I want to buy a smoker (4 Viewers)

Costco sells these at their "road show" events. It's the best option price-wise. Here's a link to the schedule below. Looks like they'll be in Tukwila 4/10-4/19. The only problem is that these things are INSANELY heavy. It's about 400+ lbs. I had to leave mine in the back of my SUV for a week before I could get someone to help me set it up. It's super heavy and the weight distribution is very awkward to deal with.

https://www.costco.com/kamado-joe-schedule.html

I love that you have done all the research~!

Why, oh why, couldn't I have asked this question BEFORE 4/19???

>400 pounds? YIKES. I'd have to hire someone to help me get it out of the SUV.

All of these food photos are making me HUNGRY!
 
Mel, you should talk to @Random Phish. He’s got a killer set up and makes insane smoked meat.
I’ve had me some @Random Phish brisket and it’s awesome.
I have a Weber smoky mountain and I love it. I also smoke on my Weber kettle. I think the electric ones and pellet ones are easier and more precise, but that takes the fun out of it for me.
The king of the smoker around here is @Azcat but he is rarely on the forum. After many years he switched to a Trager (could be spelled wrong) pellet smoker and he loves it. He has hands down made the best bbq I’ve eaten over the years.
 
Ribs last night on the kettle.
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What's great about a kettle is that you can do everything else as well like a pizza.
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I have a Traeger Timberline 850
I use as smoker and grill, helped me retire my Weber propane
Has some cool stuff like Wi-Fire that lets you blue tooth to your phone
However the bigger hopper to hold pellets is why I would stick with that over the newer iron wood
Even with wi-fire i still use other thermometers for smoking
We grill once or twice a week @ 450-475 with great searing
Traeger pellets are easily available with some good flavors
I like to use one harder smoke bag like pecan,maple mixed with fruit like cherry or apple wood
 
One thing I learned from the stupid amount of research I did for mine, is that you almost can't go wrong with whatever you choose. You will find advocates for every option, and you'll be able to cook up some delicious food on any of them. Some smokers are more capable than others, and some will never win any competitions, but all can make great food, and they all have their tradeoffs.

The questions you want to ask yourself are:
  • What's my budget?
  • How many people do you need to be able to feed with it?
  • Are you OK with trading away a small decrease in results/taste for a fairly large increase in simplicity (e.g., getting a pellet smoker instead of a wood/charcoal setup)
  • Do you want to also be able to grill burgers on it and sear steaks as well? If so, you need one that can get to higher temps like the kamado style grills.
  • Do you care about long term durability?
  • Do you care about having to constantly tinker with it to maintain temperature while you're smoking? Some cooks are 12+ hours long. And many options will require babysitting your smoker.
  • How much does footprint matter and the ability to move it around?
 
This is another expensive hobby! I personally like the reverse flows. Or small barrel offsets. I have both. I love the flavor of using the wood. I also love smoking a ribeye roast and the slicing it up and making cheesesteaks on the flat top! I use combination of charcoal and wood for fuel. It all depends to on how much food you plan on cooking. Green Eggs or the Komodos are great if your cooking for yourself. I have friends that prefer their offsets. But those take alot of babysitting. Pellet smokers you can set the temp the smoke and forget about it. Good luck!
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This is another expensive hobby! I personally like the reverse flows. Or small barrel offsets. I have both. I love the flavor of using the wood. I also love smoking a ribeye roast and the slicing it up and making cheesesteaks on the flat top! I use combination of charcoal and wood for fuel. It all depends to on how much food you plan on cooking. Green Eggs or the Komodos are great if your cooking for yourself. I have friends that prefer their offsets. But those take alot of babysitting. Pellet smokers you can set the temp the smoke and forget about it. Good luck!View attachment 446995View attachment 446996View attachment 446997View attachment 446998View attachment 446999View attachment 447000View attachment 447001View attachment 447002View attachment 446995View attachment 446996View attachment 446997View attachment 446998View attachment 446999View attachment 447000View attachment 447001View attachment 447002
Id take the chipping approach buy em all!
 
The people that are very serious about it, and who win BBQ competitions, pretty much all use an offset smoker like this style. But these are mostly overkill for the average person, and they're only for smoking. You're not grilling burgers or steaks on these. Many of these are either homemade or custom solutions made by a welder, or bought for thousands of dollars.

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The next best option most people advocate are the kamado style ceramic smokers/grills like the big green egg and kamado Joe. These can get you results that are almost as good as an offset smoker, with some people claiming they're every bit as good. You can also bake pizzas on these and can grill burgers and steaks too. I wouldn't underestimate the value of being able to grill a steak on these. You can make the best steak you'll ever eat on one of these things. You can get it hot enough to sear both sides, then drop the temp and move them away from the flames over indirect heat and just sit there in smoke for however long you want. The steaks these things are capable of cooking are insane! Burgers too. A good smokey burger is amazing. These grills are the best option for a good steak of any of the smokers. They can get super hot, unlike an offset smoker. They also maintain consistent temperatures better than any other solution because of the insulation the ceramic provides. The downside is that these are expensive. Usually $1500+ for the good ones. There are some made in China ones that Costco sells for around $700 though. People say they're pretty good. These things are insanely heavy though.

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Another great option is the Weber Smokey Mountain that a few people liked above. They're a lot cheaper ($400 or so depending on the size) than the ceramic ones, but are capable of producing some really awesome results. Pretty much as good of results as you'd get on the ceramic. But they don't maintain temperatures quite as well. They require a little more babysitting, and they won't last quite as long. But they're much cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to move around.

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Another option that a lot of people really like are the pellet grills like Traeger, Yoder, and Green Mountain. These range quite a bit in price and quality, but they all are super easy to use and maintain temperatures automatically for you. You just set it and forget it. But your meat is smoked using pellets, not wood and lump charcoal. But that doesn't mean it won't still taste great. You won't win competitions with a Traeger, but you can sure still make some amazing dinners, and it's pretty damn convenient. You can also cook burgers and steaks on these, although they won't get as hot as a ceramic egg style will. Some people say they don't get hot enough to make a perfect steak, but they can still make a good one. These range between $600 to $800 unless you want a Yoder, which is like $1500+. Oh, and you'll need an electrical outlet with these so you can run the pellet firebox and temperature controller.

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There are also some pretty cool vertical stack style smokers that some people use. Often homemade solutions where people hack old refrigerators or freezers, although there are some commercial units like these as well. You can get good results from these as well, although you're not going to be grilling burgers or steaks on them. But most people don't want these sitting on their back porch and end up going with one of the options above.

Then there are electric smokers. These usually arrive with a case of Bud Light and a thank you letter.
 
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I want it to be an all-day event. I want to use the smoker at the cabin, when I'm hanging out all day with nothing to do.

Nothing wrong with any options thus far.

I would reccomend a 22 in Weber smokey mountain as well. They are easy to use have tons of accessories. I've had the 18in for 15 years, wished many times I had the 22, but hey it was free. I reccomend buying a bag of play sand and filling the water pan with it, it's really only a heat sinc to help with temp swings. As the water evaporates your temp will tend swing wider. I would also reccomend using lump charcoal instead of briquettes. My next smoker will be a Good One in the Marshall version but that's getting into $2600 vs $399.

The WSM is also quite manageable to move around as it's in 3 pieces
 
One thing I learned from the stupid amount of research I did for mine, is that you almost can't go wrong with whatever you choose. You will find advocates for every option, and you'll be able to cook up some delicious food on any of them. Some smokers are more capable than others, and some will never win any competitions, but all can make great food, and they all have their tradeoffs.

The questions you want to ask yourself are:
  • What's my budget?
  • How many people do you need to be able to feed with it?
  • Are you OK with trading away a small decrease in results/taste for a fairly large increase in simplicity (e.g., getting a pellet smoker instead of a wood/charcoal setup)
  • Do you want to also be able to grill burgers on it and sear steaks as well? If so, you need one that can get to higher temps like the kamado style grills.
  • Do you care about long term durability?
  • Do you care about having to constantly tinker with it to maintain temperature while you're smoking? Some cooks are 12+ hours long. And many options will require babysitting your smoker.
  • How much does footprint matter and the ability to move it around?

Also make sure you like the taste of food cooked over charcoal/wood. There is a very different flavor than food cooked over traditional propane BBQs and it isn't for everyone.
 
I'd also highly recommend watching Aaron Franklin's BBQ course on Masterclass. I learned a ton from it. You can buy the best smoker on the planet, but nothing matters like experience and an understanding of how to control fire, smoke, and temperatures and how they can affect your cooks. You're going to want to practice a lot. It takes a really long time to master the art. Something I'm nowhere near.
 
I got a treager. It works for what it does. Anything that can produce heat and smoke well will do the job. Figuring out your process will be the fun part.

Sad part is, now I don't smoke ribs. My quick process turns out so well, no one minds
 
Also make sure you like the taste of food cooked over charcoal/wood. There is a very different flavor than food cooked over traditional propane BBQs and it isn't for everyone.

This is true as well, also like to note I know people that say they hate the flavor and when they've tried mine said amazing and didn't understand the difference. There are so many people out there that dont understand you cant just use any wood, and it cant be green wood. Basically if your smoker is pumping out a think white smoke your are killing the food. You want a nice clean blue smoke you can see through. Also most meats dont actually need a ton of smoke to absorb the flavor. 2 hours for almost all the smokes I do, then its just low and slow with no wood at all. My biggest issue with Pellet, is they dont give as much smoke flavor as well. But again its good food still. BBQ is a ton trial and error to get to where you want to be. Every unit is different and can take a lot of cooks to learn how to get the best cooks out of them. Also almost all units will have modification you can do to them to improve em. For us, I have a grill for steaks and chicken for a fast cook, I have my offset for small cooks aka one brisket or few racks of ribs, I host parties for all day events ect, I use my trailer reverse flow the large gatherings. Recently I bought a flat top for my Superbowl party. Smoked 2 15 pound Ribeyes in the offset day prior, shaved them after they cooled, then made steak sws to order for 60 people!! Was SOOO good! I have a good friend that recently purchased RT 700 Pellet and absolutely loves it. He likes the set and forget. It has blue tooth tech so he can run errands and still adjust if needed. He can warm it up on his way home, and its large enough he can cook for more then just his family.
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I have also been looking for a smoker and I have narrowed it down between Traeger and Camp Chef, leaning towards Camp Chef due to the dear box they have. But I bet everyone has different opinions.
 
I'd also highly recommend watching Aaron Franklin's BBQ course on Masterclass. I learned a ton from it. You can buy the best smoker on the planet, but nothing matters like experience and an understanding of how to control fire, smoke, and temperatures and how they can affect your cooks. You're going to want to practice a lot. It takes a really long time to master the art. Something I'm nowhere near.

and dont buy cheap meat... I see people buying Below choice Briskets cause its cheaper, but the few bucks to buy prime is well worth it in the end. Aaron Franklin has a ton of great material out there. I also use the Myron Mixon method for briskets. Breaks every rule against what Ive learned in over a decade of bbqing. But Ill never go back to the low and slow brisket.
 
I find that the pellet smoker is the most convenient for my needs. I like to be able to set a temperature, and keep it steady without needing to tend to charcoal and wood every couple of hours. The kamado keeps good constant temps all year round, and that makes for cooking in 0 degree weather up here in the midwest, a lot easier. I personally think having a couple of good quality, mid price grills for the job is the best answer.

For what it's worth, I just bought an Anova Sous Vide and a Caveman 1500 degree steak searer yesterday. Looking forward to getting some solid cuts on the grill as well :)
 
I have also been looking for a smoker and I have narrowed it down between Traeger and Camp Chef, leaning towards Camp Chef due to the dear box they have. But I bet everyone has different opinions.
I have the Camp Chef DLX and it has plenty of room for what I am doing. I just had a 22lb full brisket on it a couple of weeks ago, and it fit great! Have a couple friends with the larger capacity Camp Chef's paired with the side sear attachment and they love them. I would save the cash and go Camp Chef as they are very well built. If you have to replace parts, you will see that the design is fairly simplistic.
 
Another great thing about the kamado style ceramic grills is that you can use them like an oven. I just finished this pork tenderloin with sweet potatoes. Most recipes for these are for the oven, but it tastes amazing with some smoke!

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I currently have a Masterbuilt electric smoker. I mainly do pork butts and ribs. Very easy to use but my biggest complaint is the width, I often have to trim down ribs and brisket to fit width wise.

I’ve been looking at pellet grills, Traeger and Pit Boss. I never really knew they could be a replacement for a normal propane grill. I could easily sell my Weber and put that towards a smoker/grill combo.
 
I use a Treager, was a good mix of actually getting the heat from the wood and ease of use by using pellets rather than wood.

I've done offset smoking with a friend who is really into it, and its awesome but way to damn much work for me to do it very often. The treager still needs tending but way less.
 
I currently have a Masterbuilt electric smoker. I mainly do pork butts and ribs. Very easy to use but my biggest complaint is the width, I often have to trim down ribs and brisket to fit width wise.

I’ve been looking at pellet grills, Traeger and Pit Boss. I never really knew they could be a replacement for a normal propane grill. I could easily sell my Weber and put that towards a smoker/grill combo.
I have done burgers and stuff on my Traeger and it wasnt as good as going it on the propane bbq IMO
 

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