Are hot dogs (in buns) sandwiches? (3 Viewers)

[kirchhausen]

Exactly!!

Which is why its hard for people to understand that they are eating a sandwich. We have labels on things to make it easier to communicate things we want.
If you walked into a car dealership and asked for a "Vehicle", he might bring you back a bike. Not fully understanding your intention!

No, you would not get a bike if you walked into a car dealership (unless you specifically asked for one). If you came in asking for a vehicle, we would do our best to steer you to the oldest new car on the lot to reduce floorplan expense. Or maybe a used car that hasn't had a lead on it in days. Not a bike.

 

[Wils]

So... The pellet with the poison's in the flagon with the dragon, the vessel with the pestle has the brew that is true?

 

[Mental Nomad]

OK, I just searched for the Wikipedia article on hot dogs and laughed out loud.

First, I didn't know that there was also a "Simple English Wikipedia." It's like a foreign-language version of Wikipedia, except the articles are written in simple and plain English for the benefit of children, those still learning English, those with learning disabilities, etc.

And they have an article on Hot Dogs with some wonderful facts:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog

Someone apparently snuck in those "alternate facts" in late January, and this version of Wikipedia is not as closely policed as the standard English language version:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hot_dog&type=revision&diff=5582915&oldid=5517449

 

[Mental Nomad]

My real point in searching was to see if Wikipedia took a position on, and had reference for, the sandwich claim. And behold:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog

And one of those footnotes led me to this statement:

"The earliest appearance of the phrase in Tad's work is in a cartoon panel in The New York Evening Journal of Dec. 3, 1908. In the panel, which was headed ''And They Say Things Have Changed in New York,'' there appears a sign on which is written: ''Hot Dog 5/ per copy.'' But the phrase was already current, for in The New York Sun of Aug. 12, 1906, ''hot dog sandwich'' appears in a feature article on Coney Island;" - LEONARD ZWILLING Madison, Wis., Sept. 15, 1988 The writer is assistant editor, Dictionary of American Regional English
- from http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/27/opinion/l-trail-of-hot-dog-leads-back-to-1880-s-531388.html

 

[slisk250]

My real point in searching was to see if Wikipedia took a position on, and had reference for, the sandwich claim. And behold:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog
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And one of those footnotes led me to this statement:

"The earliest appearance of the phrase in Tad's work is in a cartoon panel in The New York Evening Journal of Dec. 3, 1908. In the panel, which was headed ''And They Say Things Have Changed in New York,'' there appears a sign on which is written: ''Hot Dog 5/ per copy.'' But the phrase was already current, for in The New York Sun of Aug. 12, 1906, ''hot dog sandwich'' appears in a feature article on Coney Island;" - LEONARD ZWILLING Madison, Wis., Sept. 15, 1988 The writer is assistant editor, Dictionary of American Regional English
- from http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/27/opinion/l-trail-of-hot-dog-leads-back-to-1880-s-531388.html

That is the problem with Wikipedia. It is the on line encyclopedia any psychopath can edit...."Hey guys, let's go get a hotdog sandwich.....(reply) what?, go fuck yourself."

 

[Mental Nomad]

That is the problem with Wikipedia. It is the on line encyclopedia any psychopath can edit...

Yes, yes, but it'll get edited right back to reality, quickly. Not so quickly on the "simple" variant, but the main Wikipedia is pretty damn well policed, and it's a great source for references (by design.)

And there was obviously some "history" with nonsense going on with the main hot dog page - notice the lock in the upper-right corner? The page has been protected since Dec 23, 2016 because of vandalism.

For all that some people like to complain about Wikipedia, the community runs and polices it quite well, and it's a great source for basic info and references.

Normally, I remove vandalism when I spot it, and often fix grammar errors or typos when I spot them... but have decided to leave the spooky ass magic I've spotted, at least for now...

 

[upNdown]

Man, I really want a hot dog. I've often though it's such a shame that they don't have hot dog carts in Boston. There should be one on every corner!

 

[Psypher1000]

I've often though it's such a shame that they don't have hot dog carts in Boston.

Really? Do local statutes prevent them or something?

 

[upNdown]

Really? Do local statutes prevent them or something?

No, there might be some hot dog carts I don't know of. There MUST be. But why aren't they all over the place??

 

[gopherblue]

No, there might be some hot dog carts I don't know of. There MUST be. But why aren't they all over the place??

My office is in midtown Manhattan. I can see no fewer than three hotdog sandwich carts from my window.

 

[upNdown]

My office is in midtown Manhattan. I can see no fewer than three hotdog sandwich carts from my window.

You bastard

 

[jbutler]

My office is in midtown Manhattan. I can see no fewer than three hotdog sandwich carts from my window.

I do not have extraordinarily high standards for cleanliness in restaurants, but I would never eat a hot dog from a hot dog cart.

 

[Chicken Rob]

Is the lettuce wrap a sandwich? For those of us with gluten issues, and a love of 5 guys, they will wrap their burgers in lettuce for you. Is this a sandwich?

Also, I'd like to hear people weighing in on the lobster roll. @DarPodo beat me too it, but there has been little recognition of his post. Is the lobster roll a sandwich?

Yes, yes, but it'll get edited right back to reality, quickly. Not so quickly on the "simple" variant, but the main Wikipedia is pretty damn well policed, and it's a great source for references (by design.)

And there was obviously some "history" with nonsense going on with the main hot dog page - notice the lock in the upper-right corner? The page has been protected since Dec 23, 2016 because of vandalism.

For all that some people like to complain about Wikipedia, the community runs and polices it quite well, and it's a great source for basic info and references.

Normally, I remove vandalism when I spot it, and often fix grammar errors or typos when I spot them... but have decided to leave the spooky ass magic I've spotted, at least for now...

I hear people criticize wikipedia because it can be edited, but several surveys of it's accuracy place it as more accurate than encyclopedia britannica was in it's day.

 

[bentax1978]

 

[MegaTon44]

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I'm pretty jacked up in the dome and even this made me cringe. Well done

 

[Chicken Rob]

I do not have extraordinarily high standards for cleanliness in restaurants, but I would never eat a hot dog from a hot dog cart.

what about the roadside hotdog stand? You know those tiny little buildings with just enough room to grill hotdogs and sell them out of a window?

 

[Wils]

I meant to post something here this morning but I thought, this thread

It pukka jubbly guvna'. And that, my old china, is a Bacon Buttie! FTW !!

This thread makes Dick Van Dyke's awful "Cockerney" acting in Mary Poppins look positively excellent.

Plus, the only thing that can be classed as a sandwich, is a sandwich.

 

[jbutler]

what about the roadside hotdog stand? You know those tiny little buildings with just enough room to grill hotdogs and sell them out of a window?

Never seem one, but without much info, I'm going no.

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

I do not have extraordinarily high standards for cleanliness in restaurants, but I would never eat a hot dog from a hot dog cart.

Nit

 

[jbutler]

Nit

I ate a sushi burrito from a food truck a couple of months ago and that went...poorly. I've decided to seek lower variance in my food poisoning options.

 

[bentax1978]

I do not have extraordinarily high standards for cleanliness in restaurants, but I would never eat a hot dog from a hot dog cart.

DWD FTW!


*dirty water dogs

 

[Blaster]

... It's the old, .. are Tomatoes and cucumbers vegetables, thing..
People can "know" they are technically one thing, and yet still classify them as another for social group understanding reasons ...

 

[bentax1978]

@jbutler

where do you stand on Pluto?

 

[jbutler]

DWD FTW!


*dirty water dogs

The acronym took me instantly back to my touring days. But seems that the Phish-related acronym is just as applicable when talking about eating at a hot dog stand...

 

[jbutler]

@jbutler

where do you stand on Pluto?

Not a sandwich.

 

[bentax1978]

@jbutler

where do you stand on Pluto?

Not a sandwich.

I suppose I walked right into that one. Nicely done.

 

[MatB]

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Make it stop.

 

[courage]

Did this topic germinate as a result of your avatar? Was there some Weiner-sandwich trauma of which we are unaware?

 

[gopherblue]

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I said it previously in this thread: sandwich or not, ketchup on a hotdog is an abomination.

 

[rowlin]

I said it previously in this thread: sandwich or not, ketchup on anything is an abomination.

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