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Derail and WTF Merge Thread (28 Viewers)

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Schmendr1ck said:
But yeah, lots of Americans only get 30 minutes for lunch.
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This definitely fits in the WFT thread! How are you not rioting??

Most jobs here are 8h with 1h lunch (excluded) and two 15 breaks (included) not for tea but for Swedish fika.
 
Mr Winberg said:
This definitely fits in the WFT thread! How are you not rioting??

Most jobs here are 8h with 1h lunch (excluded) and two 15 breaks (included) not for tea but for Swedish fika.
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US law does not require meal breaks, and when offered they are almost always excluded.

Short ("coffee") breaks of 5-20 minutes are generally included if offered, but again are not required by law.
 
Schmendr1ck said:
US law does not require meal breaks, and when offered they are almost always excluded.

Short ("coffee") breaks of 5-20 minutes are generally included if offered, but again are not required by law.
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If you're punching a clock, breaks (coffee, smoke, lunch) are almost universally unpaid.
 
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Mr Winberg said:
Most jobs here are 8h with 1h lunch (excluded) and two 15 breaks (included) not for tea but for Swedish fika.
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Schmendr1ck said:
US law does not require meal breaks, and when offered they are almost always excluded.
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WedgeRock said:
If you're punching a clock, breaks (coffee, smoke, cigarette) are almost universally unpaid.
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This last quote is important. There are tons of salaried jobs where you get a salary but do not punch a clock. Lunch is generally not included in these jobs, so for an unpaid lunch a lot of people opt for a half hour or 45 minute lunch so they can get home that much faster later on in the day.
Some corporations offer a flex where you can work some variant of 30 minutes extra every day for a month and get an extra day off every month.
But almost every job requires you take some sort of break, lunch, smoke, tea, mental, whatever, there is for sure some federal or state labor law that requires it. Edit: or union rule
 
WedgeRock said:
If you're punching a clock, breaks (coffee, smoke, lunch) are almost universally unpaid.
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ekricket said:
This last quote is important. There are tons of salaried jobs where you get a salary but do not punch a clock.
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Yeah, I guess I wasn't clear that the laws on taking breaks don't apply to many salaried workers. Those positions are called "exempt" because employers are exempt from paying overtime and meeting some other protections that hourly workers get.

But per the DOL (link below), the law is pretty clear that if hourly employees are given short rest (non-meal) breaks, those breaks are compensable time. They should be paid, and they should count against your time when paying overtime.

Employers who don't pay for these breaks certainly do exist, but they are breaking the law.

ekricket said:
But almost every job requires you take some sort of break, lunch, smoke, tea, mental, whatever, there is for sure some federal or state labor law that requires it. Edit: or union rule
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Quick google shows that 21 states have varying meal break requirements, and 9 states have rest ("coffee") break requirements. But most states don't, and there is no federal requirement either.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks
 
Schmendr1ck said:
Yeah, I guess I wasn't clear that the laws on taking breaks don't apply to many salaried workers. Those positions are called "exempt" because employers are exempt from paying overtime and meeting some other protections that hourly workers get.

But per the DOL (link below), the law is pretty clear that if hourly employees are given short rest (non-meal) breaks, those breaks are compensable time. They should be paid, and they should count against your time when paying overtime.

Employers who don't pay for these breaks certainly do exist, but they are breaking the law.


Quick google shows that 21 states have varying meal break requirements, and 9 states have rest ("coffee") break requirements. But most states don't, and there is no federal requirement either.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks
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I think the landscape is so varied across the nation that any attempt to normalize one way is not representative to foreign nationals who get their opinions from what they hear on the internet. The USA job market is not a sweat shop where workers are forced to choose between pay or food is where I was going.
 
ekricket said:
I think the landscape is so varied across the nation that any attempt to normalize one way is not representative to foreign nationals who get their opinions from what they hear on the internet. The USA job market is not a sweat shop where workers are forced to choose between pay or food is where I was going.
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Fair enough. I don't think anyone said that last part, though, but that's going down a political road that we should avoid here.

After all, I don't want to derail the Derail thread...
 

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