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Official Horse Race Game Thread (8 Viewers)

T_Chan said:
I'm planning to turn this into a custom felt and make it much bigger to put onto a poker table. Instead of horses with pegs, we can use anything with a flat bottom and move them across the felt. Might still use a horse and jockey though. Maybe add a half tub at one end of the table with craps table rubber for a throwing area.
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This sounds cool!
 
T_Chan said:
I'm planning to turn this into a custom felt and make it much bigger to put onto a poker table. Instead of horses with pegs, we can use anything with a flat bottom and move them across the felt. Might still use a horse and jockey though. Maybe add a half tub at one end of the table with craps table rubber for a throwing area.
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11 large buttons from one of @Himewad's button group buys?
 
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Using buttons or chips was something I had in mind to use instead of horses. It would be cool if everyone could use their own card capper as "their horse".
 
T_Chan said:
I'm planning to turn this into a custom felt and make it much bigger to put onto a poker table. Instead of horses with pegs, we can use anything with a flat bottom and move them across the felt. Might still use a horse and jockey though. Maybe add a half tub at one end of the table with craps table rubber for a throwing area.
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Is it possible to put it on a craps layout? Remove the prop bets in the center and replace it the game?
 
If you have a craps table, I wouldn't see why not. Still working on the layout design though. Hope to have it ready for action in a few weeks. I'll probably post some iterations for feedback.
 
T_Chan said:
Using buttons or chips was something I had in mind to use instead of horses.
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Horse image on one side, "Scratched" on the back side.

Custom table toppers are what $125? Buttons are $4.50ish each, so another $50. Seems you could be set up for under $200.
 
Played the game at S@P, love it. I’m a craps player so know the probabilities. It was clear things were off so I came here and saw another member beat me to the math. I’m very reticent to buy a board that favors outside numbers so much. I may have to make my own.

Anyone find any donkey figurines? Screw horses, I want to build a donkey race game Or have Tony make it for me.
 
I shared a proud father/son moment the other night. When my son was home with me last week because his school was closed, I was trying out my board and my son was helping me rolling the dice once in a while with the mock game I posted photos of here.

Fast forward to this past Friday, my father came over for a bit and he was playing in the basement with my son. I came down after making sure my daughter was fed, and I come down and see the two of them playing Candy Land. As soon as my son sees me, he says "Grandpa, I want to play the horse racing game".

So played the horse racing game we did. We just played with dice rolling and moving the horses on the board with no chips. I would have been ashamed to show my father I'm turning his grandson into a degen already at 3 years old.
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slisk250 said:
Played the game at S@P, love it. I’m a craps player so know the probabilities. It was clear things were off so I came here and saw another member beat me to the math. I’m very reticent to buy a board that favors outside numbers so much. I may have to make my own.
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Was a preferred / "correct math" for winning moves ever determined? I saw a bunch of the big probability posts but couldn't discern a concrete "this is what it should be" post, particularly when it's agreed upon that since you have just as much chance to be dealt a 2/12 as a 7 that each horse's probability doesn't matter too much in the grand scheme.
 
NotDunric said:
Was a preferred / "correct math" for winning moves ever determined? I saw a bunch of the big probability posts but couldn't discern a concrete "this is what it should be" post, particularly when it's agreed upon that since you have just as much chance to be dealt a 2/12 as a 7 that each horse's probability doesn't matter too much in the grand scheme.
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The probabilities, and whether the number of holes for each line corresponded to the proper odds, are for determining whether any particular horse(s) are more likely to win the race, but separately since what cards you receive to determine who gets what share of the purse is random, there aren't really any optimal play decisions.
 
TheOffalo said:
The probabilities, and whether the number of holes for each line corresponded to the proper odds, are for determining whether any particular horse(s) are more likely to win the race, but separately since what cards you receive to determine who gets what share of the purse is random, there aren't really any optimal play decisions.
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No I understand that. I'm referring to slisk stating above that he didn't want to buy a board that "favors the outside numbers so much" when really, as you (and others) point out, it doesn't matter. But I'm curious what the math "should" be for a theoretically "correct" distribution of holes per horse (which would only really matter if the card component of the game wasn't present).
 
NotDunric said:
No I understand that. I'm referring to slisk stating above that he didn't want to buy a board that "favors the outside numbers so much" when really, as you (and others) point out, it doesn't matter. But I'm curious what the math "should" be for a theoretically "correct" distribution of holes per horse (which would only really matter if the card component of the game wasn't present).
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See @Samuel's post:

Samuel said:
ROLL A…PROBABILITY
2​
1/36 (2.778%)​
3​
2/36 (5.556%)​
4​
3/36 (8.333%)​
5​
4/36 (11.111%)​
6​
5/36 (13.889%)​
7​
6/36 (16.667%)​
8​
5/36 (13.889%)​
9​
4/36 (11.111%)​
10​
3/36 (8.333%)​
11​
2/36 (5.556%)​
12​
1/36 (2.778%)​

On my Derby Dash game board, the number of holes match up with the chart above (3x each probability - e.g. 3 holes for #2, 12 holes for #5, 18 holes for #7, etc) - that board has no Scratched area/holes. I think this is intentional in order to run full 11 horse races with true probabilities/chances for each horse.

On my Fineni game board (with a Scratched area/holes), there is one less hole for horse #'s 4-10 than 3x each probability - so e.g. the #4 has 8 holes, the #5 has 11, and the #7 has 17, etc. I'm guessing that the one less hole per lane is supposed to offset the greater chances for the "middle" horses to be scratched (and not finish at all) when running less than full field races?
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So Derby Dash has correct odds X3 in all lane, Fineni and Across the board is correct odds X3-1 for each lane.

Some people have said that 2 and 12 horses actually seem to win a lot. I think, since rolling a 2 or 12 are pretty rare, they don't get scratched as much and so are in play more think. Since all horses theoretically having an equal chance to win should bear out over many many trials, but in the short run there can be "lucky" runs by any particular horse (or combination of dice rolls), and by the nature of the race ending when one horse wins, I feel like that favors the 2 and 12 horse because they need a much smaller amount of "lucky" rolls to win.
 
TheOffalo said:
See @Samuel's post:



So Derby Dash has correct odds X3 in all lane, Fineni and Across the board is correct odds X3-1 for each lane.

Some people have said that 2 and 12 horses actually seem to win a lot. I think, since rolling a 2 or 12 are pretty rare, they don't get scratched as much and so are in play more think. Since all horses theoretically having an equal chance to win should bear out over many many trials, but in the short run there can be "lucky" runs by any particular horse (or combination of dice rolls), and by the nature of the race ending when one horse wins, I feel like that favors the 2 and 12 horse because they need a much smaller amount of "lucky" rolls to win.
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I'm tempted to add 1 more spot for the 12/2 and 11/3..... They seem to hit the most with us, but I'll also say, they hit when it fucks me the most too.
 
slisk250 said:
Played the game at S@P, love it. I’m a craps player so know the probabilities.
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I roll the bones from time to time as well and I can't ever remember feeling like 7's were being rolled like 1/6 of the time... OTOH, those damn 7's more often than not come up once I've established my 3 or 4 numbers and especially if a die hits some chips on a roll! :mad:
 

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