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So it Begins... (12 Viewers)

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Further supporting the flips while expressing dissatisfaction with same.
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Excerpt from creators own post. Can one know what the unobtanium chip is?
 
bernielomax said:
Here are some great things about this sale:

600pc Primary set - $6.46 per chip average
600pc Secondary set $7.60 per chip average
No relabeling necessary
Playable on day one, no waiting around for something to come up in the classifieds or begging other members to sell.
Countless other existing sets being offered for sale in the PCF classifieds at great prices
An additional supply of THC chips to the market place
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bergs said:
Jim at Chiproom doesn’t release his quantities while selling. Why would Ken? I wouldn’t if I were him.

The boat NAGBs were different - those were people putting in specific orders versus Ken getting chips from GPI with an intention of bringing some to market here and keeping some.
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upNdown said:
Yup. I think the sets were priced crazy fair at $6-7 per chip.
If people want to add on racks at donkey prices of $1k to $1500 per rack, that's
1) their business and
2) not out of line with what we've seen with recent nagb sales
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Who cares about facts or common sense... Some just enjoy creating controversy and spew incorrect information...this is 'social media' after all
 
kk405 said:
This is patently false and I can completely understand why some people feel 'hurt'...especially if they are Vendors and have been in the business for a long time... this has always been part of NAGBs, especially when they are unveiled, ut starting rumors and innuendos without any proof is irresponsible and slanderous.

If you want keep spewing falsehood, go ahead..these attitudes have been around since the first NAGB...and will never go away...
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I'm not hurt Ken.... and spewing falsehoods is not what I do, just mentioning what all the secrecy spawns and what folks are saying.... again sir just being transparent puts a stop to the "rumors" They Are not my rumors its whats being said.
 
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RivieraDanny said:
They Are not my rumors its whats being said.
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Danny, that part has been addressed specifically many times from the very beginning. I am not even sure how that rumor got started lol. If a reload of chips could be ordered anytime then I wouldn’t have had to go broke buying what I did :LOL: :laugh:
 
kk405 said:
Who cares about facts or common sense... Some just enjoy creating controversy and spew incorrect information...this is 'social media' after all
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The facts are you won't even say why the numbers are a secret. Does it matter how many there are? Yes to some it may. But I get that you will sell every last chip and that's great, you're selling things as a vendor now I've been told that comes with responsibility. I'm not spreading rumor or creating controversy, I'm asking legit questions.. No need to attack my character here to protect the margins, which I agree are none of anyone's business. chip selling is not my "business" it comes with the hobby selling off stuff you obtained to get other stuff.....
 
RivieraDanny said:
I'm not hurt Ken.... and spewing falsehoods is not what I do, just mentioning what all the secrecy spawns and what folks are saying.... again sir just being transparent puts a stop to the "rumors" They Are not my rumors its whats being said.
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one last time, it's not going to happen... for all the reasons that the sane people have expressed in this tread, other treads, and other NAGB threads...enjoy your day... and stop being hurt...it's obvious to everyone

and I am done with this....posting some pictures of the Limit Sets for sale shortly...

enjoy your day everyone....
 
I only continued because @kk405 decided to call me a rumor starter and controversial spewing mis-information. in the event that I wanted to buy some of these from the flippers I would want to know a definite availability of the chips. It's not a huge ask.... There's no victim here.... I also need more coffee, the questions are real. A simple answer would be appreciated but I'm sure won't be given. I'm done here now.
 
Yeah Ken. I’m not so sure why anyone would be busting your balls here. You bought some chips, you are selling chips. Nobody in your shoes would do differently. Not sure why the beef.
 
I actually started looking into the numbers... will publish something in a few minutes ... it's wild ... rumors, falsehoods, and facts...
 
According to WWF"...Based on the best available information, tiger populations are stable or increasing in India, Nepal, Bhutan, Russia and China. About 4,500 tigers remain in the wild..." https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/tiger

According to Wikipedia " ...As of 2015, the global wild tiger population was estimated to number between 3,062 and 3,948 mature individuals..." https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/tiger

Today, apparrently there are a lot more of them...somehow maybe someone found a way to creat more: "...An estimated 3,726 to 5,578 tigers currently live in the wild worldwide — up 40% from 2015..." https://www.npr.org/2022/07/23/1113186725/tigers-population-numbers-endangered-species

I guess the controversy will live on.... :unsure:
 
kk405 said:
According to WWF"...Based on the best available information, tiger populations are stable or increasing in India, Nepal, Bhutan, Russia and China. About 4,500 tigers remain in the wild..." https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/tiger

According to Wikipedia " ...As of 2015, the global wild tiger population was estimated to number between 3,062 and 3,948 mature individuals..." https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/tiger

Today, apparrently there are a lot more of them...somehow maybe someone found a way to creat more: "...An estimated 3,726 to 5,578 tigers currently live in the wild worldwide — up 40% from 2015..." https://www.npr.org/2022/07/23/1113186725/tigers-population-numbers-endangered-species

I guess the controversy will live on.... :unsure:
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Well done.
 
I hope I can buy more of these chips. I'm cool with the price. Maybe I'm just a fanboy of bright chips....so I will buy as many as I can without dipping into my wife's wine and yarn budget. Or, my crawfish, oyster, and foie gras budget (which used to be uncapped).

Thanks Ken....don't care about how many chips you have.

I only care about my chips (and how many I have)...no offense!

I hope you make enough money to do this again...

Love,

LB
 
RivieraDanny said:
The facts are you won't even say why the numbers are a secret. Does it matter how many there are? Yes to some it may. But I get that you will sell every last chip and that's great, you're selling things as a vendor now I've been told that comes with responsibility. I'm not spreading rumor or creating controversy, I'm asking legit questions.. No need to attack my character here to protect the margins, which I agree are none of anyone's business. chip selling is not my "business" it comes with the hobby selling off stuff you obtained to get other stuff.....
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RivieraDanny, can you reconcile this?

1) You're okay with someone turning a profit
2) You acknowledge that releasing chip counts may hurt profits
3) You're upset kk405 doesn't release chip counts, which may hurt his profits and brings him no upside

MatB said:
Me: hi Ken I'd like to know how many Tiger chips were made.

ken: I'm not sharing that information.

Me: Ok no worries.



Not sure how much more talking 2 adults would need beyond that interaction.
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Hey Ken, my apologies if this has been answered.
But would the 48mm Paulson Dealer Button be made available for the additional rack/ limit set sale, available on their own, or were they only going to be available for the sample sets? Thank you very much :cool
 
elemeno said:
RivieraDanny, can you reconcile this?

1) You're okay with someone turning a profit
2) You acknowledge that releasing chip counts may hurt profits
3) You're upset kk405 doesn't release chip counts, which may hurt his profits and brings him no upside
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Again, addressed...
My answer has always been the same. I don't care about the profit. More power to him.
to your #3, I'm not "upset" he won't say the count. Just bewildered as to the reason why, from the source, not the speculation of others why. I don't speak for Ken and others shouldn't either.
Evading the question why with insults furthers the quest for the answer. I'm not owed the answer, nor do I expect it so I'll accept no answer. But don't accuse me of rumor, innuendo and false facts as I have created none of that.
 
JeepologyOffroad said:
Very excited to see these things. Normally don’t like acrylic buttons because they are so light, but these are big and heavy. I think the WPT is using the exact same buttons.
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I can very easily see these replacing current buttons regarding felt time. Seems funny that the buttons of old are so widely used, we lose sight of them in every home game.
 
BarrieJ3 said:
I can very easily see these replacing current buttons regarding felt time. Seems funny that the buttons of old are so widely used, we lose sight of them in every home game.
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I sure hope so. I’ve been putting off a matsui button order for a while. Hoping these satisfy the urge
 
RivieraDanny said:
Again, addressed...
My answer has always been the same. I don't care about the profit. More power to him.
to your #3, I'm not "upset" he won't say the count. Just bewildered as to the reason why, from the source, not the speculation of others why. I don't speak for Ken and others shouldn't either.
Evading the question why with insults furthers the quest for the answer. I'm not owed the answer, nor do I expect it so I'll accept no answer. But don't accuse me of rumor, innuendo and false facts as I have created none of that.
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But we all know the answer already - it's for economic reasons. Why do you need to hear it from his lips?
 

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