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Dealer's choice! What is and isn't allowed (19 Viewers)
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Jimulacrum
Full House
We have voluntary props that are a little like this.
For example, if a 3 lands on the river, everyone in on props pays me 2. If it's a 7, we all pay the guy who claimed 7s. We have a few standing props of this sort.
Swapping complete hands would be a little much for me, but if it makes your players happy, go for it!
Jimulacrum
Full House
I knew what RNG means.
I did not understand how it would apply in-game.
And now I know.
4SUMERZ
Flush
Basically, it's your home game, and you can dictate the reg game and any circus games that are allowed. I would suggest to get a concensus of the games that your reg players like.
At my game, we decided as a group of my regular players for 2 card Texas Hold'em, with the 7-2 game, 3 card Pineapple, discarding one card after the flop, or 4 card Omaha. Simple, everyone understands the rules of each game. We've tried other circus games in the past, but not everyone was on board. Some would just muck the hand preflop, maybe not even look at their hole cards, and just fold. That doesn't make it fun for everyone involved at the table.
At my game, we decided as a group of my regular players for 2 card Texas Hold'em, with the 7-2 game, 3 card Pineapple, discarding one card after the flop, or 4 card Omaha. Simple, everyone understands the rules of each game. We've tried other circus games in the past, but not everyone was on board. Some would just muck the hand preflop, maybe not even look at their hole cards, and just fold. That doesn't make it fun for everyone involved at the table.
ekricket
Royal Flush
I’ve seen this played where you had a choice, if you were going to use it then you had to pay. But if you didn’t pay you couldn’t use it. Couple more ways to add strategy there. You could pay as a red herring for example, to distract from the strength of your hand even if you weren’t using it.
I mentioned only playing games on the cards in my comment.
I both love and hate derailment.
Good to see you posting Ben. I have missed you.
Statesvegas
Flush
Because there are a couple of players at my table who are really good friends but poor poker players that REALLY can't afford to lose significant sums of money, I don't allow the games that can get silly with the betting. We stick to Hold Em, Omaha, pineapple and variants of pineapple for the most part. No wild card games. No guts, no double board games.
Jimulacrum
Full House
I disagree that most of the games you listed are any more prone to the betting getting silly than Hold'em or Omaha. That's more a feature of NL/PL betting in general than any specific game.
However, I agree wholeheartedly about this:
These games have too much potential to make a huge mess that will leave basically everyone unhappy.
However, I agree wholeheartedly about this:
Also no 3-5-7 or any other game where someone has to match the pot in perpetuity until there's a final winner.
These games have too much potential to make a huge mess that will leave basically everyone unhappy.
You call it we play it
Now original buy is is $100 per player
We play hold em, Omaha hi/lo, follow the bitch, screw your neighbor, 3 card gut, 4's, OmaJack, 10 bust 30, 7.5&27.5
usally end the night with a game of inbetween, but we cap the amount of the biggest lose you can have is $50 and the biggest win you can have is $50, that way you cant try to win $300 and only have a lose of $50
they do not know most circus games, I will get @CraigT78 over to the house one of these days for a game so he teach us,
but it is just a fun night
any game that has blinds we play a full orbit
most other games are one hand then off to the next game
Now original buy is is $100 per player
We play hold em, Omaha hi/lo, follow the bitch, screw your neighbor, 3 card gut, 4's, OmaJack, 10 bust 30, 7.5&27.5
usally end the night with a game of inbetween, but we cap the amount of the biggest lose you can have is $50 and the biggest win you can have is $50, that way you cant try to win $300 and only have a lose of $50
they do not know most circus games, I will get @CraigT78 over to the house one of these days for a game so he teach us,
but it is just a fun night
any game that has blinds we play a full orbit
most other games are one hand then off to the next game
For us, if it's not here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zh7eeWhd4UUaSdQ2utc_6qukYyzRV4K8voAyCTA1No4/edit?usp=sharing
...it has to be fully explained and then approved by the group before it can be dealt. Anyone who wants to sit out and skip such a game, can.
It aint exactly poker, but we killed a limit night by playing Acey-Deucey. For those unfamiliar everyone antes and gets two cards. Starting with a player, you can wager up to the pot that the next card on top of the deck is between your two cards, or pass to the next player. If you're right you win your wager, if you're wrong your wager goes in the pot.
Only problem is we got a string of very bad luck, and suddenly the pot was larger than anyone but my stack. I managed to win it, but if I had lost then things would've gotten weird as no one would have enough chips to match the pot. I felt bad because I essentially won just because I chose to buy in the deepest, assuming it didn't matter for mixed limit games.
I feel like we must've been playing wrong, because if everyone's chips ended up in the middle I would've had no idea how to handle it. Was seriously considering just refunding everyone's buy ins lol.
Sounds like you’re playing it right, or at least how I was taught. Must have been really bad luck. But did no one want to add on? Since you control your own action, it doesn’t have to be table stakes. I can see allowing adding only when it’s not your turn, but otherwise I’d think it’d be okay to put more money on the table to win some back from the pot if you run out.
We had no rule against adding on as much as you want, just for a low stakes limit game no one wanted to drop $40+ to try to scoop the pot.
Statesvegas
Flush
When another player in my group hosts, we play the double board games as well as guts and I have found that the double board games generate significantly larger pots, but it may just be our players. He also allows three card guts, which has been brutal on occasion.
pokerplayingpisces
Full House
The following games are banned from my place:
-Between the sheets
One night during my old Thursday night league (I was not the host that night), this game was called. It grew from the original $10-$12 pot, to over 2K. One member ended up over $1,200 in the hole. It took him months to pay it back. I consider people that come to my place friends. I want them to be comfortable with their potential losses. It’s one thing to lose a couple hundred, but I don’t want anyone losing a mortgage payment.
-GUTZ
I just don’t like it
-Any wild card games
Maybe once a year, I’ll host an “old skool poker night”. Dealer’s choice, game changes on every deal. Just like the games I played in college and right after (before the Hold’em Boom). On those nights, I lift the restrictions on GUTZ and wildcard games. Only BTS stays on the banned list.
I’ve also done “No Hold’em Night”, too. Those nights the tourney is PLO, and NLHE joins the other games on the banned list.
-Between the sheets
One night during my old Thursday night league (I was not the host that night), this game was called. It grew from the original $10-$12 pot, to over 2K. One member ended up over $1,200 in the hole. It took him months to pay it back. I consider people that come to my place friends. I want them to be comfortable with their potential losses. It’s one thing to lose a couple hundred, but I don’t want anyone losing a mortgage payment.
-GUTZ
I just don’t like it
-Any wild card games
Maybe once a year, I’ll host an “old skool poker night”. Dealer’s choice, game changes on every deal. Just like the games I played in college and right after (before the Hold’em Boom). On those nights, I lift the restrictions on GUTZ and wildcard games. Only BTS stays on the banned list.
I’ve also done “No Hold’em Night”, too. Those nights the tourney is PLO, and NLHE joins the other games on the banned list.
I have questions...
Didn't he have to already have the chips on the table in order to lose them?
Letting someone play with that much, on credit? That's a recipe for potentially losing a friend. And it really has nothing to do with what game is being played. Give a player this much credit and they could just as easily lose it all playing hold'em.
Definitely agree, letting people play big with chips they haven't bought is a recipe for disaster, for everyone involved. You as the host/banker, because now you have to pay out someone from your own pocket and have another player indebted to you. Them as players, because it's much easier for them to get in way over their head betting with money they don't have.
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pokerplayingpisces
Full House
I was still playing in the weekly tournament for our league. The cash game started on another table, so I didn’t have all the details on what happened, and why they continued to let him play on credit. I just heard about it after it happened. Again, I was not the host, and it was not my game.
I would never let anyone play on credit at my place.
Agreed. I’ve been on the wrong end of matching the pot in a game like this. I see no point in it as it’s not poker in my mind.
I'm surprised at the amount of people that commented no to guts. It's an easy fast game. I don't get why it would be banned?
All the dealers choice games we play there are limit betting.
Typically 25c with 25c raises 3 raise max.
If a natural pair is on thd board it jumps to 50c. Last round of betting is $1
Players frequently use up the 3 max raise by betting 25c instead of 50c or $1 to keep whoever most likely has the nuts from getting the full amount possible.
In between is about the only game questionable that may be on the chopping block. For the most part my guys are anything goes.
There's a fun one a guy made up. His last name is fish so he calls it fish in the fish bowl.
Everyone gets 5 cards. Bet
Discard 3 cards must be 3 to the fishbowl and dealer washes them in a pile on the table. Everybody draws 3 cards from fish bowl followed by betting.
Then everybody discards 2 cards must be 2. Dealer washes. Players pick 2. Bet
1 card to fish bowl and back out.
What really sucked is last time I played I was dealt quad 10s from the start. Had to discard 3 cards so I folded. No way I was gonna win unless I could get lucky picking my cards back up. Not likely.
All the dealers choice games we play there are limit betting.
Typically 25c with 25c raises 3 raise max.
If a natural pair is on thd board it jumps to 50c. Last round of betting is $1
Players frequently use up the 3 max raise by betting 25c instead of 50c or $1 to keep whoever most likely has the nuts from getting the full amount possible.
In between is about the only game questionable that may be on the chopping block. For the most part my guys are anything goes.
There's a fun one a guy made up. His last name is fish so he calls it fish in the fish bowl.
Everyone gets 5 cards. Bet
Discard 3 cards must be 3 to the fishbowl and dealer washes them in a pile on the table. Everybody draws 3 cards from fish bowl followed by betting.
Then everybody discards 2 cards must be 2. Dealer washes. Players pick 2. Bet
1 card to fish bowl and back out.
What really sucked is last time I played I was dealt quad 10s from the start. Had to discard 3 cards so I folded. No way I was gonna win unless I could get lucky picking my cards back up. Not likely.
Our Indian friend calls the game every.single.time.
And it cracks us up every.single.time.
OP
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ArielVer18
Flush
Because it's similar to what we consider poker, but not exactly. Honestly I'm not sure what the exact definition of poker is, but no poker game takes multiple deal of the cards to find out the winner of the pot (okay as I'm typing this, maybe Draw Jacks or better)
Jimulacrum
Full House
It's hard to say exactly where poker begins and a game like Guts or Acey-Deucey begins. They all fall under the umbrella of pot-based community betting games. But it's clear that the idea of poker is broader than a 52-card deck and that list of hand ranks we all know.
jquizo
Sitting Out
I played in a dealers choice game (dealer button chose the game) but it was kind of like a spread limit game ($1-$5 bets), max 4 bets per round.
There was also some strategy that if people wanted a "cheaper" run out, they would just bet $1 instead of checking to limit the number of bets.
(Ex: A bets $5, B raises to $10, C and D raise $1 each to cap the betting to $12 and not allowing A and B to cap it to $20).
It wasn't a big game but it was probably the most fun I had playing poker if you just want to play some cards
There was also some strategy that if people wanted a "cheaper" run out, they would just bet $1 instead of checking to limit the number of bets.
(Ex: A bets $5, B raises to $10, C and D raise $1 each to cap the betting to $12 and not allowing A and B to cap it to $20).
It wasn't a big game but it was probably the most fun I had playing poker if you just want to play some cards
In spread limit, doesn't the last raise still set the minimum? If you reverse the ordering it works though. A bets $1, B raises $1, C and D raise by $5 you get a capped $12 pot.
Jimulacrum
Full House
I've played a version of spread limit where your raise isn't pegged to the last increment, so a player who wants to limit the action can raise just $1 to make it go $5, $10, $11, $12 (or whatever).
Not my favorite betting structure, but I've played it a few times.
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