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Chips need more cotton and less lead.
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It's a good fight, and slight nuances for everyone. I think in part "social" plays a HUGE role.
Like for me, I don't know squat about history, hadn't been to Vegas til recent years, and couldn't tell you nuffin bout years that certain things were done, leaded, etc. I'm more "I like the
Similarly the Tigers and NAGB fulfil a social perspective. Sure I care how chips look, but I've not once ever even mocked up a set so I can't be that discerning. But I do love bright, ridiculous things. Even better than that are the hijinks and stories behind how some of these chips were made. It's hilarious and fun, and now you're telling me that someone, who I've had the pleasure to meet and felt brand new paulson direct chips with, got to make them? And he's one of the leading designers and trend setters in chip design? Lol whelp fuck me, how absolutely fun is that?!
Old chips can be cool, new chips can be cool. And I don't think people judge them in a vacuum, they judge both in a socially charged environment.
To the other topic, folks like both of you can critically think, argue, make relevant points, etc. But outside of that, the nonstop bickering between lead heads, nagb supporters, etc. all seems socially driven as well. At least from my perspective, $ is the primary driver and you have people punching up and punching down on each other. Most of the people arguing aren't even people that regularly buy and sell chips, the topic is "would I spend money on this". Not to mention, everyone has to keep their pov and more importantly their chips bumped to the top, because after all social perception drives price.
Chip location doesn't matter to me.
Chip history doesn't matter to me either.
How they look and feel matter. Heavier chips feel better. Yes, give me the lead
Chip history doesn't matter to me either.
How they look and feel matter. Heavier chips feel better. Yes, give me the lead
But you didn’t say which looked better?Chip location doesn't matter to me.
Chip history doesn't matter to me either.
How they look and feel matter. Heavier chips feel better. Yes, give me the lead
lead head!
That said, I still love a lot of chips that aren't leaded.
Sam's Town $1 chips. One of my all time favorites. I still have regrets of not buying a ton of them and selling what I had. Various chips in the NAGB sets are some of my favorites too (ES frac, ES $100, AS $5, AS Hot stamp set, ESST).
I think a lot of the Tiger chips are really great chips too. I just had to decide on a limited number of sets and found it harder to sell a lot of my other sets first. Half of the chip sets I have now are not leaded.
Sam's Town $1 chips. One of my all time favorites. I still have regrets of not buying a ton of them and selling what I had. Various chips in the NAGB sets are some of my favorites too (ES frac, ES $100, AS $5, AS Hot stamp set, ESST).
I think a lot of the Tiger chips are really great chips too. I just had to decide on a limited number of sets and found it harder to sell a lot of my other sets first. Half of the chip sets I have now are not leaded.
ChipEnvy
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It has probably been said before, but if you have a custom set built, regardless of manufacturer (excluding GPI because they are hard to get done) once those chips are delivered to your door, they are not worth anywhere near what you paid for them.
It's your art, you decided the color palette. You paid $3 per chip? Awesome, I hope you love them, but to offer them at a 15% 'savings' is Christopher Brian Bridges.
If you can sell them for that, congrats, a sucker is born everyday.... but when I open those FS adds:
It's your art, you decided the color palette. You paid $3 per chip? Awesome, I hope you love them, but to offer them at a 15% 'savings' is Christopher Brian Bridges.
If you can sell them for that, congrats, a sucker is born everyday.... but when I open those FS adds:
I prefer shuffling unleaded chips, both feel and sound. I’m just a poor simpleton tho.
elemeno
Two Pair
It has probably been said before, but if you have a custom set built, regardless of manufacturer (excluding GPI because they are hard to get done) once those chips are delivered to your door, they are not worth anywhere near what you paid for them.
It's your art, you decided the color palette. You paid $3 per chip? Awesome, I hope you love them, but to offer them at a 15% 'savings' is Christopher Brian Bridges.
If you can sell them for that, congrats, a sucker is born everyday.... but when I open those FS adds:
Not to mention sellers of custom CPCs calculate those ‘savings’ on the cost to make a new set today, rather than what they paid. I get it, replacement cost, but it feels disingenuous.
Offering custom CPCs to the general public is plain stupid. The general public is inevitably vulture-minded. Or hyena-minded.
If parting with something custom-made, make sure to privately adress like-minded people, with similar tastes and emotions.
If parting with something custom-made, make sure to privately adress like-minded people, with similar tastes and emotions.
Very true. Usually they are very "owner specific" and have little appeal (other than murdering) to another chipper.
Poker Zombie
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Usually.
There have been some custom sets that are simply awesome. Pillage and Plunder, Iron Bank, and Parks and Rec, just to name a few.
I'd rather see someone buy the original set than see a knock-off. At least that way the creator gets something for the original idea.
Yup. A few key sets could make a profit, but generally you should make realizing that if you sell you are gonna lose 40%. But the idea that you will is false, as some would get a premium.
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Typical PCF post, of which there are literal copies of this now in the classifieds:
I'm selling my customs. I made them years ago, but here's what they cost today if you wanted to make them.
I have to sell these chips in order to buy new chips, that's the only reason these amazing chips are available.
Also, I don't really care if they sell so they're priced high accordingly. Thanks for looking!
But is that really all that different from:
I'm doing an auction so that everyone has a chance to buy these! *proceeds to list above market price and doesn't have a single bid*
Disingenuous and being a salesman is a very fine line and subjective, so to each their own I 'spose. Additionally, the person, their status/likeability on PCF, etc. help drive specific costs for customs. Someone who doesn't post often outside of the US can have amazing CPC customs, but those simply are not going to remotely sell as well as the same customs from a frequent poster who was also nominated for HoF and such.
I'm selling my customs. I made them years ago, but here's what they cost today if you wanted to make them.
I have to sell these chips in order to buy new chips, that's the only reason these amazing chips are available.
Also, I don't really care if they sell so they're priced high accordingly. Thanks for looking!
But is that really all that different from:
I'm doing an auction so that everyone has a chance to buy these! *proceeds to list above market price and doesn't have a single bid*
Disingenuous and being a salesman is a very fine line and subjective, so to each their own I 'spose. Additionally, the person, their status/likeability on PCF, etc. help drive specific costs for customs. Someone who doesn't post often outside of the US can have amazing CPC customs, but those simply are not going to remotely sell as well as the same customs from a frequent poster who was also nominated for HoF and such.
Luckily, I still love my custom CPC chips, and never plan on selling them. 
OP
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I assume this page of posts is in regard to a specific set, which I haven't seen. All I'll say is I'm always sad to see people selling their custom clay chips. Keep that shit!* OG will always be better, even if you create a subsequent set that is "better" or you like more.
*unless you're Pat - keep doing your thing
*unless you're Pat - keep doing your thing
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elemeno
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Here’s my controversial shower thought
Tina chips = Casio/gshocks (accurate, gets the job done, good value)
BRpro poker ceramics = Timex (same as above but partially American; some claim they feel better but iirc, the chip itself is still sourced from China)
CPC = Tag (no man’s land of watches. Not cheap, not expensive (yes, yes, got more expensive lately with the price increases, and especially if you get a level 45 chip with a shaped inlay))
Paulson can be a watch you found on the floor to Citizen to Patek/Philippe Dufour (from nasty TCR majestic grime to one of a kind unobtainium)
NAGB, especially Tigers = Rolex
BCC = Omega from ~5-8 years ago (great value, high-end)
TRK = ?
Tina chips = Casio/gshocks (accurate, gets the job done, good value)
BRpro poker ceramics = Timex (same as above but partially American; some claim they feel better but iirc, the chip itself is still sourced from China)
CPC = Tag (no man’s land of watches. Not cheap, not expensive (yes, yes, got more expensive lately with the price increases, and especially if you get a level 45 chip with a shaped inlay))
Paulson can be a watch you found on the floor to Citizen to Patek/Philippe Dufour (from nasty TCR majestic grime to one of a kind unobtainium)
NAGB, especially Tigers = Rolex
BCC = Omega from ~5-8 years ago (great value, high-end)
TRK = ?
TRK = pocket watch
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I think most of it is somewhat subjective and not specific to now. What I posted I think comes up quite frequently.
Nothing against the OP, but the current one right now is https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...scrown-1000-chip-cashset.118307/#post-2468527. Nothing wrong with the post at all, just fits the conversation/description.
Or maybe old school antique wind up watches.
The biggest reason I’ve felt comfortable paying $1/$5/$10+ per chip over the years for Paulsons is that I knew I could resell them for the same price or for a minor loss. And that’s one of the biggest reasons I never even considered custom clay for the first 5+ years I was here - I’m not comfortable sinking thousands of dollars into poker chips if I’m going to lose half of it.It has probably been said before, but if you have a custom set built, regardless of manufacturer (excluding GPI because they are hard to get done) once those chips are delivered to your door, they are not worth anywhere near what you paid for them.
It's your art, you decided the color palette. You paid $3 per chip? Awesome, I hope you love them, but to offer them at a 15% 'savings' is Christopher Brian Bridges.
If you can sell them for that, congrats, a sucker is born everyday.... but when I open those FS adds:
I sometimes actually laugh out loud when I see people list their custom CPCs at or near what they paid. Do they actually think they’re that good or do they just have their fingers crossed?
Oh and if we ignore all those goofy raffles, I’m sure you can count on one hand how many custom sets have resold for at or above their cost, and you’d probably have a few fingers left over.
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This made me spit out my coffee
I don’t know but it’s definitely pretty far from selling a million different items for great prices, not ship and then fuck off into a black hole of radio silence for months.
Starting to feel there must be something. Not the first time I’m the implied target of these rants of yours
I hate to keep bringing it up, but if I had that track record I sure as shit would STFU about just how poorly everyone else is doing their business
You good. I'm just doing my role of gif giver during the concurrent chipping war of 2024.
Lol, for me it’s definitely the bolded. A hail Mary attempt to see if I can free up money to get a cooler CPC set. I know it’s unlikely someone would be interested but if I have to give them away for way cheap, it’s just not attractive. They play poker just fine
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