What is an unpopular or uncommon strategy viewpoint that you have? (1 Viewer)

[chrismurda]

Play every hand dealt.

 

[upNdown]

I usually refuse to vpip with 22.

 

[Chip1525]

The best meal to eat before a tournament is a hotdog sandwich.

 

[ekricket]

It’s not my strategy, but one I see a lot is “whose turn is it” when it’s theirs, or the even better one, when they are dealing and ask “what’s going on?”

 

[DrHoff]

In live 1/2 and 2/5 games, you're probably not calling enough.

 

[boltonguy]

I always complement fishy play. Jamming 72o preflop? “Nice hand.”

 

[CraigT78]

I think this one probably qualifies as a popular opinion on PCF.

It's a popular decision with my guys. They are always offering me a refill.

 

[Highli99]

I've never once seen a shitty player turn his game around, or any aspect of his game for that matter, because they were criticized by a stronger player.

I think it’s less about helping a bad player and more about not being annoying to that player. Fish often know how to play correctly and choose to play otherwise for fun or sweat. The “advice” is usually obvious and results oriented anyway.

Squeeze plays don’t really work anymore.

Try betting moar. Lol

 

[TheDuke]

Live games. Straddle every opportunity, especially if you can do it on the button. And bomb it. If you're gonna pay for that option use it. Loosens up the nits or gets them to leave the table. Nits are boring. Big pots are fun.

 

[ekricket]

I know it’s not popular, but I spell uncommon “uncommon”.

 

[djfayze]

I’ll say though, I’ve seen more than once a brand new fishy player with deep pockets comes into an established home game and gets berated by a regular for an idiotic call. The whale usually doesn’t come back. You should want that guy to think he’s Phil freaking Ivey so you can take his money in the long run. That’s not even to mention just the dogma of not being a dickhead

This is good advice. We’ve got a core group of players and some of them come out behind the vast majority of the time. We all tease each a lot and talk trash but I’ve started to lay off the bigger losers - don’t want them disappearing.

 

[Chip1525]

Position and stack sizes are overrated. In any given live poker situation, but particularly when heads up, the player who can shuffle more chips has the advantage.

 

[philhut]

If the games are low stakes I also like playing the odd hand without looking at my cards at all pretending they are whatever cards I imagine they are. It makes players mental sometimes and other times results in loose calls..........sometimes a sneaky peek anda "fish story" that you didnt look at all can be used as well. wow I love doing that

 

[Snapplefacts]

If the games are low stakes I also like playing the odd hand without looking at my cards at all pretending they are whatever cards I imagine they are. It makes players mental sometimes and other times results in loose calls..........sometimes a sneaky peek anda "fish story" that you didnt look at all can be used as well. wow I love doing that

Nothing better than the whole table discussing whether or not you actually looked and are lying, or if you’re just a madman

 

[upNdown]

sometimes a sneaky peek anda "fish story" that you didnt look at all can be used as well.

Okay Tony G.
I'm with Hellmuth on this one - that's a big breach of etiquette and a jerk move.

Edit - if you're playing a fun home game with friends, I guess there's room for that.

edit - (in case somebody hasn't seen this)

 

[MrCatPants]

Calling people chicken after putting out a pot size bet and taunting with "bok bok" encourages calls.

 

[TheDuke]

Okay Tony G.
I'm with Hellmuth on this one - that's a big breach of etiquette and a jerk move.
Edit - if you're playing a fun home game with friends, I guess there's room for that.

There's a local poker room that notes angling is part of cash games in their list of rules. And they encouraged it. Or at least they did. I haven't been there for quite a while.

Personally I'm ok with people trying to angle in cash games at the casino or home games. I think It's on each player to pay attention. Vast majority of people are terrible liars so angling doesn't help them at all.

 

[upNdown]

There's a local poker room that notes angling is part of cash games in their list of rules. And they encouraged it. Or at least they did. I haven't been there for quite a while.

Personally I'm ok with people trying to angle in cash games at the casino or home games. I think It's on each player to pay attention. Vast majority of people are terrible liars so angling doesn't help them at all.

I will never ever understand rule differences like this between cash and tournament. I mean, I understand the rationale behind it, I just don't understand why we baby the field like that. If a room thinks it's fine to angle, then good angling makes you a better poker player. So how is having a good poker player in a tournament unfair to the rest of the field?

 

[TheDuke]

I will never ever understand rule differences like this between cash and tournament. I mean, I understand the rationale behind it, I just don't understand why we baby the field like that. If a room thinks it's fine to angle, then good angling makes you a better poker player. So how is having a good poker player in a tournament unfair to the rest of the field?

I'd be fine with it either way.

But from my experience (in a casino setting), you have a set of players that play tournament poker exclusively. Cash game players will also play in tournaments but not alot the other way around. So these tournament players are used to a rigid rule set and expect the game to be run in a certain manner, which is fair. There are 8 casinos in the city I live in, 6 of which have poker rooms and run daily/weekly tourneys. So the tourney rules are fairly consistent. The poker room I mention is the only one that promotes/promoted angling.

Also, good cash game player does not equal good tournament player and vice versa.

 

[philhut]

There's a local poker room that notes angling is part of cash games in their list of rules. And they encouraged it. Or at least they did. I haven't been there for quite a while.

Personally I'm ok with people trying to angle in cash games at the casino or home games. I think It's on each player to pay attention. Vast majority of people are terrible liars so angling doesn't help them at all.

Yes I kind of equate it to talking smack to a linesman in football to tryt o encourage an offside move etc.... honestly if you are listening to me at the pole table know that everything I saw and do is with the goal of winning at poker.

Sometimes it pays to be someone's vest buddy, sometimes playing like a madman (actually I sneak into value posts but play it up like reckless play sometimes)...

Also if you practise and look in the mirror swallowing slightly and quickly can give off the impression of a pulsation in your neck indicating an elevated heart rate. If you can pull this off you can give the impression of bluffing anxiety when your sitting on "the nuts"

 

[Jimulacrum]

There's a local poker room that notes angling is part of cash games in their list of rules. And they encouraged it. Or at least they did. I haven't been there for quite a while.

Personally I'm ok with people trying to angle in cash games at the casino or home games. I think It's on each player to pay attention. Vast majority of people are terrible liars so angling doesn't help them at all.

If you want a cardroom to gradually become populated with nothing but skeevy regs, then this is a fine rule (or lack of rules, really).

If you want a cardroom to be in business long-term, including some semblance of growth via attracting new players, this is a horrible rule.

 

[joeyshin]

Okay Tony G.
I'm with Hellmuth on this one - that's a big breach of etiquette and a jerk move.

Edit - if you're playing a fun home game with friends, I guess there's room for that.

edit - (in case somebody hasn't seen this)

Long time ago, I had a friend do this on the river. It was the last hand of the night and me and him were both up. I had top set and board made a 4 card straight. I bet and he pushed all in. I was thinking and about to call and he said “I made the straight”. I said no way bc of how the hand played out. He said “I have the straight so save your money since you’re up for the night”. I folded and as we were cleaning he said he didn’t have it.

That was 18 years ago. He never got invited back to anyone’s game and I ran 3 games a week then. I told him “you lied to me over $15 hand, I can’t trust you anymore”.

but in all honesty, I never really like him much anyways. I just used that as the excuse to not invite him hahha.

 

[philhut]

If you practice while watching in the mirror you can practise swallowing ever so slightly so as to give the impression of a pulsation in a blood vessel to the side of your neck. this can artificially given the profession of anxiety and stress to throw of other players who are watching you for tells. I have been told I am good at it and thats several times players made judgements based on the thinking that my heart was pounding after a big bet. Sometimes this also happens for real..... lean back on your tail bone or one other tactic to stimulate a pain response, focus on the pain or start drinking water as depending on the person both can distract you and slightly lower the heart rate. At least that's what I do

 

[TheDuke]

If you want a cardroom to gradually become populated with nothing but skeevy regs, then this is a fine rule (or lack of rules, really).

If you want a cardroom to be in business long-term, including some semblance of growth via attracting new players, this is a horrible rule.

Gradually? It was full of skeevy people on opening day! Lol. It's been open for about 15-16 years so they seem to be doing fine. Although definitely not as popular the first few years it was open.

 

[upNdown]

If you practice while watching in the mirror you can practise swallowing ever so slightly so as to give the impression of a pulsation in a blood vessel to the side of your neck. this can artificially given the profession of anxiety and stress to throw of other players who are watching you for tells. I have been told I am good at it and thats several times players made judgements based on the thinking that my heart was pounding after a big bet. Sometimes this also happens for real..... lean back on your tail bone or one other tactic to stimulate a pain response, focus on the pain or start drinking water as depending on the person both can distract you and slightly lower the heart rate. At least that's what I do

I don't get this. I'm pretty sure my heart pounds when I make a big bet, whether I'm bluffing or not.

 

[Jimulacrum]

I have a few uncommon strategy beliefs:

• Hold'em is a beginners' game that has been blown way out of proportion.
• Big-bet poker is bad for the poker economy, gradually whittling it down to serious, high-skill players and only the most generous of donators. Limit betting is a far superior structure for growing the hobby and keeping good games together.
• Pocket kings are foldable preflop in NLHE.

 

[Highli99]

Calling people chicken after putting out a pot size bet and taunting with "bok bok" encourages calls.

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Many times when someone folds to a big river bet they will tell me “you’re a liar” or something similar. Their intent is to goad me into showing the bluff or goods. Rather than fall that nonsense I just look back at them and say “and you’re a coward”.

 

[Jimulacrum]

Gradually? It was full of skeevy people on opening day! Lol. It's been open for about 15-16 years so they seem to be doing fine. Although definitely not as popular the first few years it was open.

I don't doubt you can keep a game together for a while on skeevy regs alone. But your game won't grow, and any game that isn't growing is shrinking. Especially if the game across the street isn't overrun with sketchballs who chase out every other newcomer.

 

[Silver_Fiend]

Many times when someone folds to a big river bet they will tell me “you’re a liar” or something similar. Their intent is to goad me into showing the bluff or goods. Rather than fall that nonsense I just look back at them and say “and you’re a coward”.

I love people who want you to show your hand for free. Almost every game I'll have someone fold to a river bet from me and ask me to show my cards. I have a pat response for all of them, "Sorry, you gotta pay to see the cards" Its funny when they get mad. As if I'm going to give away hand selection and betting strategy for free.

 

[MrCatPants]

I love people who want you to show your hand for free. Almost every game I'll have someone fold to a river bet from me and ask me to show my cards. I have a pat response for all of them, "Sorry, you gotta pay to see the cards" Its funny when they get mad. As if I'm going to give away hand selection and betting strategy for free.

Ah the old, "If I fold, will you show?" question. I've got a guy in my game that often does that to try for a live read.