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[Kain8]

1/2 NLHE at the local casino is the game.

Cast of characters:

Hero is in the small blind sitting on a $280 stack, having just folding the river to the big blind's large river bet in the previous pot. Hero is pretty sure the big blind spiked trips on a A 8 4 7 8 board when hero had AJss. Hero is still content with how he's playing and has a good feel that the big blind is super loose.

Big blind has about the same stack ($280) as Hero after the previous hand.

UTG +1 is racking up his chips and is about to leave when his blinds come around. He has about $360 and has been a pretty passive player.

Button has a stack of about $220 after having bought in for $400 initially (table max). He raises preflop quite frequently and seems to be a competent player.


Action:

UTG +1 and MP player both limp for $2, Button decides to raise to $15.

Hero looks down at


If we 3 bet, how much do we make it?

Is there merit to cold calling?

Fire away!

 

[detroitdad]

I'm raising to around 40

 

[DrStrange]

I vote re-raise. $40 seems just fine, that is a $25 re-raise into a $34 pot. Hero is going to hate a 4-bet from one of the limpers and not much care for one from the button.

 

[Blaster]

1/2 NLHE at the local casino is the game.

Cast of characters:

Hero is in the small blind sitting on a $280 stack,
.

UTG +1 is racking up his chips and is about to leave when his blinds come around. He has about $360 and has been a pretty passive player.

Button has a stack of about $220 after having bought in for $400 initially (table max). He raises preflop quite frequently and seems to be a competent player.


Action:

UTG +1 and MP player both limp for $2, Button decides to raise to $15.

Hero looks down at


If we 3 bet, how much do we make it?

Is there merit to cold calling?

Fire away!

You mention UTG+1 was racking his chips to leave, & "got hit" by the blinds & decided to play this last hand ... so,
He's probably going to play ABC poker this hand , if you raise ( what I would mostly reccomend here), and he re-raises or calls , he's got a real hand.
I'm sure it's just me, but I'm not fully following the table positions relative to this hand & last hand .. if button raised this hand, are you BB now, or SB, how is UTG+1 now in the blinds, & not just UTG .. ...

 

[Kain8]

UTG +1 will be leaving when the blinds are on him in 2 hands.

This hand I'm in the small blind and the previous hand the small blind is the super loose player as indicated before.

 

[Adam Crowley]

I'm making it $50 - $55 here. Probably $55 as your out of position and the btn is more likely to call. I prefer this raise size as well because you can use it for all of your 3b range. I don't think you would ever 3b your more speculative holdings for $40 for fear of being looked up too light by the btn.

Edit: re-read initial post and changed my mind based on opening size.

 

[Kain8]

***Action***

Admittedly, as soon as I saw the queens I only called the $15 raise due to a combination of poor position and wanting to play small ball. The big blind and the limpers all call the raise and we go take a flop five ways.


Flop: (Pot $75)

Any reason at all to bet?

 

[gopherblue]

As played? No. You're planning to check-raise, and if no action behind you, bet out on the turn.

 

[DrStrange]

Agree, checking here. Not so sure I want to check raise though. Hero has $265 left to bet looking at a $75 pot. That is less than two pot sized bets, so Hero can completely miss a bet and still be all-in on the river. I see no need to take aggressive action so quickly.

Don't feel bad if hero gets no chips in the pot post flop. That flop is bone dry. If one of the villains does not hold AA / KK / Qx / or 6x there isn't much reason to try for the pot.

 

[gopherblue]

^^^ The Good Doc makes a good point. I change my view--just call any action on flop.

 

[upNdown]

Maybe table image matters here. I continue-bet so often that I'd be inclined to bet here and hope people assume it's just another continuation bet by me. But given what was said above, that might be a mistake.

 

[kk405]

I would raise pre-flop to $40, and check-call the flop..I am not raising the flop with top boat. Heads-up or in a three-way pot, I would check-call the turn and bomb the river. Given it is five ways, I would lead the turn and bomb the river.

 

[DrStrange]

Hero is not the original raiser, that is the Button. Hero is the small blind and just called the $15 bet made by the button. There are three other limpers yet to act, plus the original raiser.

 

[BGinGA]

I continue-bet so often that I'd be inclined to bet here and hope people assume it's just another continuation bet by me

^ guaranteed to work, too. Folks be calling you with ace high or any pair. Maybe even K-high.

 

[inca911]

Maybe table image matters here. I continue-bet so often that I'd be inclined to bet here and hope people assume it's just another continuation bet by me. But given what was said above, that might be a mistake.

I check. I don't like betting this after a smooth call of the original raiser. It isn't a C-bet, imho. A bet raises red flags that don't need to be raised, unless you have an established history with these players of always betting any paired board.

 

[Kain8]

***Action***

Hero checks and the action checks all the way around unsurprisingly.


Turn (Pot: $75)


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Check again or lead out into the field?

 

[inca911]

Bet $40. It will appear to many like you have a T or Q, or are attempting to steal the pot. Nobody is putting you on a hand. Hopefully a good flush draw will be tempted to call

 

[DrStrange]

I recommend a bet now. Hero gave everyone a chance to bet on the flop and they declined. There are plenty of draws that might pay a reasonable price, let's charge them something.

The pot is $75, I fear $50 is too much. Try $40 or $45 and hope for some optimistic callers.

Do not feel bad if the table folds -=- DrStrange

 

[thorwilliam]

***Action***

Admittedly, as soon as I saw the queens I only called the $15 raise due to a combination of poor position and wanting to play small ball. The big blind and the limpers all call the raise and we go take a flop five ways.


Flop: (Pot $75)



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Any reason at all to bet?

Preflop action is way too tight. You need to re-raise against the button raise with QQ. You don't want the limper to come in cheap. With poor position and a big pp you want to lower the spr, not play small ball.

 

[Kain8]

***Action***

The turn definitely opens up a lot of draws for the table to make second best hands against me. Having said that, I thought a bet of any size could dissuade any of these players from making a call to draw to the river.

I check, the big blind bets $30, UTG +1 and the button call the $30. Action is back on me.

Pot stands at $165. I have $265 in my stack left.

Should I:

a) Make the smooth call?
b) Make a small raise to $60 - $75?
c) Shove all-in?

 

[gopherblue]

Raise to $100.

 

[bergs]

Raise to $70. Nobody who plays 1/2 is going to bet/fold or check/call/fold there. I hated not raising pre or leading flop but this is working out on the turn for you.

Normally the turn is the inflection point at which you want to get it in, but when you flop this big a monster, you have to look at the river as the inflection point IMO (since you literally beat any draw).

Bet $70 and you'll have $195 left with a pot size of ~$475. Jam literally any river card, folding 0% of the time.

 

[Kain8]

***Action***

I click raise to $60 and all of my opponents call the raise.


River: (Pot: $315) Hero's Stack: $205

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Should Hero check to let someone in the field lead out when the river completes almost every draw possible? Or should Hero be content with taking the pot down if he does shove and get no callers?

 

[gopherblue]

Jam. Lose to KhJh. Tough cooler. Sorry dude.

 

[BGinGA]

Yeah, with the other guy holding 66 for losing quads. Feel sorry for the poor feĺla with Ax-h in fourth place with the nut flush.

I think i either check or bet around $100 to induce a jam by nut-flush guy.

 

[bergs]

***Action***

I click raise to $60 and all of my opponents call the raise.


River: (Pot: $315) Hero's Stack: $205

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Should Hero check to let someone in the field lead out when the river completes almost every draw possible? Or should Hero be content with taking the pot down if he does shove and get no callers?

Easy easy jam here. Nut flush calls. Straights probably call. L Second nut flush might call. Big 6s call.

If you just flat pre and make a hand like this where all the draws come in, with this SPR, you are literally tossing money into the air if you don't jam on this river.

 

[Kain8]

***Action***

After seeing the river, Hero pauses for a moment and then slides the remainder of his stack in. The big blind almost beats Hero into the pot with a snap call! The other two players fold and I table my top boat.

Big blind says, "Nice hand.." and shows me for a most unexpected rivered underfull.

 

[bergs]

***Action***

After seeing the river, Hero pauses for a moment and then slides the remainder of his stack in. The big blind almost beats Hero into the pot with a snap call! The other two players fold and I table my top boat.

Big blind says, "Nice hand.." and shows me for a most unexpected rivered underfull.

You got bailed out on the river in that he connected with a 3 outer to make an underfull and get it in bad. This is why a vast majority of the time it's better to play for stacks on the turn - any non-9 on that river and there's a chance villain finds a fold.