Why SB (small blind) is not used as a multi-blind frac? (1 Viewer)
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Do you mean the chip saying "SB" on it? Eh. Some of us play games with antes or the Big blind and small blind the same. I would rather have the flexibility rather than SB.
Plus I run 5c/10c and 25c/25c or 25c/50c, I don't want any confusion what the SB is for the game. X or NCV avoids that issue.
Plus I run 5c/10c and 25c/25c or 25c/50c, I don't want any confusion what the SB is for the game. X or NCV avoids that issue.
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I think it could be confusing if you were playing where the blinds are the same, eg, .50 / .50.
It would also make the terms "SB" and "Small Blind" ambiguous.
Player 4: 'I'll call the small blind'
Player 2 (who is the actual small blind): 'What?'
Player 5: 'That's not much, I'll call your small blind'
Player 6: 'I'll raise that small blind, make it six small blinds'
Player 2: 'JFC what?'
Player 3: 'Do I have to ante a small blind with my two small blinds as the big blind?'
Player 2: 'Cash me out'
Player 8: 'Who's on first?'
Button: 'Here's my small blind'
Player 7: 'You're the button, not the small blind'
It would also make the terms "SB" and "Small Blind" ambiguous.
Player 4: 'I'll call the small blind'
Player 2 (who is the actual small blind): 'What?'
Player 5: 'That's not much, I'll call your small blind'
Player 6: 'I'll raise that small blind, make it six small blinds'
Player 2: 'JFC what?'
Player 3: 'Do I have to ante a small blind with my two small blinds as the big blind?'
Player 2: 'Cash me out'
Player 8: 'Who's on first?'
Button: 'Here's my small blind'
Player 7: 'You're the button, not the small blind'
Okay, boiz, we are going up from .50/1 to 1/1 or 1/2.
I think it would be better to just say 'Okay I'm going to hand out some free cash at cash out'. With 2 racks of 'SB' on the table @ .50 that's only a hundred bucks. I'd like a seat in that game!
I mean realistically, you'd just be posting two 'SB' if you do that, but now it defeats the purpose of using 'SB'
I could substitute X or NCV in these same phrases with the same confusion, NCV is not actually accurate in a cash game because it does have a determined value?
You couldn't, because X or NCV doesn't have a vernacular as a game mechanic.
NCV is no cash value, you can give it an assigned value, which would not conflict with another aspect of the game because it doesn't share a name space.
NCV doesn't bother me all that much, and I don't often run tournaments, players don't care so long as your cash it out lol
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Presumably you are still putting in the same amount of X or NCV chips, no?
You still tell the players that the blinds are ../..?
So they still have to remember what X or NCV is worth.
ok, in that sense I can see that
thank you, this is a good point, but you still have this issue with X or ND and you want to up stakes
You still have the same issue when using X or ND.
Well I was thinking the first denom would be 50c and the non denom chip to cover all below that, maybe not the most efficient but covers off a lot of different lower stakes.
okay so now you're moving into design and or chip breakdown.
I've gone with two non-denominational values.
I started with one frac just has the same image on both sides.
I have added on another frac and it will a different image.
I currently use my frac as a .50 I also wanted to be able to play smaller stakes, so I'll have a pink chip soon I hope.
The black chip is a 20, so in a game like 2/5, I can drop the black chip, put in the green chip as a 25 as the lowest denom would be the blue 1.
Having 2 non denoms will let me play .05/.25 or .10/.5
The X for example makes it more versatile.
You can use it as frac or highest denom chip.
Orherwise nothing is more practical than a clear denom on the chip, to avoid any confusion.
You can use it as frac or highest denom chip.
Orherwise nothing is more practical than a clear denom on the chip, to avoid any confusion.
I get this too.
I don't see games I host upping stakes during the game.
I wouldn't like putting 2 SB chips in to make a small blind either.
Yeah, for that set that you have built, designed and love it makes sense.
Nice set btw.
This isn't a custom set on that level and for me one non denom chip is preferable.
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ekricket
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Why doesn’t cash just use a BB ante and make it the workhorse chip. For instance if you are playing 1/2 and the workhorse is the $5 the BB ante is $5 and that’s it.
No need for fracs or extra racks of chips.
No need for fracs or extra racks of chips.
I have all denominated chips except one which I label as AV. That means "assigned value". I can use it as a small blind chip as you say, for a micro denom but it also gives me the flexibility to use it as something other than just a small blind chip. I can use it to fill an any gaps that I don't have denominated chips for like .05, $2, $500, or anything I need. I think you get the idea. Using "SB" limits the use of that chip when you could get a lot more versatility by using "AV". I just announce at the beginning of the game what AV is worth, the rest of the chips are denominated.
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Unless as a "chip freak" you really WANT another set, you can save the cost of a second set by just using the AV chip in your first set. So from what you said here, hosting .05/.10 you can use the AV as the nickel. Other denominated chips can be .25 (or .50) $1, $5, $20 and so on. If you decide to play higher stakes, you can then use the AV as another value, such as $100 or whatever you need. I find that just one rack of AV chips does the job.
Gear hit the nail on the head. It should be Cash Value For Whatever Your Nitty Game Needs, or CVFWYNGN chip.
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