Can Everyone Be Included Now? (1 Viewer)
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So you consider that there are no subtle jabs from moderators on CD? And no deletion of content there because it offends the mods? People are just free to exchange views? Unless they are mean or disrespectful, right? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
RainmanTrail
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Something kinda funny - when I was told about Chip Donkeys I attempted to register but got no confirmation email to complete the registration process. That made me feel unwelcome there so I returned here. I have to admit that no matter how badly I aligned my initial views on the boat chips at first I was never censored. Hence why I returned. At least I was still welcome even though I had crapped on people. Tommy still left me my voice to make amends. CD never even extended the welcome mat. Thanks Tommy -
Yep. Because if you repeated that pious attack on Erik one more time, there was going to be a deeper discussion about how the moderation of both sites is exactly the same.
This may be my ignorance of all things IT related speaking, but aren’t registrations like that automated?
I’m registered over there as well, mostly to chat to some great people that have gone quiet here, but this place still seems like home regardless of any dramas.
I’m sure we can all coexist peacefully.
Pretty sure there was (maybe still is) a period where they exceeded their maximum daily email limit so emails weren't being sent. There was a need to upgrade or something, which was low on RT's priorities given the forum is/was in alpha release and he had just had a kid.
Yes, coexistence should happen.
I think I have stated this before but if not I truly believe that not any one forum or site makes up the chipping community. The chipping community is made up by any and all members of any and all sites that contribute for the betterment of the community as a whole.
justsomedude
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I think we definitely can.
I just have a hard time buying admins from the other site trying to sell the “moral high ground” pitch, when they are running a site with the sole purpose of dividing the community.
Let’s all have a little intellectual honesty here... The purpose of two sites is certainly not for the sake of uniting us.
The splintering that has occurred in the last two or three months has definitely weakened the community. To state otherwise shows a lack of understanding on what makes a community strong.
Not sure I follow you. Are you disagreeing that a community is made up by contributing members?
My statement was not about splintering as you put it. It is about what communities are or should be about.
How exactly are you interpreting my statement?
Hmmm, the orange wall term doesn’t offend me at all. I have a pretty thick skin. However, you’ve got a short memory if you think us calling Chip Talk “the blue wall” was an endearment. It was coined that after it was basically dead and had no more relevance. People didn’t want to even utter the name of the site, they were so mad at Greg... It was at a minimum, a very dismissive term. Continuing the Trend isn’t something I’d brag about when making an argument about how “above the fray” a moderator should conduct themselves.
Donkey den is offensive to you? Really? It wasn’t intended to offend. Which part was offensive? The Donkey or the den? Just curious. I mean, you named the site “Donkey” which I thought was self deprecating already.
I am glad Tommy restored them. I don’t personally think that the posts were delete worthy... but...
Ya, this. Sorta self serving to shine PCF mods in a negative light, when you’re trying to start up a competing site... you may say publically to “treat them with respect”, but lol
I’m one of the most excoriated people on your site, and though I’m human and never claim to be perfect, the claims I’ve overmoderated, or wield some magic orb of power are greatly exaggerated. I think you know the claims are BS, as you know the source of these claims. Hell, Chicken made a comment in a thread about the moderation and post deletions, and said something like “I assume it had to be Trihonda, in retailiation for all the trolling weve done to him”. Lol. Seriously
Travis, that huge thread on your site that repeatedly discusses how overmoderated the Orange Wall is, an how your site is a moderation-free utopia, is so highly moderated it’s like you’re trolling your own site.
And lastly, I’ll say that your judgement of my neighbor is pretty dismissive of his worth, and disrespectful. Who are you to judge what is an adequate level of participation and what qualifies him as less of a chipper than some newbie with 2000 rapid fire posts of little substance..? My random neighbor reads and follows just about everything. He has many many thousands of Paulsons (more than me), CC chips, etc, a freaking game room that rivals mine, he’s done many private transactions with members (including you), and he has had an extreme love of poker chips for years. He’s just much more private about his life when it comes to posting content online. It may not be up to your standards, but it’s up to his (and isn’t that all that matters?). The fact he was empathetic to public concerns about these chips being kept unobtainable, and then released some to the wild for a super low price, should be something that proves he was trying to be a good member of the community, not something to be flamed over... are you seriously defending the way he was treated? Joking about someone’s marital status? Not something you joke about. If he’s a part of the fun, fine, but not when there are torches and pitchforks out in full force - it wasn’t funny.
And as for the selection process, it’s already been discussed ad nauseam. But at the time, I believe a call went out for suggestions on anyone who might have disposable income to help the second boat take sail! (It wasn’t yet a for sure thing). Someone who would likely not spill the beans (private), and he was an obvious choice imho. And a hell of a super nice guy.
Ok, this was funny
So you tell me Dave. What should communities be about? Define it for me.
Sounds like you are trying to sell a message that we should all close our eyes to the harm that has been done, because we are just as strong no matter how divided we have become.
This has gone way too far for grown ass people. I was left out, angry that after 14 years in the hobby on both forums with a lot of good mojo I had done in the past behind me that I was left out. The chips are awesome, someone figured it out. Didn't share, whatever, they are JUST FUCKING CHIPS! No one died or starved. I took some time to reflect and while I still can't explain why I wasn't contacted as I am pretty active posting only real thoughts no BS....BLAH BLAH BLAH....
Isn't it time to just love chips again????
Yes it still hurts - big fricking deal.....time to quit whining.
Isn't it time to just love chips again????
Yes it still hurts - big fricking deal.....time to quit whining.
RowdyRawhide
Full House
My usage in the past of the term "blue wall" was to refer CT, BECAUSE on CT almost any direct reference to a 'competing' site was edited out over there, it was never used as a derogatory reference, just an alternative, and it seemed to appear to 'fly under the radar' here (kudos to Tommy for not having an inferiority complex about other sites) There was plenty derogatory to talk about with CT, without trying to turn into an adolescent teenager.
As for mods, I think they should walk softly and carry a big stick, there are several between both sites (CT and PCF) that could give great lessons in this......I will not name names, they know who they are. For the others there's a saying 'the empty can rattles the most'.
As for the some of threads over the last few months, it has just reassured the fact that there are still plenty of 70 year old and under adolescents on both sides that cruise the internet and also obviously have way too much time on their hands
^^^^This really is the big takeaway here. If this doesn't resonate, I sincerely hope you continue to lead a lucky and charmed life....inside whatever fucking bubble you live in
As for mods, I think they should walk softly and carry a big stick, there are several between both sites (CT and PCF) that could give great lessons in this......I will not name names, they know who they are. For the others there's a saying 'the empty can rattles the most'.
As for the some of threads over the last few months, it has just reassured the fact that there are still plenty of 70 year old and under adolescents on both sides that cruise the internet and also obviously have way too much time on their hands
^^^^This really is the big takeaway here. If this doesn't resonate, I sincerely hope you continue to lead a lucky and charmed life....inside whatever fucking bubble you live in
So you answer my question with a question. I have seen this before. Obviously you view a community differently as others might. I think my post said what I thought a community was and you have not made your definition clear. I am not hear to argue with you so we can agree to disagree. I am okay with that. I am not going to continue down a path that may upset you and I definitely do not need the drama right now so I close with the following.
I am not trying to sell a message. I was making a statement about what a community is and I guess you are going to keep mixing my words. Yes there was some division but many are doing a great job trying to mend the situation and other keep trying to peel off the scab.
If a person chooses to not try and strengthen the community then that is on them. I for one have always tried to be a contributor and that is something you or no one else can take from me.
Meddler2
Full House
And he ^^ knows how to host a meetup. Thanks again BTW.
I didn't ask for your thoughts regarding a community. I asked for your definition of a community.
^^ Although, that is some deep stuff Dave. Gives me the warm fuzzies. You know what I mean?
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superchromix
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You think you weren't censored? Try searching for the original (36-page) group buy discussion thread on this site
I got pretty damn raw with my comments at first and don't blame anyone for censoring those remarks. What I meant is that I was not locked out, or chastised by the admins in any way.You think you weren't censored? Try searching for the original (36-page) group buy discussion thread on this site
I grew up - I let it go - others should also it's as they say 'water under the bridge'.
It's called being an adult.....and not a big butt hurt baby forever about something that occurred in my HOBBY, not my real life.
Poker Zombie
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- Yes in many ways we are a community. We are a group of like minded individuals that have come together for a common purpose: chips. Sure we can discuss other things like hot dogs, tables, grills, automobiles, etc. because that helps develop bonds and even more kinship. Any thread that devolves into arguing and hatred - that does not increase the bonds. It only serves to divide them.
- This is also a buisness. See that banner ad at the top of the screen? Have you seen the vendors that paid to advertise here? It costs money to keep it going. Some portion of the funds collected come back to the membership in the form of give-a-ways, but he still has advertisers, and this is a business, even if it is run for little to no profit. Would McDonalds allow PETA to stand inside it's store and protest? No, so why would anyone expect Tommy to allow it?
- It is Tommy's. Period. IMO there is not a single person that has been censored or banned that I would not have had a talking to or barred from future visits in my house if they came in and started making continuous jabs, or turned downright insulting? And for Pete's sake, who in their right mind would insult Trihonda? We've read about him getting bent over someone touching his card protector! But he is one of our host's Mods, and should treat him - and all the mods - with the level of respect you would give to any host's close friends or family. If that means treating him differently than you would treat your buddies in your local pub, then you straighten up and treat him kinder, or you can be expected to be given a "private talking to" or shown the door.
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Removal was not censorship or based on any specific discussion content. That it remained as long as it did reflects that.You think you weren't censored? Try searching for the original (36-page) group buy discussion thread on this site
ssanel54
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Kinda funny how people interpret things. I thought the "blue wall" term came about because CT was neglected so bad at one point it crashed and literally became a blue wall. I tried to search, but the first reference I could find was from @Poker Zombie who actually referred to it as the Blue Miasma, which I guess does have a more negative connotation.
Poker Zombie
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Well, CT did take a lot of money, and then returned a bunch of nothing. That somehow felt more egregious than being upset because someone with fewer posts got some nice chips.
If someone screws with members, I don't spare the vocabulary.
If someone screws with members, I don't spare the vocabulary.
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