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[Zajac]

I lost a big pot at my home game a sent this to all my buddies…

 

[ekricket]

Something meaningful in a garbage thread? You feel like your worth more than a meme?

Lol stop.

 

[Himewad]

That was the weirdest slap ever. He’s leaning back like he’s afraid of retaliation. From wee Chris Rock. And the straight arm follow through looks so fake.

 

[chrismurda]

That was the weirdest slap ever. He’s leaning back like he’s afraid of retaliation. From wee Chris Rock. And the straight arm follow through looks so fake.

Will Smith trained in boxing not slapping for his role in Ali, amirite?

 

[Anthony Martino]

That was the weirdest slap ever. He’s leaning back like he’s afraid of retaliation. From wee Chris Rock. And the straight arm follow through looks so fake.

He better be afraid, Chris Rock held it down in CB4

 

[chrismurda]

Happier times.

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

LOL at the uselessness of Hollywood

First he laughed at the joke
Then got upset when he saw the wife’s face

I’m curious he doesn’t have a problem with her and other men doing stuff
Potential things in her mouth

But her name out of his mouth

Ok got it

This is ehh no one cares what Hollywood does or says
They are all useless people

 

[Poker Zombie]

I think people are overreacting. It was an open-handed slap.

Would Smith made the attack against a woman? Against someone he didn't know? I doubt it. I've seen much worse fights in the firehall. Men do men things.

Say stupid things, get stupid backlash. It's what men do sometimes. I can't condone it - it's stupid. It happens anyway.

It's not for security, or the police, or anyone else to care about. Could Rock have pressed charges, maybe. But he also realized that he had stepped out of line. Five previous presenters that made jokes at Smith's expense. Chris Rock was one bridge too far, and a bridge that Will Smith could defend - so he did.

I'll bet that every single presenter afterward that had jokes lined up for Smith... burned them.

 

[Himewad]

I think people are overreacting. It was an open-handed slap.

Would Smith made the attack against a woman? Against someone he didn't know? I doubt it. I've seen much worse fights in the firehall. Men do men things.

Say stupid things, get stupid backlash. It's what men do sometimes. I can't condone it - it's stupid. It happens anyway.

It's not for security, or the police, or anyone else to care about. Could Rock have pressed charges, maybe. But he also realized that he had stepped out of line. Five previous presenters that made jokes at Smith's expense. Chris Rock was one bridge too far, and a bridge that Will Smith could defend - so he did.

I'll bet that every single presenter afterward that had jokes lined up for Smith... burned them.

It’s the Oscars. It’s supposed to be a dignified event.

And a real comedian would have piled on with the Will Smith jokes after that slap. And dared him to do it again. Which would have been even funnier. Even something that isn’t a joke, like, “so how about that Jada Pinkett-Smith?” That would have gotten a great reaction.

 

[Pinesol13]

First of all, major props to OP for the amazing thread title!

My two cents:

There are no hard rules when it comes to what you can joke about, especially for professional comedians

Alopecia is more serious than I've seen most people give it credit for here, especially for women. Yes, its just hair, but it seriously affects your mental state/health. Not something to be taken lightly.

The most disappointing thing for me was that Chris Rock, a world class comedian, made such a bad joke...it was a really bad joke, in all aspects. It deserved a strong negative reaction, but not physical violence.

I can understand a person having this reaction to someone "talking shit" about their loved one, they feel the need to protect, and the need to slap/punch the person. But in context (being at the Oscar's, live on TV with 15M viewers, a comedian was making a joke, etc.) Smith's reaction was extremely over the line.

Smith did not seem in control/conscious of himself when he was screaming at Rock. Makes me think there are much bigger problems with him, his relationship with his wife. This was not really about Chris Rocks tone-deaf joke.

Smith parlaying his violence into some sort of bullshit higher meaning in his acceptance speech was pathetic to me.

 

[chrismurda]

 

[Stufflymcstuff]

It really sounds like I’m in the company of the same kids who made fun of the special education kids in school. It wasn’t funny then and it’s not funny now.

If you have ever had training or encountered this in a position where you had to deal with this you should know - IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OR FEEL, it’s the offended person who you have to think about and how they feel about what transpired.

I don’t get offended when people call me racist names, but I certainly understand it offends some people. Are you going to explain to them they shouldn’t be offended because it’s just words and they should just laugh it off as a joke? Because it doesn’t offend me can I go around saying them?

it’s pretty easy to see that there’s a material difference between a fairly polite/flattering bald joke and racist jokes, ragging in the mentally handicapped or ridiculing a degenerative brain disease that destroys lives.

I get it though, the crux of this is that you think that any joke that offends you or someone you care about no matter the context is grounds for physically assaulting them.

I’m sure if you’re willing to follow through on those convictions you’ll eventually have a chance to spend plenty of time with like minded people in prison.

 

[BigSlick4523]

MY LIFE IS BLEFF

 

[upNdown]

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I wonder if we hold people like Smith to a higher standard. I’ve seen a lot of outrage toward him today. Of course he did a bad thing. But people are acting like they’ve never seen anybody hit anybody before.

We all saw a bad moment in his life last night. Hopefully it was his worst. But for now, I’m will to accept him at his word - that he’s sorry and that he’s a work in progress.

 

[BigSlick4523]

I wonder if we hold people like Smith to a higher standard. I’ve seen a lot of outrage toward him today. Of course he did a bad thing. But people are acting like they’ve never seen anybody hit anybody before.

We all saw a bad moment in his life last night. Hopefully it was his worst. But for now, I’m will to accept him at his word - that he’s sorry and that he’s a work in progress.

its called a Shame Ritual it was all SCRIPTED

kinda like when Bruno put his nuts in Eminem's face sorta

 

[Stufflymcstuff]

I wonder if we hold people like Smith to a higher standard. I’ve seen a lot of outrage toward him today. Of course he did a bad thing. But people are acting like they’ve never seen anybody hit anybody before.

We all saw a bad moment in his life last night. Hopefully it was his worst. But for now, I’m will to accept him at his word - that he’s sorry and that he’s a work in progress.

He’s not a monster. People make mistakes. There’s no way he’d do it if he thought things through a bit more.

What I find odd is the people who came out of the woodworks to applaud it. Way to teach Chris a lesson on civility - I’m sure that mild discomfort taught him an important lesson.

 

[Frogzilla]

What I’ve learned from this thread:

It’s ok, even funny to make fun of people with disabilities.
Violence is ok, as long as it’s not real and it’s pretend. Nobody learns how to react to any situation by seeing an example somewhere, we learn our responses somewhere else undefined. Not saying we learn everything from the movies, but we are led to believe that anything we see happen in movies is acceptable, after all it’s been approved by a ratings committee somewhere. Catch phrases and fashion trends come from movies and TVs, why wouldnt some of our behavior?
If you are an actor, you should not have any expectation of privacy, modesty, or to be treated civilly. You give that up when you join the public eye.
If you are a comedian, you can do anything and say anything because it’s your job. Society has hired you to go out and make moral judgements and then write jokes making fun of them. Severed heads are fine, that’s funny as hell. Telling someone that their soiuse is fat and ugly is perfectly acceptable - if it’s your job - and no one should ever get offended, it’s just one of the funniest things you’ll ever hear and you should be laughing it up.

I think it’s more akin to going to a comedy show where the comedian does crowd work and mild crowd insults. You know hey this is what you signed up for. If he goes over the line you’re certainly not obligated to laugh, you’ve got a license to heckle back, but anything physical is way out of bounds.

 

[BigSlick4523]

I did not bet any games today again I know its scripted I dont know how they script these games I try n find out info that will help me

 

[Meddler2]

What I’ve learned from this thread:

It’s ok, even funny to make fun of people with disabilities.

Seriously? Since when has baldness become a disability? It certainly isn't an ADA protected class; give me a break.
I've been hearing bald jokes since I was 18 and not once did it cross my mind to assault anybody. Ridiculous.

I actually thought the joke was pretty funny and the only thing it warranted was either laughter or boos.

 

[Anthony Martino]

Seriously? Since when has baldness become a disability? It certainly isn't an ADA protected class; give me a break.
I've been hearing bald jokes since I was 18 and not once did it cross my mind to assault anybody. Ridiculous.

I actually thought the joke was pretty funny and the only thing it warranted was either laughter or boos.

I think I can understand that for a woman to be dealing with an issue of baldness is likely a more sensitive issue than a man, since it's more common for men to experience it, so it's more normalized.

That being said, I still think Will was the one more out of line in this situation, and still believe the joke itself was relatively tame. But I'm accustomed to watching Roasts on Comedy Central where some of the jokes are pretty harsh (but that person knew what they were signing up for)

Either way, glad to see Will come out with the apology. I still think he and his entire family are a bit odd. Hell, I thought they had an open relationship or fluid or whatever, so not sure how she cheated on him, but I don't really get involved in idol worship.

 

[Meddler2]

If you think I'm wrong then ask your wife what she thinks.

My wife was WAS a huge WS fan. No longer. I won't repeat what she said but rest assured it was not in approval.

 

[ekricket]

it’s pretty easy to see that there’s a material difference between a fairly polite/flattering bald joke and racist jokes, ragging in the mentally handicapped or ridiculing a degenerative brain disease that destroys lives.

I get it though, the crux of this is that you think that any joke that offends you or someone you care about no matter the context is grounds for physically assaulting them.

I’m sure if you’re willing to follow through on those convictions you’ll eventually have a chance to spend plenty of time with like minded people in prison.

Hyperbole much? I’m saying that in this particular instance and not extending it to any other instance or circumstance than this particular one Will Smiths reaction to his wife being publicly shamed on National tv in front of audience was understandable.

I get it though, you are saying that people can hurl racial insults and nobody should ever be offended. That sentence applies to you about as much as your hyperbole does to me.

 

[eightyWon]

I've decided that you are 100% trolling. You will never convince me otherwise.

I was starting to lean this way too as that other thread progressed.

its called a Shame Ritual it was all SCRIPTED

kinda like when Bruno put his nuts in Eminem's face sorta

This convinced me 100% for some reason lmao

 

[Stufflymcstuff]

Hyperbole much? I’m saying that in this particular instance and not extending it to any other instance or circumstance than this particular one Will Smiths reaction to his wife being publicly shamed on National tv in front of audience was understandable.

I get it though, you are saying that people can hurl racial insults and nobody should ever be offended. That sentence applies to you about as much as your hyperbole does to me.

You said

“I think Will Smith showed remarkable restraint by only open hand slapping him instead of a closed fist, tooth loosening smack down.”

“If you think violence isn’t the way to handle this then maybe you shouldn’t be using bully tactics to embarrass and ridicule someone for no fault of their own. Bullying usually ends with the bully getting slapped down.”

And a variety of other things that clearly indicate you think it’s a normal and justified reaction. Is it really hyperbole?

You suggesting that I think any joke is acceptable because I think this joke was acceptable isn’t hyperbole. It’s intentionally misinterpreting what I’m saying. I’ve said the exact opposite.

 

[pltrgyst]

Well, alopecia isn't much of a disease -- neither health- nor life-threatening, It's just the body attacking hair follicles.

I am anything but a Chris Rock fan -- think he's not too bright, and his delivery is, at best, wooden. But I also dunno why Will Smith got so heated up at a joke about her potentially having a role in a sci-fi movie: I thought Persis Khambatta as Lt. Ilia was about the sexiest thing I'd ever seen in Star Trek - the Movie, and I wasn't the only one.

 

[Trihonda]

They don't need Rock to testify to prove that a crime was committed (unless Smith would argue that it was staged).

Yeah they should charge Smith based on the evidence - lots of video evidence and lots of eye witnesses. Don't need Rock involved at all.

sorry, this is factually incorrect with respect to persons crimes. You absolutely do need a victim, except under specific domestic circumstances and lesser civil disorder type charges.

police need to follow the elements of the specific law, and most crimes have a ”consent” provision. Unless you have a victim who is willing to say they didnt consent to the behavior, then no crime has technically occurred.

 

[Pinesol13]

Well, alopecia isn't much of a disease -- neither health- nor life-threatening, It's just the body attacking hair follicles.

I am anything but a Chris Rock fan -- think he's not too bright, and his delivery is, at best, wooden. But I also dunno why Will Smith got so heated up at a joke about her potentially having a role in a sci-fi movie: I thought Persis Khambatta as Lt. Ilia was about the sexiest thing I'd ever seen in Star Trek - the Movie, and I wasn't the only one.

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True, alopecia is not a life-threatening disease, doesn't come close. But I think most people don't really understand what kind of effect it can have on a person. It can be like walking around with a giant scar on your face, people staring at you, you don't want to go out in public, people think you're a cancer patient. It can cause a tremendous amount of stress on the person, and their family. Also, I don't think you'd find the person in the pic you posted quite as attractive if they also didn't have eyebrows and eyelashes.

It's pretty easy for me to draw a line from Jada's alopecia to Will Smith reacting the way he did. But I still think he should've had more self control in that situation.

I know several people who've had alopecia, one has had it for years and I don't think it's ever going away, and they lost all their hair.

Anyways, glad to see Smith's apology, I thought it was well thought out and well said.

 

[BigSlick4523]

Again to anyone who thought that SLAP was real and not scripted

 

[Trihonda]

Again to anyone who thought that SLAP was real and not scripted

serious question.. you just keep repeating yourself, over and over. Are you ok?

 

[DMack]

The liberal DA in LA wants to let out murderers, rapists and pedophiles, yet some of you think they’re going to lock up Will Smith for a minor crime where the victim doesn’t want to prosecute??