Most obvious reliable tell you've ever seen (1 Viewer)

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Yes, I'm serious. And I doubt you want me to play in your game :) Not saying I'm amazing or anything, but I played professionally for most of my adult life and have over 1MM in winnings.

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I think you guys are misreading my post about the food. I'm not saying "either he has nothing or he has something". That, of course, would be rather silly. My statement is very specific. You have to read it carefully. When a player is eating food and decides to continue playing rather than to sit out, they often give a lot away about the strength of their hands. When they get their cards, if their hand sucks, they will usually continue eating their food and wait until called upon to fold their shitty hand. Basically, they are more interested in the food than the game. But if they get a good hand, they will forget the food, scoot in close to the table, and watch what's going on until it's their turn to act. They also usually will tighten up their range, and are less interested in hands like QT, 22, J8s, stuff like that (depends on the player of course). But it's a tell for sure. If you are in the cutoff and the button has food but he's sitting in close, you should pay attention because you're less likely to steal through him than if he's chomping away. This is somewhat obvious though.

However, once that player is in the hand, they will often have split attention between the hand and their food. If they have something like a pair or two pair, they're going to be locked into the game the entire hand, watching what the other players do. But if they have a drawing hand, they usually only want to pay attention so long as they have a chance in the hand. If they have Q9hh for instance, and the board comes out Ks4s4h7d, they'll usually revert back to their meal and be done with the hand before it's their turn to act. However, if they have something like A4hh and the board is 7hThKc9h, they will also revert back to their meal because they no longer are in anticipation of their draw coming in. They have the hand locked up and subconsciously, or otherwise, want to seem disinterested, so they will go back to their food so as not to give anything away.

Here's the big takeaway from this tell. If you're in a hand, and you notice someone's attention switching back and forth between the hand and their food after a flush card falls on the turn, and when it's their turn to act and they now become the bettor, or they put in a raise, get the fuck out of the way. It means they have it locked up almost every time. This is a very reliable tell. If they had one pair, or two pair, they'd be locked into the hand the entire time, having forgotten about their meal. My point about them having nothing, is just to say that if they are into their food, it could also just mean they're done with the hand. In which case, they'll just fold when it's their turn to act. But if you notice them paying attention to the food after a draw card comes in, and they suddenly become the aggressor, that's a pretty strong tell.

Make sense?

Note, this isn't just with food. It can be the same tell if there's a big game on tv that they're really interested in. If they're seemingly checked out of the hand, but then come back in for a big raise, GTFO
 
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Agreed too all times I've seen trembling hands because of new or nervous players. But my experience is probably limited.

Sometimes you can see my heart pulsing in my neck. Usually when I have a big hand or a big bluff. I need to buy a scarf.
 
Also biggest tell I've seen was the bb going to fold pre in a limped pot while not paying attention and out of turn. I was pretty sure they had junk.
 
FWIW, sure, there are times when a player's trembling hands obviously mean they have quads or something like that. But those situations are so obvious that it's not even worth mentioning to me. They will have vocal fluctuations too, and might ask how much they can make it (in a limit game), etc. But these situations are different. I'm just trying to protect novice players from thinking they're onto someone because they see trembling hands, only to have someone who's playing for the first time in a casino roll over 3rd pair no kicker, and say they have "all red cards".
 
Agreed too all times I've seen trembling hands because of new or nervous players. But my experience is probably limited.

Sometimes you can see my heart pulsing in my neck. Usually when I have a big hand or a big bluff. I need to buy a scarf.

The jugular is actually one of the best physical giveaways there is. But ya, usually means big hand or big bluff. Hard to know which. I find it humerous when players wear sunglasses, but the veins in their neck are pumping away like an 18 year old boy in the bathroom stall of a strip club.
 
Most "tells" are bullshit mind you. Solid reads are logic based, usually not physical.
 
The jugular is actually one of the best physical giveaways there is. But ya, usually means big hand or big bluff. Hard to know which. I find it humerous when players wear sunglasses, but the veins in their neck are pumping away like an 18 year old boy in the bathroom stall of a strip club.

I hate sunglasses at the table. Exit Only Lounge in Colorado/Dhahran enforces a no sunglass rule.
 
There's a gazillion tells out there, but since the title is "most obvious reliable tell" I'll go with the one I saw recently in my home game.

Guy was heads-up and had been the aggressor the whole way with position on his opponent. On the river his opponent is first to act and the guy reaches for his chip stack and places his hands around it and moves them forward in a manner indicating he intends to bet all his chips, and also leans his body forward towards his opponent while staring him down. On top of this he starts yammering at his opponent asking him what he intends to do.

It was the most painfully strong=weak tell I've ever witnessed.
 
I've played with a guy in two different games for a few years now who has the most ludicrously over the top tell I've ever seen. As with all "tells" it's not 100% reliable 100% of the time, but it is shocking how often it's dead on.

It comes in two stages. At DEFCON 2, as soon as the turn/river card comes out, he says, "What's that" and squints his eyes like he can't make out the card (he's in his late 60s as are several of our regulars and habitually sits in the 2 or 3 seat). At DEFON 2, he might not have the stone cold nuts, but he really likes the card. At DEFCON 1, he does the "What's that" thing, but also stands up to lean over and more dramatically study the card. At DEFCON 1, he has the nuts 90%+ of the time. It's uncanny.

What shocks me the most - but I suppose shouldn't since I come back to these games for a reason - is that literally no one else seems to have ever picked up on this. I routinely fold second nuts to one DEFCON 1 bet, but I have to stifle laughter every time he goes to DEFCON 1 and people still raise/call.

You just described old man Phil's tells from across the street. He is also in his late 60's. Squint, whats that. Get up, lean over table. Amazing.
 
Agreed too all times I've seen trembling hands because of new or nervous players. But my experience is probably limited.

Sometimes you can see my heart pulsing in my neck. Usually when I have a big hand or a big bluff. I need to buy a scarf.

I think an Ascot is a better way to go, as you'll gain an intimidation edge as well.
 
Agreed too all times I've seen trembling hands because of new or nervous players. But my experience is probably limited.

Sometimes you can see my heart pulsing in my neck. Usually when I have a big hand or a big bluff. I need to buy a scarf.

I find neck fat helps hide it, just work on your double chin and you will be fine.
 
Yeah, but how much did you lose?

P.S. Ever run into Nooker on the tournament circuit?

Sorry, should have stated over 1MM in profit, not winnings. I have no idea what my tournament "winnings" are. My biggest cash was 105k. But I'm not really a tournament player. I played mid stakes cash games for a living mostly.

Not sure who Nooker is. If he/she is a regular, I'd probably recognize the face though.
 
Most reliable tell is a player in my game who, once he has a big stack plays pretty conservatively, and when I 3bet/4bet PF and we're heads-up waiting for the flop will say, "I hope a Jack doesn't hit, Chris!" (or queen, etc). It makes post-flop play so much easier since he's never lied yet and always shows.
 
Sorry, should have stated over 1MM in profit, not winnings. I have no idea what my tournament "winnings" are. My biggest cash was 105k. But I'm not really a tournament player. I played mid stakes cash games for a living mostly.

Not sure who Nooker is. If he/she is a regular, I'd probably recognize the face though.

OK, I lied. It's me, Nooker. How did you know?
 
BGinGA calls horse hockey, as any respectable bum puppet knows how Nooker would properly address this crowd.
 
.. Players that look at their dealt hand before it is their turn to act, & instinctively after the peek, glance/look down at their chips, which means they have a hand & plan to bet in turn ...
 
I have a friend that is slooooow. If you make a strong turn bet and he tanks a bit, then looks at his cards and calls, he is on a draw for sure or doesn't have any better than top pair. A brick on the river says "take him to value town". He won't call a bet of $75 but will usually call a $50 or less

I flopped 4 full houses Wed. night and he was mumbling to himself most of the night.. :)
 
The most obvious tell i have is when i drag a huge mound of chips across the table.

It usually means i had the nuts.


Of course if your dragging them. it usually means i was bluffing.
 
There is a guy in out regular meatup games that ALWAYS says POT when he has air. I don't want to say who it is though...

HQ - this got discussed during my game on Saturday, and though I won't reveal who brought it up, I have reason to believe that you were referring to me. I'd like to know if that's true, and if it's true I'd like to know why, and if it's not true I'd like to know why not, and I'd ask that you back that with facts, or present a lack of facts if it's in fact me that you are not referring to, positively.
 
Hand trembles mean nothing.

Two pretty reliable tells to remember though...

1) If a player shuffles his cards mid hand, he's almost always on a draw (note, I said shuffles CARDS, not chips). This is what it's called when they slide their cards back and forth, usually with their thumb on one card, and middle finger on another.

2) If a player has a cart with some food and drink behind him, and he goes for the food and drink after a flush card comes in on the turn, he usually either is going to fold or he hit the flush. It means he's disinterested in what the other players have. He's more interested in the food. But be careful with this tell. It only works in the right spots. But if the spot's right, it's pretty reliable.
I have seen the shuffle one a lot.

I tend to reach for food when I am hungry :).
 

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