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If I had more funds. Ode to some of the iconic leaded chips, and some of my personal favorites.
 
Jacks said:
Red denom, not busy, something old west themed.
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I’m about to pull the trigger on something very similar. I have chips and spots set and just putting the finishing touches on the inlay design.
 
I didn't cruise through all 92 pages, but from the dozen or so that I made it through, it seems that there are no ceramics in this thread and clays are still the favorite. It's been a long time, but Chiptalk was also this way. Not much love for the edge-to-edge and rolling edge design space of the ceramics. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I was never a big fan of clays from a design perspective. I always liked to see what people do with a completely blank canvas. The clays always did sound nice though.
 
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RoadRash said:
I didn't cruise through all 92 pages, but from the dozen or so that I made it through, it seems that there are no ceramics in this thread. Clays are still the favorite. It's been a long time, but Chiptalk was also this way. Not much love for the edge-to-edge and rolling edge design space of the ceramics. Obviously I'm in the minority, but I was never a big fan of clays from a design perspective. I always liked to see what people do with a completely blank canvas. They always did sound nice though.
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There are plenty of mockups here that were made in ceramic, they just use the CPC clay design tool to do so. But 95% of designers are trying to mimic clay, which is really too bad, because ceramics have design strengths of their own.
 
allforcharity said:
There are plenty of mockups here that were made in ceramic, they just use the CPC clay design tool to do so. But 95% of designers are trying to mimic clay, which is really too bad, because ceramics have design strengths of their own.
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many peoples (including myself) tend to prefer classic clay design and hi end plastic design (like matsui or B&G) and if ceramic offer more options on the design part, they won't consider them because those design don't fit with what they want.

facts :
- actual clay chips are (over) expensives
- options to get them are limited (not to say it seems there will be no more option for custom clay soon)
- novelty for novelty is not a good reason for many of us, we love classic clay poker chips design, no more no less.
 
I'm looking at Custom Chips purely from a design perspective and not as a Poker Chip Fan. I do like playing poker with the clays. I like the sound and feel of them over ceramics, but to me clays all look the same in regard to design. The inlay honestly adds nothing to the design in most cases - it's all in the color scheme. The chips would be the same to me if they just had their chosen color schemes with a blank center or had a generic denomination text on it.

I do understand the love for classic clays, but I just don't like them for customizing. They are just way too limited for customization in my opinion. Again, I do understand the love for clays and people's fascination with them and I am not bashing them at all. They just all look the same to me - limited base colors with limited edge spot colors and 'shapes'. There is actually a finite number of appealing combinations and edge spot 'shapes'. Granted, that number is very high, but that's all you can do with clays - mix and match. Ceramics allow for infinite design possibilities and that's why I prefer them for customization.
 
Is there a thread in the Customs or Mockups specifically for Ceramic Customs? Or is that frowned upon?

I'm not trying to put one above the other. Clays are clearly the more popular choice and that is evident in the number of pages in these threads. I'd just like to be able to find the custom ceramics a bit more easily because those are the chips I'm into.

I wish there was a bigger market for ceramics and more manufacturers to get them from, but that is not very likely to happen unless they become hugely popular. Sifting through 92 pages of clays to find the nine or ten ceramic designs isn't going to help showcase them in any way. I think they deserve their own stage at least for better recognition. Some of the most classic ceramic designs kind of get lost or ignored because everybody covets the clays.

For Custom Chips:
Clays are more expensive and harder to purchase as an individual or for a small poker group (and are limited to mix & match limits I mentioned above). Plus a lot of folks new to poker chips are easily deceived by the endless options of 'quality clay chips' available online. They think they're getting top-tier stuff, but they're just getting robbed. That doesn't happen with the ceramics because there is no general design standard for ceramics. They don't have a standard set of colors to choose from and a standard way to add edge spots. They're 100% custom every time.

Ceramics are much more affordable, customizable and easier to get in relatively small quantities/sets/re-orders. I just thing they deserve a little more light shed on them for the noobs in the poker chip world. The more popular they become, the cheaper they will become for those of us who like them. More vendors/manufacturers would pop up and competition brings lower pricing. With ABC owning every vendor in the States, we don't have a whole lot of domestic choices and they can charge whatever they want. ChipCo is unresponsive and basically catering only to casinos and corporations - ignoring the small custom runs that they used to offer. When Poker was a bigger deal back in the early 2000s, we had a lot of homegrown, custom ceramic options (ChipCo, Nevada Jacks, BR Pro, Palm Imports, etc) and the prices were way better. I'd like to see that again (along with more ceramic customs in these forum pages).

Not a rant! Just a passionate opinion - a fiery 2¢.
 
Well, pick one - sift through a huge thread to find a few needles in a haystack, or have a thread that will usually be buried in the forum list since people will only rarely post in it.

It is what it is - the "classic" clay look is just far more popular with the people here. Hell, they even do faux clay on ceramics en masse.

Design-wise, it simply gives people a solid, time-tested framework. A completely blank canvas can be far more intimidating than being given numerous but ultimately finite choices to pick from and then already having finished the carrying part of the chip design. Of course you can still click together absolutely hideous designs for a clay chip, but that really does require some special "skill". On the other hand, designing a ceramic chip well that is not classic clay-style is quite a challenge. Something I would absolutely not recommend to newbies who do not yet know what pitfalls to watch out for. There's also no shortage of brittle junk ceramic chips for newbies to waste their money on, so that's not an argument against clays.

For the time being, you could browse through the chip database. It only contains sets that actually were made, but there's a good number of entries and you do not have to skip over tons of clay chips if you use the chip search function. Filter by manufacturer one-by-one. The number of manufacturers in that list who make clays aren't that numerous, you can check out all the others.
 
Nex said:
Well, pick one - sift through a huge thread to find a few needles in a haystack, or have a thread that will usually be buried in the forum list since people will only rarely post in it.

It is what it is - the "classic" clay look is just far more popular with the people here. Hell, they even do faux clay on ceramics en masse.

Design-wise, it simply gives people a solid, time-tested framework. A completely blank canvas can be far more intimidating than being given numerous but ultimately finite choices to pick from and then already having finished the carrying part of the chip design. Of course you can still click together absolutely hideous designs for a clay chip, but that really does require some special "skill". On the other hand, designing a ceramic chip well that is not classic clay-style is quite a challenge. Something I would absolutely not recommend to newbies who do not yet know what pitfalls to watch out for. There's also no shortage of brittle junk ceramic chips for newbies to waste their money on, so that's not an argument against clays.

For the time being, you could browse through the chip database. It only contains sets that actually were made, but there's a good number of entries and you do not have to skip over tons of clay chips if you use the chip search function. Filter by manufacturer one-by-one. The number of manufacturers in that list who make clays aren't that numerous, you can check out all the others.
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I hear you, Nex. I'm no stranger to poker chips or surprised that Clays are the top choice. I've been around on Chiptalk since the early 2000s and know without a doubt that clays are far more popular and that it's not likely to change.

Your argument for the time-tested framework is well put and well received. I guess being in the graphics industry for so many years contributes heavily to my preference of the blank canvas and pure creative freedom. I see how that could be intimidating for a lot of people who just want a nice looking set of chips. The appeal of a pick-and-place 'DIY' design option for that makes total sense.
 

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