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TudiscoKid
Pair
chipper issues... solution: buy more $1's and $5's so you can also spread $1/1
yeah I don't want to play super micro stakes, 1 peso is 5¢
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[Cash Game] How many chips on the table before coloring up? (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter TudiscoKid
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yeah I don't want to play super micro stakes, 1 peso is 5¢
If your players [and dealer(s)?] are experienced they should know how to make change during betting too. If the bet is $20 and you're running low on 5s, just slide in a $25 and the dealer can toss you $5 back after the street completes. It's never slowed down the game at any room I've played at. I don't think giving everyone 40x$5 accomplishes anything 20x$5 and 4x$25 doesn't, except for big stacks. Unless everyone bets exactly $20 each street and only in $5s I guess...
150 is still a bit light though. 200 will let you give 30ea at 6-handed, and 20 ea at 9-handed. More than that can be fun, but I wouldn't call it efficient.
OP
OP
TudiscoKid
Pair
Yeah, my crowd knows how and when to make change so it doesn't really slow down the game.
It doesn't happen all the time too, so not an issue imo.
BOO! THIS IS JUST CERTIFIED BOO MATERIAL HERE!!
louBdub
4 of a Kind
Guilty
I’ll have $300 in chips….. $200 in a nice spread between $1s & $5s, and a single $100
And because I’m a degen chipper, I wanna bet the $100 chip…. Because it’s pretty
“fuck that $5 bet homie, it’s gonna get wild now”
OP
OP
TudiscoKid
Pair
I see there are two schools of thoughts here: minimalist vs abundant lol.
I guess both have their satisfaction level, I mostly go 'minimalist' because it's hell of a budget, which I've gone over already.
I guess both have their satisfaction level, I mostly go 'minimalist' because it's hell of a budget, which I've gone over already.
louBdub
4 of a Kind
LeLe
4 of a Kind
For a new host / player like OP, I will suggest going with the standard breakdown of 100/200/200/80/20
You will have 200 of your main and secondary workhorse chips and not too overwhelming Blind chips in play. This also mean No need for any colouring up of chips.
Generally people don’t like to play with too little chips or too many chips, being sufficient and not excessive is the key
With time, you will generally figure what breakdown you like and perfer
As different host have different preferences, you are just going to get different options
As of starting stack, there is ZERO need to give everyone a fixed starting stack for cash game. Give out your $1 and $5 first. Proceed to give out higher denomination when the lower is given out.
You will have 200 of your main and secondary workhorse chips and not too overwhelming Blind chips in play. This also mean No need for any colouring up of chips.
Generally people don’t like to play with too little chips or too many chips, being sufficient and not excessive is the key
With time, you will generally figure what breakdown you like and perfer
As different host have different preferences, you are just going to get different options
As of starting stack, there is ZERO need to give everyone a fixed starting stack for cash game. Give out your $1 and $5 first. Proceed to give out higher denomination when the lower is given out.
OP
OP
TudiscoKid
Pair
LeLe
4 of a Kind
One host should always prepare a set for a full table even if you might not be hosting a full table now
Rules of thumb for total bank is 3x buyin for each person for small stake and 5x buyin for each person for micro stake
Nine_high
3 of a Kind
I don't ever color up chips in play. I will color up a stack that is cashing out and leaving play, if it has too much of the small stuff in it.
As players exit and it gets short handed, I end up leaving all the small stuff on the table, minus whatever might have gotten cashed out. I guess it gets up to maybe 30-60+ of a given denomination per player. I don't add more small stuff back in at that point, I just add value chips for rebuys.
Never color up a cash game. Big stacks promote action.
I swear ur all trolling me with threads like this and claws for sale
Never color up
Never color up
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
In no limit play I think 40-60 workhorse chips is the sweet spot. If someone gets over 100 or so and wants to color up some that's cool.
For serious cash games, I play exclusively with experienced players, who are very good and generally quick at making correct change.
It still over time slows things down, and in any case is an unnecessary task.
The minimalist approach may at times arise from budget constraints, but often on this site it seems more like a purist attitude than a practical necessity, TBH. It satisfies some abstract need to see how perfectly streamlined the chipset can be, at the expense of ease, comfort and fun.
And really, even at the lowest stakes, if you play regularly, the cost of getting a few more chips — especially the workhorse denoms — seems pretty trivial. Especially when amortized over years of play.
Extreme example:
Say you are hosting a $20 buyin game… An extra $200 in chips represents 10 buyins.
Now say you play as little as 10 times a year, and host for only 5 years.
And now say your typical game has 8 players who average 2.5 buyins per game. That’s 20 buyins per session, x 10 x 5 = 1,000 buyins over the history of the game, $20,000 in play overall.
The extra $200 in chips is 1% of the cash put in play.
If your buyin is $100, 1/5 of 1%.
$500, 1/25th of 1%. And so on.
Then when you’re done hosting? You sell the chipset and get your investment back… or even make a profit on them, if you bought nice chips.
Conclusion: MOAR better
It still over time slows things down, and in any case is an unnecessary task.
The minimalist approach may at times arise from budget constraints, but often on this site it seems more like a purist attitude than a practical necessity, TBH. It satisfies some abstract need to see how perfectly streamlined the chipset can be, at the expense of ease, comfort and fun.
And really, even at the lowest stakes, if you play regularly, the cost of getting a few more chips — especially the workhorse denoms — seems pretty trivial. Especially when amortized over years of play.
Extreme example:
Say you are hosting a $20 buyin game… An extra $200 in chips represents 10 buyins.
Now say you play as little as 10 times a year, and host for only 5 years.
And now say your typical game has 8 players who average 2.5 buyins per game. That’s 20 buyins per session, x 10 x 5 = 1,000 buyins over the history of the game, $20,000 in play overall.
The extra $200 in chips is 1% of the cash put in play.
If your buyin is $100, 1/5 of 1%.
$500, 1/25th of 1%. And so on.
Then when you’re done hosting? You sell the chipset and get your investment back… or even make a profit on them, if you bought nice chips.
Conclusion: MOAR better
louBdub
4 of a Kind
When I was young & poor, I’d try to get by with as little as possible.
Now I’m old & poor, but wiser. Live your best life, buy more chips, play more chips.
Now I’m old & poor, but wiser. Live your best life, buy more chips, play more chips.
Exactly.
If a host tries to color-up my cash game stack (huge or otherwise), it's my cue to cash out and leave. Don't fuck with my chip stack, bro.
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
To clarify, as host, I don't proactively offer color ups, but if a player wants to color up 60 or more chips I will oblige so long as they are left with 40 or so.
OP
OP
TudiscoKid
Pair
Wow, I didn't expect thread to raise such passions lol.
Good point, I'll make sure not to do this in the future.
Yep I have just the right amount, even though I've never had everyone rebuy 3 times in a session.
So 100 x $1, 200 x $5, 200 x $25, 80 x $100 and 20 x $500 ?
Seems like a lot of $25.
Also, should I give out all my 150 x $1 or just 100 of them? I feel like 100 is the sweet spot.
Good point, I'll make sure not to do this in the future.
Yep I have just the right amount, even though I've never had everyone rebuy 3 times in a session.
So 100 x $1, 200 x $5, 200 x $25, 80 x $100 and 20 x $500 ?
Seems like a lot of $25.
Also, should I give out all my 150 x $1 or just 100 of them? I feel like 100 is the sweet spot.
EnjoyLife
3 of a Kind
I am disappointed in you, Erik!
Hey! I'm right here...
Two racks and that’s it.
LeLe
4 of a Kind
100 is enough, I only give out 200 x $1 if I playing $1/$1 where $1 is secondary workhorse & $5 is the main workhorse
200 x $25 is not a lot for a $2/5 or 5/10 game as they are the workhorse chip
I seem people buyin $1,100 in the first 30min for a 1/2 game before.
Your players will get more experiences and comfortable buying in deep in the future too so using now is not a good indication
My CPCs have 400 £5s...the £25s can wait until inflation makes us raise the stakes, the Hundos are just for show.
My RHC set was 100,200,200,80,20 though, the only sensible single table breakdown as mentioned above.
My RHC set was 100,200,200,80,20 though, the only sensible single table breakdown as mentioned above.
I do have four racks in my CPC set if any of you 5-weirdos come to visitTwo racks and that’s it.
Finally, he's talking some sense!I do have four racks in my CPC set if any of you 5-weirdos come to visit
LeLe
4 of a Kind
I am a fan of 2 racks of $5 myself but I can understand people liking up to maybe 4 rack, anytime beyond 4 racks is just hoarding to meTwo racks and that’s it.
When you can’t use a lower dom regularly in play.
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