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Morals, ethics, legalities or hardcore chip harvesting. (1 Viewer)

ekricket said:
If your position is that companies eventually get to a big enough size that it’s ok to steal from them just say so. We can live with it and somewhat rationalize out deceit with that explanation. We do it all the time.
The theme I see here is that “as long as it’s not specifically banned, like with a physical sign (cause that makes it official), it’s ok even if it harms others”.
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My position isn't in regard to companies, it's towards Casinos. The same Casinos that use every trick in the book to lure and manipulate people in under the guise of entertainment to fleece them of every dollar they can because it's "legal" to do so. Maybe we should debate the ethics and morals of Casinos instead.

My heart bleeds for every casino when they lose an insignificant amount of money relative to what they are taking because some Chip degens can get their fix. The casinos don't seem to have a problem with people taking GO $5 chips of CNY $8 chips because once again that's in their interests.

A more interesting conversation would be to discuss the morals, ethics, and legalities of card counting in blackjack. Heaven forbid someone works out that they can have an edge against the casino.
 
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Perthmike said:
Hahahaha nice try. Actually I sold them for the same price they cost me.

You must really hate them though because you basically copied them for your stupid stoner set mockups.

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Dumb c*nt :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:. Back on your meds please.
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That designer proof was never printed. I asked for a sun and some plants. They seem to go together. Awhile ago u mentioned the designer similarities, I immediately puked and this passed on printing. Yuck. Oh ya that guy u sold too, is still trying to sell them. So Much for returns. Seems shady. Anyone reading know my return policy is always 100% no questions asked. I Don’t want to Perth anyone.
 
SpaceMonkey420 said:
That designer proof was never printed. I asked for a sun and some plants. They seem to go together. Awhile ago u mentioned the designer similarities, I puked and passed on printing. Yuck. Oh ya that guy u sold too, is still trying to sell them. So Much for returns. Seems shady. Anyone reading know my return policy is always 100% no questions asked. I Don’t want to Perth anyone.
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100% returns policy on your sketchy harvest venture. So now you are suggesting that every sale on the forum ought to come with a returns policy. Lol
 
If anyone wants to help this relatively new chipper out who ended up with these African chips Here is the link.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/motswari-lodge-split-options-added-final-price-drop.76006/

He bought some chips from Mr
Ethical “Perth Mike” and wanted to return them. Mike has stated he is more into watches now. The buyer who is a great guy is now taking a loss and u can see no one else wants this crap… it’s been listed for DAys!!!!

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Anyone else think return policys are ethical?
 
SpaceMonkey420 said:
If anyone wants to help this relatively new chipper out who ended up with these African chips Here is the link.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/motswari-lodge-split-options-added-final-price-drop.76006/

He bought some chips from Mr
Ethical “Perth Mike” and wanted to return them. Mike has stated he is more into watches now. The buyer who is a great guy is now taking a loss and u can see no one else wants this crap… it’s been listed for DAys!!!!

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Anyone else think return policys are ethical?
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Perhaps you could buy them. Would save you the hassle of copying the artwork again. And you would end up with a set that isn't entirely green.

And I think he's been around a couple of years longer than you.
 
SpaceMonkey420 said:
If anyone wants to help this relatively new chipper out who ended up with these African chips Here is the link.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/motswari-lodge-split-options-added-final-price-drop.76006/

He bought some chips from Mr
Ethical “Perth Mike” and wanted to return them. Mike has stated he is more into watches now. The buyer who is a great guy is now taking a loss and u can see no one else wants this crap… it’s been listed for DAys!!!!

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Anyone else think return policys are ethical?
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I think the seller was just being ethical by giving the creator FROR?
 
SpaceMonkey420 said:
All of mine do. U can bet on it. I don’t speak for every asshole here, just the real ones.
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You literally joined this forum so that you could set up a business venture harvesting chips. You've not even been here for a year. You must be up there as the guy on the most block lists.

You basically represent everything that killed this hobby. Just some faceless clown high all day long posting sales pitches about your harvested chips.
 
ekricket said:
Dude, this thread is about morality and ethics. Go do some research, learn what those words mean at least, and then come back and post some adult content.
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This thread is about the perceived morality, ethics, and legalities with respect to harvesting chips from casinos, not all businesses in general.

No need to make this some sort of personal attack because we have a different viewpoint on the specific topic.
 
davislane said:
My position isn't in regard to companies, it's towards Casinos. The same Casinos that use every trick in the book to lure and manipulate people in under the guise of entertainment to fleece them of every dollar they can because it's "legal" to do so. Maybe we should debate the ethics and morals of Casinos instead.

My heart bleeds for every casino when they lose an insignificant amount of money relative to what they are taking because some Chip degens can get their fix. The casinos don't seem to have a problem with people taking GO $5 chips of CNY $8 chips because once again that's in their interests.

A more interesting conversation would be to discuss the morals, ethics, and legalities of card counting in blackjack. Heaven forbid someone works out that they can have an edge against the casino.
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Card counting is not illegal but is just frowned upon by the casino. We could never legally detain individuals who were caught doing it. We would just read them the NRS Trespass code and 86 them. If they returned after that, then we could legally detain them. But Metro didn't care. They have more important things to worry about. If they didn't show up within an hour we had to release the detainee.
 
davislane said:
This thread is about the perceived morality, ethics, and legalities with respect to harvesting chips from casinos, not all businesses in general.

No need to make this some sort of personal attack because we have a different viewpoint on the specific topic.
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Seeiing as the OP is a friend, I’ve now expanded it to ethics and morals of chipping in general. Please continue and yes Mike the right thing to do IMO is take your custom chips back, but since your perfect I assume u know that. Asshole.
 
Lemonzest said:
To be fair I was speculating masks would be in high demand far before that was even a thing. People made fun of my thread for thinking we would live in a masked world.

I didn't end up doing it so you can feel consoled that the big box stores lined their pockets once again.
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I think the majority saw it as a real thing (short to mid term mask wearing) when demand was spiking but I wasn’t actually taking a shot at you. Just thought the TP shot while in agreement was funny.
 
Perthmike said:
Hahahaha nice try. Actually I sold them for the same price they cost me.

You must really hate them though because you basically copied them for your stupid stoner set mockups.

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Dumb c*nt :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:. Back on your meds please.
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No need for this guys. Can I close this thread. I think we have all gotten enough good info. Time to move on to the next thread...
 
In my experience, if there was a serious issue about people harvesting chips, policies would be put in place to prevent it. Trust me, there were some dumbass policies created for the weirdest things. Legally I haven't found anything in the NRS Codes and Nevada Gaming Commission Statutes that deem harvesting illegal. I reached out to an old co-worker who is now a director of security at three properties and he just laughed at my question. He said he wasn't aware of any policies about it but would check on it when he gets a chance. But he is a busy guy and i"m not going to hold my breath for an answer. Unless someone can find the NRS code, I would worry about it.

When it comes to morals and ethics, well that is different for every person and it is up to you to decide if that violates your moral and ethical standards.
 
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turboj623 said:
In my experience, if there was a serious issue about people harvesting chips, policies would be put in place to prevent it. Trust me, there were some dumbass policies created for the weirdest things. Legally I haven't found anything in the NRS Codes and Nevada Gaming Commission Statutes that deem harvesting illegal. I reached out to an old co-worker who is now a director of security at three properties and he just laughed at my question. He said he wasn't aware of any policies about it but would check on it when he gets a chance. But he is a busy guy and i"m not going to hold my breath for an answer. Unless someone can find the NRS code about it, I would worry about it.

When it comes to morals and ethics, well that is different for every person and it is up to you to decide if that violates your moral and ethical standards.
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Mine comes with a return policy, even if it means returning that Movado or Rolly. Buyer beware, some are not so ethical.
 
SpaceMonkey420 said:
Mine comes with a return policy, even if it means returning that Movado or Rolly. Buyer beware, some are not so ethical.
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I know you are good my friend! It was more directed at the original question of whether or not it is moral or ethical to harvest.
 
monkeydog said:
It’s been a long day and I’m tired, but I can’t for the life of me figure out the “total African made crap” comment.

Can you clarify?
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Cuz everyone wants to spend 3k and have giraffes on their chips, just not these ugly custom non paulson African ones. If u change your mind the link Is above. Chris would love to dump them, he’s actually taking a loss.

They want the ones high on cocaine from cali. Unfortunately not these.

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turboj623 said:
I know you are good my friend! It was more directed at the original question of whether or not it is moral or ethical to harvest.
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Then it was also make it un ethocal to buy or own ever. You see, We’re all doomed. Give up the collection I’ll dispose of them for u. Lol
 
Perthmike said:
This is a hobby not a business. You seem to have confused yourself.
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Ya how did u know??? I just quit my day job and bought a third house in Malibu.

Lambo anyone?

:Rolls Eyes:

Ethics is having a return policy. It’s also not being an asshole. To each his own. Gonna learn gonna learn.
 

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