Feedback on custom CSQ cash set "The Paradox" (2 Viewers)

[paraDoxl]

Btw: A variant where I think Lavender might be ok, but I'm not sure if the contrast between the blue and the lavender is enough

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[BGinGA]

Green/blue 25 and blue/green 500 just don't work

^This. Design 101: Don't use similar colors on two different chips.

 

[paraDoxl]

Design 101: Don't use similar colors on two different chips.

Good point, but where to draw the border? Is it ok to have the blue edge spots on the yellow and also have a blue chip (even only one denomination lower)? Is it ok to use blurple as edge spot on the 25 and then use Lavender as Edge spot on the blue? I guess opinions might differ when it comes to details, but @SteveEH certainly had a point that there was too much green on that iteration of the 500

 

[SteveEH]

Btw: A variant where I think Lavender might be ok, but I'm not sure if the contrast between the blue and the lavender is enough

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This is much better to differentiate between the 25 and 500. The 5 kinda looked like a 3 to me, maybe because of the shadow? Make sure to do an arms length test of a printed actual inlay size

 

[paraDoxl]

This is much better to differentiate between the 25 and 500. The 5 kinda looked like a 3 to me, maybe because of the shadow? Make sure to do an arms length test of a printed actual inlay size

That's a great hint regarding the 5. Thanks! Unfortunately, it is by far the worst number in the Escher Grotesk font... Printout + arms length test are definitely on the list

 

[SixSpeedFury]

If you're adamant on using a blue base for the 500, try a lighter shade instead.

 

[GreatWhiteDope]

My personal prejudices come into play here. I am not a fan of the V edge spots but I do like the way it plays on your 2000 chip. But maybe you get close to the same effect on the 500 chip with a 3TA316 spot instead. That then also gives you the chance to play with other colors. I like bright edge spots on darker chips but there are lots of ways you can take the possibilities here. Below are some of my thoughts using colors you have used already and a few new ones. In order, a nod to your current color combo, your current color combo with bright white for some pop, lots of bright colors for max pop, a darker theme and lastly a nod to the Austrian flag. If I had to pick, I think I like the darker theme. I think it plays well with your other edge spots.

 

[paraDoxl]

Thanks a lot, I like that nod to the Austrian Flag very much. Interesting that I never thought of this variant, because I have tried 3TA316 with my hometown flag (green-white-blue) with dayglo colors and bright white, which didn't really work because of dg peacock on blue and the repeated green, as other members pointed out. But it hasn't occurred to me yet that I could also use the Austrian flag (or maybe also the flag of my home federal state) could work here.

Also toyed around a bit with 3TA316 and I've tried a combination i found quite interesting. Very sunrise-like. Might be a bit too much, but I guess I'll know once I've slept on it:

Also seems to work for pink to lavender

 

[GreatWhiteDope]

Thanks a lot, I like that nod to the Austrian Flag very much. Interesting that I never thought of this variant, because I have tried 3TA316 with my hometown flag (green-white-blue) with dayglo colors and bright white, which didn't really work because of dg peacock on blue and the repeated green, as other members pointed out. But it hasn't occurred to me yet that I could also use the Austrian flag (or maybe also the flag of my home federal state) could work here.

Also toyed around a bit with 3TA316 and I've tried a combination i found quite interesting. Very sunrise-like. Might be a bit too much, but I guess I'll know once I've slept on it:View attachment 1459060

Also seems to work for pink to lavender

There are definitely a lot of different color combinations that work with the blue.

 

[paraDoxl]

Shifted the orange spectrum to be one nuance darker, like the result better. Seems to also fit better with the other chips. (Mind I did this on mobile, still with the old inlays, but I suppose I will stick with the newer ones)

 

[Phoe9x]

Take this all with a grain of salt, but sometimes I think a completely different approach to a design can help think through what you want or don't want (might even solidify your own choices!). I spent about an hour quickly remaking the inlays and just threw together a 5 min edgespot progression w/ shaped inlays (building off yours some).

Throw it all out if you want, but just conceptually where my brain goes with the overall theme if I was going to start it.

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For a 5 min mockup this is beautiful. The amount of quality sets you’ve made in the time you’ve joined is crazy

 

[GreatWhiteDope]

Shifted the orange spectrum to be one nuance darker, like the result better. Seems to also fit better with the other chips. (Mind I did this on mobile, still with the old inlays, but I suppose I will stick with the newer ones)

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I like where you ended but I have to say I am completely enamored with the 2000 chip from Cratty's last mockup and think it would round out this set perfectly. You almost don't notice the shaped inlay but it looks like the edge spot has little points which I think is awesome. And you don't have the blue of the edge spot tying into the blue from the 500 chip.

 

[paraDoxl]

I am completely enamored with the 2000 chip from Cratty's last mockup and think it would round out this set perfectly. You almost don't notice the shaped inlay but it looks like the edge spot has little points which I think is awesome. And you don't have the blue of the edge spot tying into the blue from the 500 chip.

You're right, the 1/4 Pie pattern fits very nicely with the 4 Points inlay shape. But I fear I'm not too fond of 1/4 Pie and its variations, I'd rather just stay with the 4V12 version I currently have.

I can imagine a couple of variants, but as always, there are cons to each option:

1. Stay with what I have. Con: Blue Chip having similar color to edge spot on yellow chip

2. Adjusting edge spot on yellow chip to use Blurple/Lavender instead of Retro Blue/DG Peacock. Con: Blurple is also used at spot color for green chip. (Have tried some options to use for green instead, didn't like any better than blurple. Could use retro blue or maybe blue though)

3. Using a brighter base color for the blue chip as suggested by @SixSpeedFury Con: Personal preference. Thought of using light blue or grey. Both seem a bit boring to me. Also, grey is used as spot color in the 100 chip. I'd probably prefer to use DG Peacock as body color here, but that is also being used in the 2000 chip...

4. Use purple as base color for the 500. Cons: Again, blurple used in the green 25 and personal preference - I just like the color of my blue samples better than that of the purple samples

Currently, I'd take the con of option 1 and stay with what I currently have - the other variants all seem to break something else in this brittle construct of a set.

 

[GreatWhiteDope]

You're right, the 1/4 Pie pattern fits very nicely with the 4 Points inlay shape. But I fear I'm not too fond of 1/4 Pie and its variations, I'd rather just stay with the 4V12 version I currently have.

I can imagine a couple of variants, but as always, there are cons to each option:

1. Stay with what I have. Con: Blue Chip having similar color to edge spot on yellow chip

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2. Adjusting edge spot on yellow chip to use Blurple/Lavender instead of Retro Blue/DG Peacock. Con: Blurple is also used at spot color for green chip. (Have tried some options to use for green instead, didn't like any better than blurple. Could use retro blue or maybe blue though)

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3. Using a brighter base color for the blue chip as suggested by @SixSpeedFury Con: Personal preference. Thought of using light blue or grey. Both seem a bit boring to me. Also, grey is used as spot color in the 100 chip. I'd probably prefer to use DG Peacock as body color here, but that is also being used in the 2000 chip...

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4. Use purple as base color for the 500. Cons: Again, blurple used in the green 25 and personal preference - I just like the color of my blue samples better than that of the purple samples

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Currently, I'd take the con of option 1 and stay with what I currently have - the other variants all seem to break something else in this brittle construct of a set.

And this is where the bottom line comes in. These are your chips and you are the only one whose preferences really matters. As I said earlier, I think you have arrived at a good place and I wish you many years enjoyment with them. Thanks for letting us come along for the ride.

 

[paraDoxl]

Thanks a lot for the wishes, and thanks a lot to you and the rest of this awesome community for your ideas, your feedback and the knowledge you've shared!

 

[allforcharity]

There is no guarantee that if you use a 1/4 pie and the 4-notched shaped inlay that the pie transition will align perfectly with the notches.

 

[Phoe9x]

There is no guarantee that if you use a 1/4 pie and the 4-notched shaped inlay that the pie transition will align perfectly with the notches.

True, however I found the inlays to be pretty consistent (~80%) with my recent CPC set, and it followed the mockup photos. If you have some OCD-ish issues then doing this isn’t a good idea.

 

[paraDoxl]

I have a non-design related question here regarding my order at CPC: I think it might be a nice way to give something back to the community to provide samples for people who might be interested. From what I've come across in this forum, people have done that before. Do you have any recommendations for that? Is this something to offer in the group buy section of the classifieds?

I would like to avoid ordering additional chips when there is no demand for that (and I can imagine it would not even be there anyways)

 

[GreatWhiteDope]

I actually asked Dave Spragg about ordering some extras for this purpose and it was too late for me to do that but he did say that if there are any extra chips from the manufacturing, and there usually are, they do send them along. But I would like to see how yours turn out, so I would be interested in swapping samples with you when each of our sets come in.

 

[paraDoxl]

So, I placed my order with David a couple of days ago and then had a change of heart regarding the 500. I switched to DG Peacock as base color and used retro red instead of mandarin red for the 3TA316 spot. Luckily, it wasn't too late to accomodate those changes and David doesn't see an increased risk of split spots, so yay, here's what the chips should look like in their final form:

Also, I've ordered a custom dealer button from Poker Chip Lounge. Arrived at my US-based brother's yesterday (along with other stuff )

And now we play the waiting game!

PS: @GreatWhiteDope I guess we could arrange that. I'll leave an update here as soon as my order has arrived