@Machine I am so lost here, maybe too much reading? But about to embark on a Custom
CPC Journey and want to get it right. Also wanting this new set to handle a smaller game (Like $20 Buy in) than our current, but I don't know what that should be? Ie is it .05 / .10 or .10 / .25 (I don't understand how the .10/.25 works to be honest). Not adverse to NCV chips at the Lowest and Highest ends to help this along. So main goal is to cover existing .25 / .50, but wanting to cover below:
Micro - .25/.50 - .50/$1 - $1/$1
We'll find other games, or venues for $1/$2 and even the $1/$1 ends up being a special grouping, like once in past 3 years; so kind of looking for minimum, not optimal.
We normally play .25 / .50 and we actually cap pretty hard at 8 players, the thought of planning on 10 is not lost on me, but again seems like alot of uneccessary spending. Don't want to pay for the exception, and would rather have the investment go into the rule, if that makes sense? Our game doesn't play large, in our initial Rack of $5s I've never broken into the last 2 Barrels. We also currently use a $2 chip, which I know is inefficient, and would maybe like to correct that going forward.
This is our current start for $50 Buy in:
12x .25
12x $1
5x $2
5x $5
Rebuys are handled with:
2x $5
2x $20
Whats the map out for this:
NCV Micro
.25
$1
$5
$20 or is this NCV Macro
First I would ask if you've read the link in my signature (landscape on mobile), hopefully you have as it will help in reading this response.
I rarely play .05 or .1 stakes, but I too recently purchased a new
CPC set with it in mind. The smallest order for
CPC is 300, or you can go in with someone else to meet mins. I bring this up because while I'll want a .05 chip, I don't want to go over my (annual) budget. I'm doing some crazy stuff and what if I don't like the chips. I'm trying to shy away from buying more of the same chip as there can be slight differences in color when purchased from different batches, year over year. I skipped the .05 for a future buy, but I do have an idea of what I want to pick up.
I ran a .25/.5 PLO game on my chip sets for over a year, I found for my group .25 / .5 slows the game down. I don't have a bunch of headphone wearing backpack GTO players, our group, they like to socialize. So we moved to .5/.5 and the dealer says 'option' and if they don't respond, he runs it.
For the flex of being able to run a .25/.25 and or a .5/.5 and the efficiency of my wallet in this regard I went non-denom, for the prescriptivist in me NCV is 'No Cash Value' and the chip is not a Tourney chip so ... As I wouldn't spread both a .25 and .5 in the same game this will work out.
As for the .05 chip, I'm not sure if I need to have a denom or can get away with a possible 2 non denom in a game of such low stakes and often those players would be less experiences and it might be confusing for them. This is a cognitive dissidence for another time.
The philosophical argument is the basis for this thread, if you said we only ever play mix games, and never more than 8, I would say great, calculate off of 8. BUT I wouldn't buy less than a rack of a given chip. I can give several scenarios where having a full rack of the chip is better position than not spending an additional 100 bucks.
Starting with a bank for 8 ppl, 3 rebuys and a $50 start, thats 1,200 and over time it will creep up.
12 fracs isn't crazy given that at 8 it still comes in under a rack. So making the assumption you forego a .05 chip atm lets call it
Non-Denom x 100
Onto the $1s, and a special case for the $2 which I have to say, for someone looking for or even just mentioning it, efficiency of cost, this is egregious, due to only a x2 value.
I think the best quantity of $1s in the avg .25/.5 or .5/.5 is 180, (due to it being a workhorse chip) in 1/1+ you're likely to not get more than 120 (and thats including NLH) on the table. Note this is for a single table, my entire post here assumes single table, so two racks covers all of it.
$1 x 200
I don't use $2 chips, I would think a single rack would cover anything you need, and if you spread 2 tables these will come in as a buffer for only buying 2 racks of 1s. I can't think of much 'usefulness' in this chip. I'm not a ba-humbug, this chip has to be fun and I'm sure its great in the game, it conflicts with the value statement though.
$2 x 100
For most of the break down I am ignoring the $2 chip and the affect it will have on the bank considerations, 1 rack is a gimmie in the overall affect. I don't think anyone should buy less than 3 racks of 5s, its always a workhorse chip (okay unless you're playing stakes less than .25/.25, which it is then not a workhorse chip).
$5 x 300
This will cover your bank and give you a buffer, tomorrow you may want to spread something a little different and this should be able to be versatile enough to cover that as well.
Recap
Frac x 100
1 x 200
2 x 100
5 x 300
Part of the factor of this break down comes with the ability to re-sell. This break down will fit 95% of the games ppl look to spread, you take out the 2s and it will cover just about any sub 1/1 game.
The budget for this chip set will typically be in the 2k-4k range.
If the reader doesn't want to go with the 2s and doesn't like plaques they can still do an add on and get value out of the set.
If you just want another cool chip or two to hold value and really pad the bank, you should be able to do 20 of two more denoms for minimal impact on your wallet. Also moar chips! Its also a great way to test out a chip. If it was my order I would do
20 x 20
100 x 20
and go ham on the 20 and hundo. Or you could do a tribute chip, or an $8 chip, player chip, all kinds of fun stuff.
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