post pictures, I want to see what it does.

#chiptorturepr0n

 

[Tommy]

Has anyone cleaned Bud Jones this way? I don't care about the labels, they are coming off anyway.

 

[justsomedude]

Has anyone cleaned Bud Jones this way? I don't care about the labels, they are coming off anyway.

Hmmm... That's a good question. I wonder if they'd lose a bit of their "sheen."

 

[Psypher1000]

Awesome to know!! Do you remember how long you left the chips in there?..

It varied by grime level. Most were 30-60 seconds. The worst offenders got a full 90 seconds.

 

[justsomedude]

It varied by grime level. Most were 30-60 seconds. The worst offenders got a full 90 seconds.

FWIW... I had to soak my Orleans for a full 2 min with TSP at 43-C. They were incredibly soiled. and the 30, 60, and 90 second trials just didn't cut it, and required 2nd runs.

 

[bivey]

I've been going 2 min with real TSP for the PBCLs.

 

[ChaosRock]

I've been going 2 min with real TSP for the PBCLs.

That's kinda of what I have been doing also Bert... I never got the 40 second results with real TSP... I've have yet to try the fake TSP and I have a feeling that might drive bath time down a bit...

 

[justsomedude]

My 2min time is with the fake TSP.

 

[BGinGA]

I have some experience with real TSP, without USC, on hot stamps and it's sort of a crap shoot if the stamps will come off or not...

Yeah, that's my experience as well. Some hot-stamps show no damage, others turn from gold to a tarnished silver color, and others dissolve almost completely.

 

[chkmte]

Hey guys,

After reading through this very lengthy thread, I ordered a Stainless Steel 6 L Liter Industry Heated Ultrasonic Cleaner Heater w/Timer off of that auction site. I plan to use it on Paulson chips I have and will have (mostly hotstamps).

My question is... What else should I need as far as chemicals go? I'm a little confused.

Thanks in advance.
- Tim

 

[Shaggy]

It's all in post 1. Ski did extensive testing before he wrote the procedure.

But to answer your question, you need "TSP"... The fake kind... Chemically it is Sodium Metisilicate

http://www.amazon.com/Lundmark-TSP-Hard-Surface-Cleaner/dp/B001001VRA/?tag=pokchifor0d-20

 

[justsomedude]

My question is... What else should I need as far as chemicals go? I'm a little confused.

Stock up on some hydrogen dioxide.

 

[chkmte]

It's all in post 1. Ski did extensive testing before he wrote the procedure.

But to answer your question, you need "TSP"... The fake kind... Chemically it is Sodium Metisilicate

http://www.amazon.com/Lundmark-TSP-Hard-Surface-Cleaner/dp/B001001VRA/?tag=pokchifor0d-20

Thank you. There just seemed to be a lot of going back-and-forth depending on the type of chip to be cleaned. I'll start with this...thanks again!

 

[inca911]

Stock up on some hydrogen dioxide.

Dihydrogen oxide = 2H and 1O = H2O

I use Distilled Water, to eliminate impurities from tap water.

 

[jja412]

Got my Ultrasonic off eBay yesterday, cleaned 690 chips today in about 2 hours. Everything worked great...thanks again, Ski (and all other contributors), for a great thread and all your time perfecting the approach. My chips have never been cleaner, and it took a lot less labor than individual scrubbing and Oxy baths.