Tangiers and the Quest for a Tina Hybrid Faux Inlay (5 Viewers)

[justincarothers]

I’m sure you spent countless hours putting this together and everyone can tell how passionate you are about it. I’m excited to see the final lineup!

Are you going to create a tournament set to leverage the same mold as well?

Tournament set needs to be all round labels @Cratty

 

[ChipMonster]

Tournament set needs to be all round labels @Cratty

Or a faux hotstamp like the frac option

 

[ranger764]

Tournament set needs to be all round labels @Cratty

I was thinking while the shaped inlays are nice a round inlay option would be nice to mix and match the labels and chips but I’m sure that wouldn’t make sense for the overall groupbuy

 

[doublebooyah85]

Tournament set needs to be all round labels @Cratty

And no $

 

[Cratty]

Tangiers 2: Electric Boogaloo

 

[BGinGA]

Tournament set needs to be all round labels @Cratty

Or all denom labels using a single shape (not necessarily round). All hubs or scallops looks pretty classy.

 

[justincarothers]

Or all denom labels using a single shape (not necessarily round). All hubs or scallops looks pretty classy.

Trying to save ourselves from another round of color matching

 

[ChipMonster]

Trying to save ourselves from another round of color matching

Sounds like too much fun not to go through twice!

 

[dylanthepiguy2]

@Cratty did you end up making a cmyk screen => cmyk chip, and cmyk screen => cmyk label colour mapping that youre willing to share?

for me personally i primarily care about what the max sat high val colours are that i can use for accents on a no mold chip
seconarily i care about how less strong versions of these colours turn out as well on the chip

 

[Cratty]

@Cratty did you end up making a cmyk screen => cmyk chip, and cmyk screen => cmyk label colour mapping that youre willing to share?

for me personally i primarily care about what the max sat high val colours are that i can use for accents on a no mold chip
seconarily i care about how less strong versions of these colours turn out as well on the chip

No, Tina changed to a new printer, so chip colors wont match my samples.

 

[ChippinUp]

@justincarothers do you have any idea when a group buy will be available for the Tangiers?

 

[justincarothers]

@justincarothers do you have any idea when a group buy will be available for the Tangiers?

We should have final color test runs soon. So shortly after that

 

[UncleMilty]

I’m looking forward to seeing the final product.

 

[davesilver88]

Stupid question coming in, even after I read the entire thread.

“Faux inlay” - does that mean you’re trying to get the background color of the inlay to match the base color of the chip?

Just trying to confirm. Cause perhaps one day I’d want to get a Tina hybrid “faux inlay” cash set, where the inlay looks like a hot stamp.

 

[allforcharity]

Stupid question coming in, even after I read the entire thread.

“Faux inlay” - does that mean you’re trying to get the background color of the inlay to match the base color of the chip?

Just trying to confirm. Cause perhaps one day I’d want to get a Tina hybrid “faux inlay” cash set, where the inlay looks like a hot stamp.

Depends a bit on context.

Faux inlay could be used to represent anything that's not a true inlay. It could mean:
- anything that has replaced a real inlay, such as an aftermarket sticker
- a surface-printed graphic that is designed to appear like a traditional inlay

It is quite challenging to replicate a hot stamp with an aftermarket sticker because:
- it can be quite challenging to replicate the base chip colour 100% correctly
- sticker makers can not yet print in true metallic colours to replicate foil

 

[davesilver88]

Depends a bit on context.

Faux inlay could be used to represent anything that's not a true inlay. It could mean:
- anything that has replaced a real inlay, such as an aftermarket sticker
- a surface-printed graphic that is designed to appear like a traditional inlay

It is quite challenging to replicate a hot stamp with an aftermarket sticker because:
- it can be quite challenging to replicate the base chip colour 100% correctly
- sticker makers can not yet print in true metallic colours to replicate foil

Got it. Thanks for the info!

Any solutions for a hot stamp look on chips like Tina’s?

 

[Colquhoun]

Got it. Thanks for the info!

Any solutions for a hot stamp look on chips like Tina’s?

I've made some faux hotstamps for a few different sets. Here was an early version printed on cards mold:

Here is one with a faux hotstamp and a faux mold, printed on Tina no-molds:

This is a later attempt at faux foil that was not printed, but you get the idea:

I think you can get some of the illusion of a hotstamp, but as @allforcharity mentioned, getting the background color of the label to match the base chip is paramount. It still might not work at all, since hotstamp is supposted to be pressed into the base...so even if you got the color right, the texture and reflection would be different.

 

[davesilver88]

I've made some faux hotstamps for a few different sets. Here was an early version printed on cards mold:
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Here is one with a faux hotstamp and a faux mold, printed on Tina no-molds:
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This is a later attempt at faux foil that was not printed, but you get the idea:
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I think you can get some of the illusion of a hotstamp, but as @allforcharity mentioned, getting the background color of the label to match the base chip is paramount. It still might not work at all, since hotstamp is supposted to be pressed into the base...so even if you got the color right, the texture and reflection would be different.

Thanks for all the info.

I figured at some point someone would of created a faux hot stamp using the TRK denom font, but I can see how that wouldn’t be so easy to pull off.

Maybe I will be the first.

 

[allforcharity]

Got it. Thanks for the info!

Any solutions for a hot stamp look on chips like Tina’s?

The only thing I can think of is to print the base colour throughout the recessed area, then apply a transparent sticker with your imitation foil text/graphic in there, but I don't know if Tina offers that (or if it would look good).

 

[Colquhoun]

The only thing I can think of is to print the base colour throughout the recessed area, then apply a transparent sticker with your imitation foil text/graphic in there, but I don't know if Tina offers that (or if it would look good).

The problem is hybrids have 4 mold marks on one side of each chip in the recess.

 

[allforcharity]

The problem is hybrids have 4 injection marks on one side of each chip in the recess.
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Ah, well that sucks then.

 

[CharlesPlays]

How do i get involved with the group buy? I'm brand new to the forum so not sure how the process works. Was working on my own Tangiers design until i found this thread and fell in love with the design and concept. The design of these chips and your previous ones are spectacular, @Cratty . I would love to get 1 to 2k chips when the time comes and samples if possible. Thanks for any help, excited to join the community!!!

 

[Cratty]

Thanks and soon! Tina reopened recently, just pending final color test and edge spot test round, hope to open the buy soon.. will share a cross-link once available.

 

[davesilver88]

Seems like at the moment, non hybrid Tina’s are the way to go for faux hot stamps. Anyone got any pics showing otherwise?

 

[UncleMilty]

Thanks to @Cratty and @justincarothers for the samples. Incredible is the only way to describe this project. The feel, quality and design are top-notch.

My only suggestion for improvement would be to increase the shaped inlay size. There is room by reducing the label’s color border.

Typical shaped inlay chips have approximately 2.3mm shaped inlays while the Tangiers’ are only approximately 2.0mm. I feel the shaped inlay portion of the label appears too small.

I’ve attached comparison photos - comparing to classic Vegas chips and popular China Clays.

Hopefully, I won’t get flamed for this! I’d buy them either way.

(I read through several pages of this thread and didn’t notice any mention of this - sorry and thanks if it’s already in the works!)

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Are these molds or flat?

 

[Cratty]

Are these molds or flat?

It's an actual mold, all thanks there to Justin.

 

[DrunkleWade]

Are these molds or flat?

Don’t be lazy mate, read the thread.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...-a-tina-hybrid-faux-inlay.123415/post-2574149

 

[ranger764]

To be fair the thread is 15 pages long

 

[Cratty]

Don’t be lazy mate, read the thread.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...-a-tina-hybrid-faux-inlay.123415/post-2574149

Ha.. I cant blame anyone for not wading through 15 pages. Hoping we're almost done though, so we're finally just in the showcase territory vs this stump thread!

We had some back an forth a couple weeks ago, just pending a couple chip spot edits and new inlay color tests before hopefully we're off to the races.

 

[DrunkleWade]

To be fair the thread is 15 pages long

Well yes but the mold reveal was only on page 7 (he says with a hint of smartassery)