removing Paulson inlays (1 Viewer)

[superchromix]

How difficult is it to remove the inlays of older Paulson home chips (e.g. CDI '98)? They look to be quite well stuck in there...

Just considering this from the perspective of a relabeling project.

thanks

 

[Rhodeman77]

I tried one as a test. After 5 minutes and all I have is a gouged up chip I stopped.

 

[superchromix]

I tried one as a test. After 5 minutes and all I have is a gouged up chip I stopped.

^^^ good to know. thanks

 

[wgicon]

I tried removing the inlays of a few Paulson chips using the drill press/router bit method. It didn't work so well for me. For one thing, it can be a little dangerous compared to the same method for removing hotstamps because once you get to the point of displacing the inlay, the inlay itself flies off (at least that was my experience), and it's also harder to hold the chip in place. I thought it didn't leave as clean of a finished product either (again, comparing this method to removing hotstamps) just because the shape of the inlay will influence what's left around the inside of the chip, assuming you stop drilling once the inlay comes off.

 

[superchromix]

I could swear I've seen pictures of chips where the inlay was just popped out with a pen knife. CPCs?

 

[Ronoh]

I could swear I've seen pictures of chips where the inlay was just popped out with a pen knife. CPCs?

Yes, CPC

 

[Meddler2]

There was a site that offered paulson blanks with your custom label design. Can't recall what the site was and I didn't have much luck w searching but I posted the link either here or on CT 1-2 years ago.

 

[softchewy]

Gear offers this service.. you may want to ask him, but I wouldn't expect any full disclosure.
I haven't tried it, but I suspect soaking them in very hot water might help the process without damaging the actual chip.

 

[justsomedude]

I think removing the plastic "cap" is easy. Getting the inlay/sticker out without damaging the chip might be tricky. There is a thread with detailed photos (imgur link) over on CT ...

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/threads/my-custom-pharaohs-paulson-project.90671/

Looks like he just used an xacto knife to get the plastic cap off. He then references a "custom solvent" for removing the sticker.

 

[BGinGA]

soaking them in very hot water might help the process without will damageing the actual chip.

FYP.

No way to pick up a Paulson chip that has soaked in very hot water without damaging it. It will warp under it's own weight in a spoon, and anything you use to pick it up in that condition will leave an indentation mark (pliers, tweezers, whatever). Not to mention the ill-effects on the color pigments.....

 

[softchewy]

FYP.

No way to pick up a Paulson chip that has soaked in very hot water without damaging it. It will warp under it's own weight in a spoon, and anything you use to pick it up in that condition will leave an indentation mark (pliers, tweezers, whatever). Not to mention the ill-effects on the color pigments.....

good to know, what temp are we talking?
fyi sent you an email RE RSFI RVCLs

 

[BGinGA]

good to know, what temp are we talking?

My general rule of thumb is that if it's too hot for me to stick in my hand without discomfort, then it's too hot for chips. Think of it as comfortably warm.

 

[upNdown]

I think removing the plastic "cap" is easy. Getting the inlay/sticker out without damaging the chip might be tricky. There is a thread with detailed photos (imgur link) over on CT ...

http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/threads/my-custom-pharaohs-paulson-project.90671/

Looks like he just used an xacto knife to get the plastic cap off. He then references a "custom solvent" for removing the sticker.

wow that was a lot of work to changes a set of fantasy chips into a set of fantasy chips. that guy really loved his pharohs

 

[Jagamov]

Sorry for the slight derail....so do newer Paulson chips have a different inlay process?

One of my Horseshoe Cincinnati chips had a damaged plastic cap (part of the edge had started to lift) so for curiosity, I peeled it off. The label underneath was a vinyl type label that peeled off pretty easily.

Just curious since the older inlays didn't seem to have this cap and were impossible to remove without damage.

 

[superchromix]

Sorry for the slight derail....so do newer Paulson chips have a different inlay process?

One of my Horseshoe Cincinnati chips had a damaged plastic cap (part of the edge had started to lift) so for curiosity, I peeled it off. The label underneath was a vinyl type label that peeled off pretty easily.

Just curious since the older inlays didn't seem to have this cap and were impossible to remove without damage.

I think when it comes down to it, there are quite a few "types" of Paulson inlay out there. For example, CDI '98, Casablanca, WTHC, Horseshoe Cleveland, Empress... the inlays of all five of these chips seem to have a different construction / different materials

 

[SuckoutKing]

Paulson chip inlays are pressed into the chip. I don't see getting them off.

 

[rowlin]

Inlay replacement is a thing, but I dunno how it's done.

 

[softchewy]

Paulson chip inlays are pressed into the chip. I don't see getting them off.

it's not a question of whether removing the inlay is possible without damaging the chip (it is of course possible) it is a matter of the effort involved and the best process to do it.

Here is an example of gear's label replacement handywork (@bentax1978 's picture from his awesome Nooksack project)

 

[BGinGA]

I think when it comes down to it, there are quite a few "types" of Paulson inlay out there. For example, CDI '98, Casablanca, WTHC, Horseshoe Cleveland, Empress... the inlays of all five of these chips seem to have a different construction / different materials

There are definitely different laminate types, and probably different print material bases, too (paper, linen, vinyl). Plus different applications.... some older Paulson chips have textured inlays (due to the mold impression) - I suspect those are much harder to remove.

 

[upNdown]

some older Paulson chips have textured inlays

I guess I assumed that most THC mold chips had textured inlays. The only newer ones I've seen are the horseshoe clevelands, and I assumed those inlays weren't textured, only to match the rest of the RHC set.
Are you saying that on the rare occasions that casinos are having new chips made on a THC mold, they're not being done with textured inlays?
That's sad news.

 

[bentax1978]

Are you saying that on the rare occasions that casinos are having new chips made on a THC mold, they're not being done with textured inlays?
That's sad news.

Every current THC casino chip I know of has a smooth inlay. I can't think of a single of a single (current) textured one.

Edit: Here's a pic of some (mostly) current THC casino chips. All smooth inlays

 

[kmccormick100]

I think when it comes down to it, there are quite a few "types" of Paulson inlay out there. For example, CDI '98, Casablanca, WTHC, Horseshoe Cleveland, Empress... the inlays of all five of these chips seem to have a different construction / different materials

The newer inlays in say the Horshoe $1s come out pretty easily if you make an incision with an exacto knife and peel up the plastic laminate and vinyl it comes pretty cleanly. Older Paulsons shaped or round allow the laminate to be peeled up fairly easily, but the inlay was a thick paper with an adhesive that doesn't come off easily with water, alcohol or goo gone, not sure how Gear cleanly removes and replaces these older ones.

 

[kmccormick100]

Every current THC casino chip I know of has a smooth inlay. I can't think of a single of a single (current) textured one.

Edit: Here's a pic of some (mostly) current THC casino chips. All smooth inlays

View attachment 89773

These inlays should all come out pretty easily. I know the HSC and Venetian ones do

 

[justsomedude]

This thread makes me wonder about the Stardust Mansion chips. They seem to have no laminate "cap" at all, just an "exposed" inlay. I'm not sure it's clear what I'm trying to convey. :/

 

[upNdown]

Every current THC casino chip I know of has a smooth inlay. I can't think of a single of a single (current) textured one.

Edit: Here's a pic of some (mostly) current THC casino chips. All smooth inlays

View attachment 89773

Thanks for the reply. I can't give you a like, because I don't like that.

 

[bentax1978]

These inlays should all come out pretty easily. I know the HSC and Venetian ones do

HSC and Venetian aren't too bad, though I found the former easier than the latter. Can't speak to the rest of them other than the Flamingo chip inlays (not pictured) are a PITA to remove.

It's in part because of this that I went with the first two chips for a few projects.

 

[superchromix]

For what it's worth, here are a few detail images of various Paulson shaped inlays. Perhaps these are more similar than I thought. I haven't included any inlays of the modern type shown in Bentax's post. Bonus points for naming the chip.

 

[bentax1978]

This thread makes me wonder about the Stardust Mansion chips. They seem to have no laminate "cap" at all, just an "exposed" inlay. I'm not sure it's clear what I'm trying to convey. :/

As I recall there actually is a top layer on those. I also recall inlay removal on those inlays to be extremely tough compared to others.

 

[softchewy]

Casino de Isthmus City '98 shaped inlay
PCA .50
PCA $1 sec
Horseshoe club LV, $1
Empress $5 pri
WTHC $1k

 

[12thMan]

My general rule of thumb is that if it's too hot for me to stick in my hand without discomfort, then it's too hot for chips. Think of it as comfortably warm.

Could be an issue though if your hand is comfortably numb.