Feedback on a VERY early mock up, please? (1 Viewer)

[bivey]

Het Danny, want a Shasta?

In for a sample set when these are done. Great theme!

 

[quebert]

Welp, I'm not finding the font used for Country Club for shit, so I replaced it and I put a Royal Flush in the gophers hand, errr paw. Will probably be waaaaay to small to make out on a chip. But I thought the cards any bigger would look bad. The 1st might be a bit easier to see, but still too small? I found some tattered looking cards for the 2nd that sort of match the way the Bushwood font and gopher look. Thoughts on which looks better? And what size they should be?

thoughts on the font too, I went on every font identifier site I could find and Googled around for an hour and didn't find anything close to the one from the original image.

 

[Mrs Poker Zombie]

I think the dirtier cards look more appropriate.

 

[quebert]

*UPDATE* @p5woody did some work on the graphics and really knocked it out the park. Very close to having the finished design imo. Here's what he did

as always any feedback?

 

[p5woody]

No feedback on this one, what do people think?

 

[stocky]

No feedback on this one, what do people think?

Ship it

 

[quebert]

Hello to anyone who was following this thread, I was MIA for a good spell. If anyone's still interested tomorrow I'll be ordering a small test set of p5woody's design. I gotta reconnect with him and see if he has any time to finish the other 4 chips. I'm trying to have a full set made by Christmas. I won't be vanishing again.

Can't wait to see the 1st chip printed, if it looks as good as I think it will finishing up the others should be a piece of cake. p5woody if you read this I haven't forgotten about you and once we're back in contact I'll Paypal you some $$$ for your awesome work here.

 

[quebert]

actually no, before I order I have one last question on p5woody's mock up. The edge spots I had on the original pics I posted, do you guys think I should use those with his design? I definitely want edge spots but not sure what way to go there.

 

[200 Motels]

actually no, before I order I have one last question on p5woody's mock up. The edge spots I had on the original pics I posted, do you guys think I should use those with his design? I definitely want edge spots but not sure what way to go there.

I think each chip should have it's own accompanying edgespot color. In the prev posts they're all orange edge spots. I'd go with orange on one of them but other complimentary colors for the remainder.

Also, there's a tonne of things you can do with the edge stripe patterns. You can even design it to look like a bud jones edge spot with dots. Search for 'Ceramic chip edges' or something in google image search and you'll see the possibilities.

 

[Adam Crowley]

I would try some different options with the denom as well. It looks a little out of place to me. I don't have any suggestions, it just sticks out which makes me think it doesn't fit the chip as well as it could.

 

[quebert]

hummm, I see what you're saying about the denom, maybe having it on the backside of the chip also is too much. I didn't really see a thing here, but now that you mention it I'm thinking a new direction.

Okay, 1st test set ordering is pushed back a few days until I can figure out if something else will look better for the denom.

 

[Ellasdaddy]

I'd suggest removing the gopher from the front banner and remove the denom from the gopher side.

If you must have a denom on that side, I'd maybe move the design up further toward the chip edge and incorporate the denom at the chip bottom, maybe partially layered in front of "Poker Club".

 

[Ellasdaddy]

Love this idea, by the way. I wouldn't shut up with the movie quotes during your game.

 

[quebert]

Welp, way too many years have passed since I started this thread. Had good intentions, but life got in the way and I pushed poker as a whole to the side. If anyone from the thread's still around, I'm back on here for the 1st time since 2017, and to anyone new, I'll repost the earily mock ups, which are coming up as X.

I fully intend to *finally* put in the work to get these finished. Caddyshack is a timeless classic IMHO, so as for the chips. Even 5+ years later, I guess better late than never? And of course there's still a ton of work that needs to be done. Like tracking down the old people who were going to help, and finding the original artist to reconnect and figure out how much $$$ he wants for the use of his drawing. God willing all of them are safe, still around, and still willing to make a lil $$$ helping bring these chips to life.

Worse case scenario, if I gotta find a new chip designer and work from there, so be it. I want these chips done badly. I'm looking for any feedback from others. Originally I fell in love with ceramics from BR Poker, but then I started really really liking the clays I was seeing from CPC. I'm really torn here, both would be awesome, a ceramic set for a cash game, and a clay set for tourney. But, I really need to focus on getting ANY chip made before I start thinking about 2 totally different sets lol.


Here are the early mock ups, from what I remember I found the gopher drawing and put the cards in his hand, and a guy on here did the other and made a bunch of little awesome changes to the gopher image. I'm not a graphic designer, but I can figure out stuff. I know nothing about designing poker chips though. These were made with 39 or 43mm ceramics in mind. Not sure if all the text and detail would translate well to a clay CPC that has much less room for the label. Again I'm not an artist, but hopefully, the guy who was helping me's still around, still interested, and will have time. This is still far off, but I feel it needs to get finished so I'm going to get the ball re-rolling again starting right now.

Looking for feedback on ceramics vs clay.

 

[Mrs Poker Zombie]

Welcome back to the design process!

My concern is when you shrink down the above images to chip size (even oversized), you won't be able to read it. Have you tried printing it to give it a test run?

 

[quebert]

Welcome back to the design process!

My concern is when you shrink down the above images to chip size (even oversized), you won't be able to read it. Have you tried printing it to give it a test run?

Thank you, while I have no memory of your question, in the 1st message I posted how I printed a test on my laser printer to size. And I said it looked pretty decent. Now this would have been B&W, but it would have been the same size as a 39mm chip. I'm usually very critical of myself so if I thought it looked decent, it was to my liking and for sure the text was legible. I do remember one of my initial main concerns was the graphi details and text would be too small to translate to a small chip. I think if I go with ceramics, it'll be 43mm all the way. My printers not working at the moment, but I'll go into Photoshop and upsize the original to the same as a 43mm chip and find a neighbors to print it at and see how it looks.

Unfortunately, I just saw a post in another thread from the guy on here who was helping me original saying he no longer does chip design. Which sucks, but I know there are other great ones on here. This is definitely too much of an undertaking for me, but I'll find a new person and go from there I guess.

 

[allforcharity]

I fear that even with full face 43mm printing on ceramic, some of your detail is going to get lost. You'll need to experiment with text and graphic sizes.

Great idea to split things between the two chip faces. Long text phrases can also be put on the rolling edge.

 

[LinkyBabe]

My concern is when you shrink down the above images to chip size (even oversized), you won't be able to read it.

I agree with this. I had to zoom in on my screen in order to see that there's an 18th hole flag next to the gopher. I also imagine not being able to read the bottom banner text on the Rodney Dangerfield side.

 

[quebert]

I fear that even with full face 43mm printing on ceramic, some of your detail is going to get lost. You'll need to experiment with text and graphic sizes.

Great idea to split things between the two chip faces. Long text phrases can also be put on the rolling edge.

And what you said's a good thing, because when I do a 43mm test print and see what's too detailed. It gets removed and the final design becomes that much easier to finish. I do remember the text looked fine. I just read thru all my emails back and forth with the designer on here. Seems we were a lot further along than I recall. Will still need some help finishing them, but a lot of it's already there.

Your text on the edge idea sounds interesting, whoever ends up helping me will understand all of this far better than me. So I suspect these chips will turn out great.

Well, if you like Caddyshack, if you don't know the movie or don't like it this would be an awful set lol.

 

[quebert]

So I'm working on some design stuff right now, thinking 1 chip with 2 different designs. Didn't realize BRPro would do a custom chip order for as low as 25 chips I thought it was 100 for some reason. So for around $80 I could get 2 samples done and know better what should be be changed from there. I don't know what's typical as far as how many reversions until a chip's ready. I'm hoping if neither of the 1st 2 designs are great, I'll have enough of a base to have it finalized by the 3th test run. 500 chips for .94 is a great deal. Would give me plenty for a home tourney and extras for the people here who collect sets of any and all chips. Also going to do a 60mm dealer button and 2 plaques. And rebuy, bounty and show 'em, which I don't know but could be 49mm. The games I've played in none had extra chips like that.

so ugh, that means potentially multiple sets of 7 to get shit right. And the plaques, dealer buttons and 49mm chips would be expensive compared to the 43.

damn, this is probably going to be a lot more pricey than I've been picturing in my head. Anyone who's made a set of custom ceramics from BR I'm all ears here.

 

[quebert]

I have a weird request maybe somebody here can help. I asked the neighbors I know if I could use their printer to make a test print. 3 don't have printers 2 don't have any ink and 1 the printer isn't working. So I went to CVS to use their print station, it's out of order. If anyone here has a printer, don't care about color and could print this out and tell me how the text on the bottom banner looks? I made the image 43x43mm 300dpi so it should print real close to how it would look on chips. I've spent 2 days trying to find a damn printer to use, crazy how hard something that should be dead simple's turning out to be lol. On the screen I know the image looks ginormous on the screen when you click on it, but it'll print 43mm. I'm thinking the text will be too small to read so before I submit the artwork to BR to get the 1st test set I'm thinking someone here might be able to assist me.

I'll offer a free sample set once they're done to whoever can help here, I might want a couple more prints to check sizes. Hopefully I'll find someone on my block with a working printer for future help here.

 

[LinkyBabe]

I'm thinking the text will be too small to read

Yes it is too small... your chip on my phone is a little bigger than one of my 60mm dealer buttons (approx 63mm). When I hold my phone at an arms length away I can barely make out the bottom banner. Even without moving my phone away from my face I still can't tell that's an 18th hole flag to the right of the gopher. This will be even worse on a 43mm chip.

 

[quebert]

Yes it is too small... your chip on my phone is a little bigger than one of my 60mm dealer buttons (approx 63mm). When I hold my phone at an arms length away I can barely make out the bottom banner and I definitely can't tell that's an 18th hole flag to the right of the gopher. This will be even worse on a 43mm chip.

Thanks, but that's not going to be 100% accurate. Even high end phone screens max out at 240dpi, a lot are 180, printers can print at 300dpi, which will make a noticeable difference in detail. I'm not saying it'll be readable printed, I don't think it will myself. But it will look different printed as opposed to on a screen. So that's why I'm not using my phone screen to gauge anything here. I found someone with a printer that works and actually has ink. They'll be back in a few days so I'll go check this out then.

As far as the 18 on the flag that 100% will look like a blob, but the flag will be visible and that's all I care about there, I probably should just remove the 18th from it lol thanks for mentioning that.

 

[LinkyBabe]

I've spent 2 days trying to find a damn printer to use,

Have you tried Walmart?

 

[LinkyBabe]

Even high end phone screens max out at 240dpi, a lot are 180

My phone has a pixel density of 570 PPI.

I have the artwork that was used for both my custom CPC sets and it is night and day clearer on my phone than what was printed by CPC. And printed text on ceramics isn't as clear as inlays/labels.

EDIT: In fairness I'm comparing the sets when the inlays were originally produced in 2017... CPC's printing quality has improved greatly since then. That said, printing on ceramics always appears fuzzy so finer details and small text doesn't fair well on them even more so. I'm glad that you're at least trying to take advantage of what ceramics do well and that is offer full customization, rather than try and make them look like clay chips like I see most people doing lately.

 

[joeyshin]

If you need chip ideas that would be sweet with those labels try some of these

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[Mrs Poker Zombie]

I’m happy to print and send you screenshots. PM me if you wish.

 

[quebert]

If you need chip ideas that would be sweet with those labels try some of theseView attachment 846029View attachment 846030View attachment 846031View attachment 846032View attachment 846033View attachment 846034.

I do like those, but for the artwork I got the size of those inlays would be far too small. As it is, I'm going to be struggling to make a 43mm chip with the artwork basically taking up the entire face work. And I still might need to do a lot of work to make the artwork look right. Only other option would be to make them 60mm chips, which I doubt has even been done because 60mm poker chips outside of dealer buttons and bounty type chips would be a terrible idea lol. Not to mention a 500 chip set would cost an arm and a leg.

 

[quebert]

My phone has a pixel density of 570 PPI.

I have the artwork that was used for both my custom CPC sets and it is night and day clearer on my phone than what was printed by CPC. And printed text on ceramics isn't as clear as inlays/labels.

EDIT: In fairness I'm comparing the sets when the inlays were originally produced in 2017... CPC's printing quality has improved greatly since then. That said, printing on ceramics always appears fuzzy so finer details and small text doesn't fair well on them even more so. I'm glad that you're at least trying to take advantage of what ceramics do well and that is offer full customization, rather than try and make them look like clay chips like I see most people doing lately.

Thats good to know, I didn't even think about how ceramic printing might possibly look worse than on paper. So I guess ultimately I just need to get the initial artwork done and pay to have 25 test chips made and go from there. Thinking about it, I know some people put text on the edge instead of edge spots, and I know BR's chips are right around 3mm thick, so I can work with that in Photoshop and see what fits in that space.

 

[quebert]

BUMP, it's been... ugh a lot of years now lol. Life got in the way of anything fun for me especially things that involved $$$. BruceWayne somehow also had came up with a Caddy Shack design and just finished his after 3 years of work. Life's still getting in the way for me, but in a few months I'm going to have free time, and more importantly extra $$$. I know nobody's still following this, but anyone who was interested back in 2016 that's still around, or people who find this today.

These are coming in 2024, January I'm going to set aside money and jump in. BruceWayne's set came out amazing and has really inspired me. I stopped thinking about these chips almost completely, but recently they popped in my head, Then a few days later I got a notification out of nowhere from him replying asking me if I ever finished my chips. I feel like that was a sign.

A few posts back there's a sample of 1 of the chips, I had samples of others but the site hosting the pics's long gone. I'm on a new computer so I gotta go back and dig thru a bunch of external drives until I find the graphics I was working on and get everything reorganized. I haven't played poker in ages, I want to get a game going before summer 2024 and I absolutely have to have these chips to use in it. I know if I read back thru this thread this will be probably the 3rd time since 2016 where I've proclaimed "they're coming!" This time I'm dead serious. The proverbial fire has been lit under my ass.


Bruce's set is really really nice, and are very different from mine so I won't feel like I'm trying to make a copy cat knock off Temu set lol.