legend672
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Isn't this a given ? The risk is inherent on anything shipped. The seller can only do so much.
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Mine Help me (I am being stolen by A. Tim.) (1 Viewer)
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Isn't this a given ? The risk is inherent on anything shipped. The seller can only do so much.
Shaggy
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As a long time eBay seller, this scenario hits close to home. I agree with everything liftapint says above. Additionally, international shipping is sometimes subject to customs inspection... where agents open packages, inspect, and then repackage. The repackage step is the issue. Is the end result packaged as well as it was to begin with... maybe not.
Additionally, the return shipping back to France... is costly. In this case, I view the seller as being responsible for the return shipping cost.
Additionally, the return shipping back to France... is costly. In this case, I view the seller as being responsible for the return shipping cost.
This is the problem. I won't use E-Bay for this reason. I was burned a few years ago selling a collectable set (not poker chips, but coffee mugs) on E-Bay and the buyer reported one of a set that arrived broken. She received a full refund and was able to keep the whole shipment. I was out several hundred dollars and had zero recourse. As the seller I should have been able to receive the items back, but nope, I was in the same boat as the OP. I feel your frustration.
Shaggy
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That risk is not the buyer's... it is the seller's.
Shaggy
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I recently had an item returned to me from an eBay buyer that did not understand the listing. In that case, the funds were held in limbo until I received the item back. Once received, I clicked a button to issue refund. This was a couple months ago. In this case, I do not understand why the funds have been returned without the item being returned.
legend672
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This is an example of posting before puffing.
I apologize for this careless post, and for anyone I offended.
It's possible it wasn't reported as a return? The OP states it was reported as not receiving the package.
Like the saying goes
"Poker is a lot like sex, everyone thinks they are the best, but most don’t have a clue what they are doing."
I suppose the same applies to packing. That being said, maybe you can go overboard too? Probably don't need to use $10 worth of foam, but dammit I use it anyway [emoji3]
Seriously though, once people pay for the chips, they are no longer yours, so you are obligated to pack and ship in a careful manner.
Shaggy
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That is a good point.
I once bought 50 Aztar primary 1k chips from Jim at the Chiproom. When I reported that they didn't arrive he offered full refund or 50 more in another shipment. I as always ended up being more than satisfied with his actions.
I also had a shipment I sent to a CT member long ago that USPS damaged so badly that only 900 of the original 1300 were playable. I offered either full refund or partial if he wanted the 900.
Since then nothing leaves my possession without being fully insured. It's more than worth what you pay for it if something goes wrong.
Pack like it's gonna be run over by a truck, insure it, and hope it goes ok.
I also had a shipment I sent to a CT member long ago that USPS damaged so badly that only 900 of the original 1300 were playable. I offered either full refund or partial if he wanted the 900.
Since then nothing leaves my possession without being fully insured. It's more than worth what you pay for it if something goes wrong.
Pack like it's gonna be run over by a truck, insure it, and hope it goes ok.
Contender for "dumbest post of the year in a non-political thread"
legend672
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I apologized , what do you want blood ?
AllinBallin
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Looks like poker chips might start the next world war...where do I enlist?
Replied before I read the rest of the thread... I can still nominate a bad movie for a Razzie even if I walked out halfway through
AllinBallin
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I know Stardust poker mansion are from Canada so we will be coming for those since they are our neighbors...To some point, but we dont know what was offered or not.
Be assured that we' ll defend our ACF chips till the last one
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Bobb59
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My first error is to have wanted to make small 21.70€ shipment charges.
Expenses in a cardboard(box) self-assuredly cost 53€.
I always made that, and you always received your tokens.
Here indeed there was one concerns(marigolds), I am willing to be responsible to pay off 20 chips disappeared.
But make a request be paid off $200 and besides keeping tokens seems to me completely crazy
Expenses in a cardboard(box) self-assuredly cost 53€.
I always made that, and you always received your tokens.
Here indeed there was one concerns(marigolds), I am willing to be responsible to pay off 20 chips disappeared.
But make a request be paid off $200 and besides keeping tokens seems to me completely crazy
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Bobb59
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95 chips for $200
75 chips for $157
I want that Tim makes me the money which he owes to me. OK to set has my load the damage of the loss of 20 chips.
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75 chips for $157
I want that Tim makes me the money which he owes to me. OK to set has my load the damage of the loss of 20 chips.
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bergs
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I'm just happy that Bobb59 isn't being stolen by Ande Tim.
Invasion is off fellas. Enjoy your weekend.
Invasion is off fellas. Enjoy your weekend.
Good points, Mel.
I agree that it's the seller's responsibility to ensure that the chips are delivered in good condition to the buyer. However, international sales have the added wrinkle of customs, which is where some items seem to disappear, and not all packages are insurable or tracked. This is why some sellers require that international buyers assume the responsibility for things going awry. Proper packaging is always the responsibility of the seller.
Psypher1000
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maxim_666666
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I also live in Europe and can something to say.
I had the same story, with the disappearance of chips ...
Jim quickly solved the problem.
(and it shows that the losses - it's part of the business ... unpleasant, but part of it ...
as well it should be noted that, according to international laws, until the buyer has not received the parcel, it belongs to the sender ...)
All parcels received from members of the community were packed just great .... perfectly .. as opposed to unknown guys from eBay.
I do not think that @Bobb59 packed up their bad.
Customs often opens my parcel. And the most that use these goats is an adhesive tape. loss could happen there ..
if I do not get the goods, then I demand a full refund.
if it happens that the parcel still came (even after a couple of months), regardless of the reason, I'm trying to track down the seller and pay him.
In this case, it would be fair to compensate the losses of the Seller.
it is not about the bike, with whom did not come the wheel.
we all know how frustrating to lose chips.
"Laws" on the buyer's side.
but the law is only a crutch for morality.
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I had the same story, with the disappearance of chips ...
Jim quickly solved the problem.
(and it shows that the losses - it's part of the business ... unpleasant, but part of it ...
as well it should be noted that, according to international laws, until the buyer has not received the parcel, it belongs to the sender ...)
All parcels received from members of the community were packed just great .... perfectly .. as opposed to unknown guys from eBay.
I do not think that @Bobb59 packed up their bad.
Customs often opens my parcel. And the most that use these goats is an adhesive tape. loss could happen there ..
if I do not get the goods, then I demand a full refund.
if it happens that the parcel still came (even after a couple of months), regardless of the reason, I'm trying to track down the seller and pay him.
In this case, it would be fair to compensate the losses of the Seller.
it is not about the bike, with whom did not come the wheel.
we all know how frustrating to lose chips.
"Laws" on the buyer's side.
but the law is only a crutch for morality.
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Bobb59
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Marius L
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It is a pretty bullshit move to keep both the chips that were not damaged AND get the full refund. That is in no way fair. I mean, lets be honest here...
edited to add: If the buyer is not happy with the chips, then at least have the decency to ship the chips back. (seller to pay shiping)
edited to add: If the buyer is not happy with the chips, then at least have the decency to ship the chips back. (seller to pay shiping)
AllinBallin
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I agree, to keep the chips and the money is a punk move.
Only one side of the story being told here, folks. I'm not defending anybody, but I'm not jumping to any conclusions, either.
Nobody here knows exactly what transpired, other than that Bobb59 has accused another member of being a thief without supplying any proof of said accusation.
Nobody here knows exactly what transpired, other than that Bobb59 has accused another member of being a thief without supplying any proof of said accusation.
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Bobb59
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I do not accuse it of being a thief. I tell facts. I tell what he(it) crosses(spends) it for the moment. I have already made full of purchases and blow here with payment in paypal gift without having of concerns(marigolds) (you are many has the knowledge)
If the chips are not going to be returned the chips that are kept need to be paid for. I wish we would hear from the other side, or at least the seller would anyway.
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