There's not much talk of these and I don't see them in the Redneck card database. Anyone know how they compare to KEMs and other acetate cards?
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Hoyle cellulose acetate? (2 Viewers)
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NotRealNameNoSir
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Woah, pretty cards. Pick em up and let us know how they are, beautiful.
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Woah, Google already indexed my post. That was fast!
I found another set with a different design that I liked a little better so I bought those instead. But here's the link the sailboat set if you're interested, seller has 6 for sale. It's pretty cheap so I'm considering picking up that set too: https://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Plasti...-Old-Stock-Made-in-USA-Bridge-sz/132788681761
Here's the design I went with:
I found another set with a different design that I liked a little better so I bought those instead. But here's the link the sailboat set if you're interested, seller has 6 for sale. It's pretty cheap so I'm considering picking up that set too: https://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Plasti...-Old-Stock-Made-in-USA-Bridge-sz/132788681761
Here's the design I went with:
I saw those - the only problem with them is they’re the same, so no good for a two deck rotation. But if you play with a single deck, that’s a score.
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Sweet, thanks. Setup on the way, I'll try them and report back. Good luck with yours too, that's a pretty yellow.
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Interesting. I read in a post here that USPC owns both KEM and Hoyle so the assumption is that they could be a Hoyle label, but KEM product line.
But then... I saw this:
The date on the back of the box of the cards says 1999 and USPC didn't acquire Hoyle until 2001 and KEM in 2004. Maybe there's still a collaboration, but perhaps directly between KEM and Hoyle prior to the acquisition.
But then... I saw this:
The date on the back of the box of the cards says 1999 and USPC didn't acquire Hoyle until 2001 and KEM in 2004. Maybe there's still a collaboration, but perhaps directly between KEM and Hoyle prior to the acquisition.
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Ah good point, I'm still new to this so didn't think about that.
Will do. Curious, how was the quality of the KEMs in that 1999 era?
That’s before they were bought by UPCC, and they’re the stuff of legends. Though they also have an annoying habit of bowing (as they still do.) Search for KEM warping or KEM bowing or pre-UPCC KEM.
Edit, yeah my bad, make that USPC
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Yeah, I'm one of the haters for sure but at $14 for a pretty setup I'll take my chances and use the defense strategies with the button on top lol.
Judging from the Jokers, my money is on standard index but I'll hit you up if not.
My money is there too, just because jumbo KEMs are wrapped with a 10 on the bottom, so you can see they’re jumbo. Not that these are for certain KEMs. But anything is possible, including a slightly larger size standard - who knows?
NotRealNameNoSir
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Is this the part where I throw a jab about those looking like they're made from grandma's couch? It makes it funnier that its coming from a "Judy"!
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Oh I like that design even better.
So I guess we'll report back here when the cards arrive
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I was thinking it's good 80s kitsch, but they printed it in 1999...
Yeah, they’re reminiscent of some other vintage Kem decks that I have. Good thing it’s what’s on the other side that matters.
They’re definitely not KEMS. They’re a lot thinner and a bit flexier and they have a smooth, non-textured, almost glossy finish. They don’t remind me of any deck I’ve ever handled. They seem to shuffle and pitch well though, so they could be a good setup. Though they don’t feel like they’re going to be durable, for whatever that’s worth.
Here are the face cards and here they are, 52 stacked next to a deck of 52 KEMS. They do seem to have a slight bow, (straight out of the 30 year old plastic wrap) so they’re not totally unlike KEMs, ha!
Here are the face cards and here they are, 52 stacked next to a deck of 52 KEMS. They do seem to have a slight bow, (straight out of the 30 year old plastic wrap) so they’re not totally unlike KEMs, ha!
NotRealNameNoSir
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Wow, very interested in the feel if they're flexier than KEMs. Love that Ace of spades.
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They’re also thin — about .0110” and light — about 187 grams for a bridge size card. Compared to my new Desjgn card at 225 grams that’s about 17% lighter.
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Sorry, 1.87 and 2.25 grams. 
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Odd, why can't I edit my previous posts? Is that a paid premium or seniority feature?
Oops, derp. Found the option. I was looking off to the right. Carry on.
Oops, derp. Found the option. I was looking off to the right. Carry on.
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FordPickup92
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I bought 2 different ones of these will post results upon arrival
NotRealNameNoSir
4 of a Kind
Okay, bought those in the OP. They do feel tiny and thin, but I like the simple plastic case. I agree with durability doubts; I'm usually a fan of stiffer and grippier cards and these are very flexy and smooth. We'll see if the apes like them, if nothing else they'll be good vacation cards. Thanks for the heads up on them. Definitely happy for less than $15 bucks, they feel fine.
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FordPickup92
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So I bought 2 different ones of these
First ones were here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1456582453...z8mJfK5RrK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
They are plastic coated paper, bent and incredibly/warped/used and extremely thick..don't handle well at all. Imo.
First ones were here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1456582453...z8mJfK5RrK&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
They are plastic coated paper, bent and incredibly/warped/used and extremely thick..don't handle well at all. Imo.
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Yeah those look different than the ones we bought in this thread. Ours say plastic cellulose acetate on the packaging.
Azanulbizar
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After seeing the OP and doing a quick search, I came across these online: 
They are being sold as.individual decks. Although it's the same design on each deck offered, the bridge JI sold me. If anyone is interested, there were still a couple left and at a decent price imo.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132512305524?
I haven't opened them yet, but I figure they are similar/the same as the cards reviewed above.
They are being sold as.individual decks. Although it's the same design on each deck offered, the bridge JI sold me. If anyone is interested, there were still a couple left and at a decent price imo.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132512305524?
I haven't opened them yet, but I figure they are similar/the same as the cards reviewed above.
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