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What are your chipping goals? When do you reach your "chipping nirvana" ? (10 Viewers)

I’ve got my Truman’s House Paulson big bet and limit cash sets. I got a Tina Mold Chinese-thing Aria tourney set out of necessity - I don’t have any real attachment to it. My ASM Truman’s House chips are great and I spread them periodically. I’m building a set of mixed Paulson casino $1s for a limit set but it’s likely I’ll eventually sell them.

The only sets I still really want to build are the old ones that I’ve always adored:

- Vineyard Cash Set
- PNY Cash Set
- Spotted Aztar Hotstamp Tourney Set
- Ritz Tourney Set

If I had those I don’t think I’d be interested in any other sets unless the Chiproom came along with something remarkable. Both of the Truman’s House chips aren’t going anywhere. Really have always wanted a limit Vineyard set. (Sigh)
 
khp said:
This thread was recently bumped and my post received a new reaction, reminding me of it and giving me a moment to reflect.

I’m still sitting on only the cards mold set and I’m glad I took my time because it seems that prices have come down and in the interim I’ve had a chance to play some CPCs, RHCs, THCs, and house mold chips at other games. Playing the sets has given me a more useful feel than shuffling a sample stack. I came away with new and probably controversial perspectives:
  • THC looks better than RHC, but only minutely
  • THC and RHC feel different, and I can’t say one is better or worse. They’re just different
  • House molds are actually way cooler than I thought they would be. A debossed name that points to a specific property is quite a bit more charming than a border of hats and canes (a tad random and cheesy)
  • House molds also feel different, and again, I can’t say better or worse. Just different
  • CPCs feel worse. The ones I handled felt light and rough. Some may prefer that texture though.
  • When playing, none of the above matters. At all. The difference in feel between THC, RHC, house molds, CPC, and ceramics is insignificant and forgotten after a shuffle.

Despite all that, I still might want to add one 500-600 chip clay cash set of THC, RHC, or house molds. Perhaps even a mixed set, something I thought I would be dead set against. No rush though. Maybe prices will become even more attractive.

I’m also now a bit curious about high-end plastics. I commonly find posts stating they’re too slippery, but I’m sceptical now after reading so many posts exaggerating the difference between THC and RHC.
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Oh yea, playing around with chip quantities, I like the @detroitdad special of 100/200/200/80/20. If I go with 500, perhaps then 100/200/200.
 
khp said:
I’m also now a bit curious about high-end plastics. I commonly find posts stating they’re too slippery, but I’m sceptical now after reading so many posts exaggerating the difference between THC and RHC.
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This is also subjective obviously but I have tried the following:

- Matsui Radisson Aruba. Quite liked the feel and how they shuffled but they were way too slippery for my taste.

- Had a barrel of mint Abiattis to try out. Amazing colors, better feel than the Matsuis but still too slippery.

- Casino used Abiattis. Fogetaboutit, superslippery to the point of unusable.

- Bud Jones Yakama legends. Less slippery, but hard to shuffle (I can shuffle, alright?). They had a suction that made them stick together and it annoyed the hell out of me.

- B&G new. Not slippery, some sort of texture that makes them super great to stack and still shuffles great. Too heavy for my taste though.

- B&G used. More slippery but still acceptable. Weight problem remains of course.
 
bergs said:
The only sets I still really want to build are the old ones that I’ve always adored:

- Vineyard Cash Set
- PNY Cash Set
- Spotted Aztar Hotstamp Tourney Set
- Ritz Tourney Set
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I’d say I agree on 3 of 4 there
Good choices

Luckily I was able to dig up one a few years ago / RITZ

I’d replace PNY with Olivia since I have the fracs for it
Have the 50c / $100s for the Vineyards

Aztar if I had endless money could have won on auction a year ago or so here
 
bergs said:
I’ve got my Truman’s House Paulson big bet and limit cash sets. I got a Tina Mold Chinese-thing Aria tourney set out of necessity - I don’t have any real attachment to it. My ASM Truman’s House chips are great and I spread them periodically. I’m building a set of mixed Paulson casino $1s for a limit set but it’s likely I’ll eventually sell them.

The only sets I still really want to build are the old ones that I’ve always adored:

- Vineyard Cash Set
- PNY Cash Set
- Spotted Aztar Hotstamp Tourney Set
- Ritz Tourney Set

If I had those I don’t think I’d be interested in any other sets unless the Chiproom came along with something remarkable. Both of the Truman’s House chips aren’t going anywhere. Really have always wanted a limit Vineyard set. (Sigh)
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Absolutely love the hotstamp Aztars
They changed hands last year, not sure where they ended up
 
HaRDHouSeiNC said:
Ryan auctioned them
I think was a Canadian buyer
I tapped out at a price I knew wouldn’t win but hey
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Those Aztar HS tourney chips are amazing... wasn't really in our price range so we went with what I call second place to those... probably controversial also, but the Lady Luck HS tourney chips are no slouch... well the 500 definitely could have used a bit more WOW bit still all around awesome set.
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Wesold the T5s a while back, we don't really play T5 based much and already have custom bounties.

Rack pictures do them zero justice
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They went with a smaller stamp on the 5k no idea why, but those Lemons are beautiful in person. Never going to be the Aztars but we are happy with them.

@khp you are correct that non chippers don't really care once the cards are flying... but for chippers we definitely notice the difference! And we have a lot of chippers in our local games. It is a social statement... but then again does anyone really need a Ferrari or a Rolex? Pick what's important to you and go with it. I have never seen anyone in this hobby tell someone their chip choices are wrong. Many here still play in games using dice chips... they will get the job done, but if someone has minty leaded shaped inlay THCs on the next table over... I am moving! Lol

I hope you give CPCs a chance to get past the break in period. They are definitely sharp and rough off the break but it doesn't take tool long to break in those edges and they quickly becoming amazing. More dense IMO that paulsons and will hold up better over time. Also guessing you tried A mold or even Bmold chips, they are very textured, almost too kick for many of us. Give the new Scrowns, CSQ, MD-50 or H molds a chance before you scratch them off the list entirely.
 
upNdown said:
1A and 1B. Seriously. The Aztars just stood alone for so many years that people want to make them a little goatier than maybe they really are. The Lady Lucks are just as good IMO, and frankly, they have a better name.
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Spotted HS casino used Tourney sets are pretty rare, I think to spot patterns on the Aztar is superior, love the colors and really everything about them. Seems like so many casinos just go the easy route and buy solids for tourney chips these days... man some of those older THC NCV chips would be amazing in quantity and a "firm tip of the hat" to those who are trying to put a playable set of those back together... but definitely not enough to go around.

Heck from my understanding there were only 9 - 10 of the 10k Lady Luck sets released and 7 - 8 of those sets now reside in 3 larger sets including the one we own. Far from an ideal breakdown but thankful for what we have put together on these. There was a time I debated letting go of a rack of the T25s, we really don't need more than 240 of them and they would make someone a very nice rack of relabeled quarters in an RHC set that doesn't utilize a green $25... but then again they are rare enough that we prefer just to keep them together.

Still haven't got that one on the felt and really in no rush, they are basically dead mint and so purdy we prefer to keep them a special occasion set anyways. I am afraid of what will happen the first time some one throws those chips into the pot... @FordPickup92 may rip their head off! Haha unfortunately not joking, those are her babies!!
 
khp said:
I’m also now a bit curious about high-end plastics. I commonly find posts stating they’re too slippery, but I’m sceptical now after reading so many posts exaggerating the difference between THC and RHC.
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Get one of the USA based sample sets and see for yourself. Plenty of high end plastic to compare.
 
upNdown said:
Yes, everybody should decide for themselves 100%. Out of curiosity, have you handled leaded THCs?
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Not that I know of. I’d be curious, though, but aren’t they unobtanium?
Ben8257 said:
@khp you are correct that non chippers don't really care once the cards are flying... but for chippers we definitely notice the difference! And we have a lot of chippers in our local games. It is a social statement... but then again does anyone really need a Ferrari or a Rolex? Pick what's important to you and go with it. I have never seen anyone in this hobby tell someone their chip choices are wrong. Many here still play in games using dice chips... they will get the job done, but if someone has minty leaded shaped inlay THCs on the next table over... I am moving! Lol

I hope you give CPCs a chance to get past the break in period. They are definitely sharp and rough off the break but it doesn't take tool long to break in those edges and they quickly becoming amazing. More dense IMO that paulsons and will hold up better over time. Also guessing you tried A mold or even Bmold chips, they are very textured, almost too kick for many of us. Give the new Scrowns, CSQ, MD-50 or H molds a chance before you scratch them off the list entirely.
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I was playing with chippers, who else would even have the sets I mentioned? I think if you have any THC, RHC, CPC, and heck, even cards mold or custom set, you’re automatically a chipper in my book. (Chipper defined as someone who cares way more about chips than average)

You’re really impressive that you knew the mold from my description! I think the A-mold CPC set used was played at least 10x. Still scratchy to me (relative to Paulsons). I saw close ups of the CSQ mold on this forum and they seem to have the same texture? But they’re smoother? I’d have to try it out, I guess. Good to know, thanks @Ben8257

allforcharity said:
Get one of the USA based sample sets and see for yourself. Plenty of high end plastic to compare.
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Thanks for the tip!

I gotta find a game with them. Trying them in game > sample stacks > YouTube videos > reading descriptions
 
khp said:
Not that I know of. I’d be curious, though, but aren’t they unobtanium?
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Not really, but I guess that depends on what you're looking for and your budget. Mint chips will be very expensive.
They're not making them anymore, so if that's what you mean, then yes, fair enough,
 
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khp said:
  • When playing, none of the above matters. At all. The difference in feel between THC, RHC, house molds, CPC, and ceramics is insignificant and forgotten after a shuffle.
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CrazyEddie said:
Here is great wisdom.
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HaRDHouSeiNC said:
When it comes to CPC and ceramic
NO
OMDG no
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This weekend I played in a two-table home tournament that was using sluggos. Monaco Clubs, I think - pretty nice for sluggos, but still sluggos.

As long as the cards were flying, I barely even noticed what the chips were made out of.
 
khp said:
Not that I know of. I’d be curious, though, but aren’t they unobtanium?

I was playing with chippers, who else would even have the sets I mentioned? I think if you have any THC, RHC, CPC, and heck, even cards mold or custom set, you’re automatically a chipper in my book. (Chipper defined as someone who cares way more about chips than average)

You’re really impressive that you knew the mold from my description! I think the A-mold CPC set used was played at least 10x. Still scratchy to me (relative to Paulsons). I saw close ups of the CSQ mold on this forum and they seem to have the same texture? But they’re smoother? I’d have to try it out, I guess. Good to know, thanks @Ben8257



Thanks for the tip!

I gotta find a game with them. Trying them in game > sample stacks > YouTube videos > reading descriptions
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I have had the pleasure of Playing almost all of the different molds from CPC and from your description I had a feeling it was one of the two heavy textured molds, I would also put Scroll mold in there as well... maybe one towards the smoother side.

The CPC scrowns are almost smooth, very little texture, also Lcrowns and FDL I personally think are also pretty smooth. Jockey, H mold, no mold, HHR, CSQ(personal favorite) , MD-50 or DSQ all fall somewhere in between.

Again these chips are dense, even 10 rounds of play will not break them in and be it that the set you played is probably the most textured of them all... yes the weight is lower on these chips but I hope you give them another chance down the road!
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We love ours!

I personally don't hate on any CPC molds, my least favorite is FDL and we even own a set, but many of they are totally unique feel wise... hope people don't play a single mold and choose to pass judgment over ALL of their products.

Sure we own many leaded THC/ Leaded RHC/ leaded Scrown TRKs, some people are meat and potatoes types... that's what they like ND that's all there is to it. I bought ceramics, just bought a Super Poker world, own Sunfly hybrids, BCC, hot stamps, inlays, fat hats all the way down to 36mm... all about variety for us. I don't just want nowhere leaded THC cash set with slightly different colorS, rather change everything the next time we play and provide variety. CPC will always have a spot in our rotation.
 
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CrazyEddie said:
This weekend I played in a two-table home tournament that was using sluggos. Monaco Clubs, I think - pretty nice for sluggos, but still sluggos.

As long as the cards were flying, I barely even noticed what the chips were made out of.
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Exactly! The company and the chairs/table matter more than the chips. I realised, as long as the chips are denominated you’re already way ahead of the curve. Then if you have enough chips to simulate casino stacks then you’re even further ahead.
Ben8257 said:
I have had the pleasure of Playing almost all of the different molds from CPC and from your description I had a feeling it was one of the two heavy textured molds, I would also put Scroll mold in there as well... maybe one towards the smoother side.

The CPC scrowns are almost smooth, very little texture, also Lcrowns and FDL I personally think are also pretty smooth. Jockey, H mold, no mold, HHR, CSQ(personal favorite) , MD-50 or DSQ all fall somewhere in between.

Again these chips are dense, even 10 rounds of play will not break them in and be it that the set you played is probably the most textured of them all... yes the weight is lower on these chips but I hope you give them another chance down the road!
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We love ours!

I personally don't hate on any CPC molds, my least favorite is FDL and we even own a set, but many of they are totally unique feel wise... hope people don't play a single mold and choose to pass judgment over ALL of their products.

Sure we own many leaded THC/ Leaded RHC/ leaded Scrown TRKs, some people are meat and potatoes types... that's what they like ND that's all there is to it. I bought ceramics, just bought a Super Poker world, own Sunfly hybrids, BCC, hot stamps, inlays, fat hats all the way down to 36mm... all about variety for us. I don't just want nowhere leaded THC cash set with slightly different colorS, rather change everything the next time we play and provide variety. CPC will always have a spot in our rotation.
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Cheers @Ben8257 love your positivity and passion for chips. Variety is definitely the spice of life.

To me, CPCs are great chips, as are Paulsons and ceramics. Hell, even dice chips are fantastic if they bring a group of friends together or help you make new ones.
 
My Chipping Nirvana

by FDLmold

In all my years of chipping, it has become clear to me that there are only three types of chips worth owning. A fourth option has recently emerged that can't be ignored for anybody who is budget-conscious, because the value for what you get is unmatched.

I do not host or play or enjoy tourneys, although I think a mixed tourney might be interesting. Nothing but NLHE for hours? ZZZZzzzzzzZZzzzz... So my chipping nirvana is further narrowed to cash sets only.

1A, top of the pile, is leaded Paulsons. Paulson chips made from ~1970 to ~1998, on the THC or IHC (or house) molds, are the greatest. They have no equal. And fortunately, I have reached chipping nirvana here, because I've got my Rat Rod set playable now:
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This set has the added bonus that there are still hundreds of unique singles I can (and do) find and add to the set. There is no lack of action in growing this set. It truly is my chipping nirvana. There is no reason for me to own a cash set other than this one. These singles have collected dust, or been hidden in binders (FOR SHAME!) for years or decades. They deserve to be used again! And often.

1B, is leaded TRK scrowns. I have a shuffle stack of sixteen Pick Hobson roulette chips. They are fantastic. Unfortunately, leaded TRK exist in quantities at least an order of magnitude less than leaded Paulsons, and maybe two orders of magnitude. TRK got thrown out of the Nevada market, and then Paulson made ALL the clay chips. I doubt I will ever own a set, and that is just fine. I can admire everybody else's. If I get depressed about it, I will get out 1A and quickly snap out of my first world problems.

2, is Abbiati plastic chips. If I had a desire to own a plastic cash set, they are the only choice. They are the only plastic chip with a friction factor with other chips in a stack that is greater than zero. My budget allows for only one expensive set, so 1A it is.

3, is the China Cards-mold Ceramic Chips (CCCCs). Thirty cents each! Delivered! (At least when I got mine, prices have gone up slightly.) I have a set of 1500. When I want lots of chips on the table at micro stakes, there is no better alternative.
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Chipping nirvana? I'm there, baby!
 
It's bittersweet, really.

I started on ChipTalk about 15 years ago. So many choices - I was lucky.

That was when you could still buy multiple Paulson home fantasy chip lines, BCC was still doing custom orders/group buys, and had numerous home fantasy lines. Sidepot and Hold'em Poker Chips had differing boutique proprietary fantasy lines made by Paulson and BCC. And of course, ASM was producing customs and a few fantasy lines. TRK had just gone out of business a couple years before, but the chips were still shallow in the marketplace water and obtainable.

Hold'em Poker Chips had a big (1400) BCC solid T-mold hotstamp set in electric colors for like...70c per chip, and I picked that up. My first clay set. I gave that set to my brother last year. He had given me a stock tip that resulted in a huge windfall. Last year, I used part of that windfall to get 3000 BCC Nevada Jacks for my triplet sons. I was lucky.

Back then BCC started liquidating their fantasy lines, so I picked up almost 800 Mardi Gras V1's for like...55c per. I was lucky. Today, I sold those. They almost never hit the felt. I can't justify keeping something that good looking if I didn't use them.

Right near the end before I left, I got in on ASM's last group buy, the FDL solid inlaid Royal Cardrooms. 60c per. I got a giga-tourney set at about 1400 chips for a song. I still have those, and they're my favorites. I was lucky. I got to participate in their design, and I was the one who suggested the name.

I left ChipTalk because my kids were that age where I had less time for adult toys. I wasn't there when Paulson killed their home production or when those first batches of China Clays started disintegrating. The Nevada Mold was lost in a fire. I wasn't around when BCC went out, or when Jim Blanchard shuttered ASM. MS Patton of Hold'em Poker Chips tragically passed away, his site vaporized, and the T-Mold dies were lost. ChipTalk disappeared.

My absence was for over a decade. Upon my return I found a few bright spots in my absence though. I was lucky. PCF had emerged. CPC rose out the ashes of ASM, and through them, the hallowed TRK molds were brought back to market. Two molds lost, two molds re-born.

Upon my return last year I lurked around and started hunting T-molds. In the meantime, I picked up a simple nice-sized Diecar solid hotstamp set to hold me over. Like 60c per. It still amazes me how many ASM/Borland handmade hot-stamped full clay sets like that still get passed over in the classifieds. I was lucky.

Back to those T-molds. I started PMing everyone who owned them, used to own them, anyone who had sold some, anyone who had bought them, anyone who had even mentioned them in passing on the forums. I posted want ads. I was lucky. With the help of many members here, I drummed up a big group of solids, and had them hot-stamped into a unique cash set.

And finally, since that Royal Cardroom tourney set is my fave, I bit the bullet and after more than 15 years of waiting, sent CPC an order to make a modest complimentary Royal Cardroom pies cash set. It's been almost a year. I imagine I'll get them in the next couple of months.

And when they come, I'll go. I'll be out of market. I'm older now. I want to play more. Maybe I'll go to some these meetups. Games will be the focus. Players. People.

I've been lucky. I'd rather be lucky...
 
Short answer, however much my budget is which isn't much as of now but hopefully it will increase as time goes. I look at it as right now I can only afford cheaper chips and try and be creative to make them more of a custom, obviously not very nice but ones I can call unique and my own. Hoping to some day to have a very nice personal set.
 
Thanks for the bump! I feel like there's a few folks who have been spitballing nirvana as of late...good opportunity to share some insights!!!

I personally have almost stopped buying, partially by choice partially not
 
FordPickup92 said:
I personally have almost stopped buying
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I am thinking I’m at this stage. But then..

As toothpic points out…

1. I see pretty chips.

2. If the price is reasonable (or unreasonable it seems I’m blind to prices and this ain’t a good thing) I find I’m unable to control myself.

3. I go back to 1
 

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