The Walking Dead (2 Viewers)

I didn't get around to reading this thread for over a week. Kind of funny to see that nobody - myself included - was right (unless you count my post that says you cannot really predict how things will go, because the show isn't real, and therefore immune to all the logic we base our predictions on).

I love how it wrapped up, but now my question is: Does Rick become the new leader, or Deanna's pitbull?
 
I thought that the season finale was done pretty damn superbly. The climax in the last ten or so minutes was some pretty amazing writing/directing. Rick is fighting zombies, Sasha wants to blow away the priest, Glenn is about to kill that scumbag, the meeting, and the 'wolves' come home to their hoard of weaponized zombies.
 
Carol was (and has been) fantastic, I love the two roles she's playing, when that sinister woman comes out it's just amazing.

But the scene with the zombies in the trucks that attack Daryl and that guy from the L.L. Bean Catalog was LOLtastic. 110% predictable that they were going to get attacked as soon as they flung open the doors. Then they hide under the truck, then they hop into the van to get themselves surrounded (all for atmospheric impact from the shows director, makes -110% otherwise). Then they think they need to find stuff inside the van so the horde of zombies outside the windows "can't see" them. Then they sit for about 20 minutes having a heart to heart (and a smoke) and the zombies fail to even crack the glass. Then they are able to easily open the doors of the van and get outside despite 4+ zombies pressing against the door on either side.

They kill off someone nobody cares about and that is somehow supposed to be the great secret they were keeping, and everyone in the town just accepts Ricks rule without any discussion. I was really hoping they'd kill off that priest already, I hate him more than Carl and I didn't think that was possible.
 
99% sure im out on Season 2 of Better Call Saul, did not do enough to keep me engaged

I dont know if i want to waste any amount of time on another TWD show either
 
Better Call Saul didn't do it for you? Just wondering what you didn't like about it.

On Rotten Tomatoes it was 100% certified fresh, with 61 critics giving it an average 8.1/10 rating. 94% of user reviews (out of almost 3,000) liked it, giving it a 4.6/5 rating. So while everyone is certainly allowed to have their own subjective opinion, yours is obviously wrong.
 
dunno if i can point to anything in particular, it had its peaks and valleys, but i think the valleys outweighed the peaks.

guess maybe i'm like the patriots, id rather be out a year early on a show (player) than a year too late

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Better Call Saul didn't do it for you? Just wondering what you didn't like about it.

On Rotten Tomatoes it was 100% certified fresh, with 61 critics giving it an average 8.1/10 rating. 94% of user reviews (out of almost 3,000) liked it, giving it a 4.6/5 rating. So while everyone is certainly allowed to have their own subjective opinion, yours is obviously wrong.

i loved better call saul and definitely plan on continuing on. that said, i do have some criticisms. i guess from what is listed above with regard to rotten tomatoes, etc., my criticisms might not be shared, but i wish it had deviated more completely from the tone of breaking bad.

the first episode of the series was a lot closer to what i expected and hoped for: a comedy. the comedic elements in the show after the first few episodes were, like breaking bad, almost exclusively darkly comedic. i love that stuff, but i think they could have stretched out a bit more in BCC, particularly given odenkirk's strengths as a performer.

i don't deny that there were some absolute gems of episodes within the first season. i thought at least two of them were actually flawless. but by that i really mean that they did precisely what they set out to do. my criticism is that what they set out to do was too close to what breaking bad set out to do.

i think it would have been far more interesting to see a half-hour comedy than another hour-long drama chronicling a protagonist's trajectory from mediocre law-abiding citizen to powerful criminal operator. yes, there are interesting aspects to the narrative and obviously saul doesn't precisely mirror walter white in every instance, but in the end it is a second-rate breaking bad and i had hoped for the show to take more chances.
 
but in the end it is a second-rate breaking bad and i had hoped for the show to take more chances.

THIS

I've already seen Breaking Bad, probably close to 3 full times. I dont need to see another variation of the same show.

And for that reason, I do no intend on watching the new TWD as I would imagine this will be the same case over again
 
THIS

I've already seen Breaking Bad, probably close to 3 full times. I dont need to see another variation of the same show.

And for that reason, I do no intend on watching the new TWD as I would imagine this will be the same case over again
It should be much different than TWD as it is set in the beginning stages of the epidemic. I'm excited for it.
 
It should be much different than TWD as it is set in the beginning stages of the epidemic. I'm excited for it.

Couldnt you make the same argument for BB, as Better Call Saul appears to have take place much further before Walter White starts his business.
 
Couldnt you make the same argument for BB, as Better Call Saul appears to have take place much further before Walter White starts his business.

which was my hope for the show: that it would take a different tack and present a new tone. didn't really happen. and since the showrunners of TWD have been about 20% as devoted to creative development as Vince Gilligan, i'm not optimistic here.
 
I actually like the first season of Better Call Saul better than I liked the first season of Breaking Bad. Not that I didn't like BB, I did. I think maybe BB got your expectations up so high that nothing could live up to it. As far as the new Walking Dead, the first season is only 6 episondes long, so I'll give it a shot. I'm not expecting it the greatest show on tv by any means, but it has piqued my curiosity enough to watch at least a couple episodes.
 
I actually like the first season of Better Call Saul better than I liked the first season of Breaking Bad. Not that I didn't like BB, I did. I think maybe BB got your expectations up so high that nothing could live up to it. As far as the new Walking Dead, the first season is only 6 episondes long, so I'll give it a shot. I'm not expecting it the greatest show on tv by any means, but it has piqued my curiosity enough to watch at least a couple episodes.

interesting points, i think, but i posted my response here in the BCC thread so as to no longer hijack TWD thread.
 
Sorry Butler, but my expectations post was for mma, you just responded too damn quickly lol

i think MMA would cosign my response, though. it's not really about the expectation that it be a better version of a copycat breaking bad; it's about expecting it to be something new.
 
Well if I can speak for MMA as well, I would say that he's secretely ashamed of Tom Brady and the Patriots cheating ways, and his they hate us cause they aint us talk is all deflection.
 
i think MMA would cosign my response, though. it's not really about the expectation that it be a better version of a copycat breaking bad; it's about expecting it to be something new.


Correct, I dont care to see the same show in 2 perspectives.

If you want to look at this wholistically, just imagine a 5? maybe 6? year window of actual time within the Breaking Bad/BCS shows.

Year 1 - Saul is working towards becoming a legitimate lawyer




Year 5/6 - Walter White's business has concluded and he dies.


All the time and space in between those two moments in time, essentially is the same show; written the same, acted the same, shot the same

I wanted something new; whether that be a supremely darker drama, a lighter comedy, or something else I do not know what I wanted it to be.

I just did not want it to be the same show, I'm bored of it.


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#HateOnProbableDeflators?
 
So you loved the first show so much you watched it three times, but now the new show is the same as the old show, so you are abandoning it after one season? Makes sense, I suppose.
 
So you loved the first show so much you watched it three times, but now the new show is the same as the old show, so you are abandoning it after one season? Makes sense, I suppose.

i think it does actually. BB was a contained piece and was very, very good. BCC is mining the same narrative and emotional territory, but because we know where it ends, it is necessarily less compelling. it's the same reason Kid A is a masterpiece and Amnesiac is an afterthought (or sub in a piece of defining work of any great artist and their follow up which pretty much tread the same ground).

incidentally, one way BCC could avoid the problem of the pre-spoiled ending is to take the series beyond the events of breaking bad at some point. i personally think that's unlikely to happen.

btw, as i said, i like BCC and even love some parts of it. i'm going to continue on with it because even for what it is, it's good. i just think it could have been a more interesting show.
 
So you loved the first show so much you watched it three times, but now the new show is the same as the old show, so you are abandoning it after one season? Makes sense, I suppose.

Not really sure how thats relevant.

Wouldnt that be like saying you have seen Speed time and time again, but when you watched Speed 2, you turned it off halfway through.

Or you enjoyed Hangover 1, but Hangover 2 and 3 were unbearable.
 
Not really sure how thats relevant.

Wouldnt that be like saying you have seen Speed time and time again, but when you watched Speed 2, you turned it off halfway through.

Or you enjoyed Hangover 1, but Hangover 2 and 3 were unbearable.

fuck the speed example is much better than my radiohead analogy. alternatively, die hard/die hard 2.

for the record all the hangovers are cinematic abortions.
 
If Speed was my favorite movie, and I watched it repeatedly, and then I got frustrated with Speed 2 because it was the same movie, then yes that would be a good analogy.
 
looks like the season 6 premiere date has been set (maybe for a while now?) - october 11. no word on which episode the below photo comes from...

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Just came across this on my local Craigslist, $1500. I would think you could probably sell this on eBay and some deep-pocketed fanatic of the show would drop way more than that on it.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/vgm/5114962451.html

One of a Kind Walking Dead Arcade Entertainment Center

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I'd stick that in the bedroom, to get me in the mood for sexy time.

Lots of appendages - might even move it to the bed to get properly freakay
 
so Fear the Walking Dead, the prequel, premieres this sunday. i can't say i'm excited necessarily, but i'll be watching. the AV club gave it a kind of middling review, but hey, kim dickens amirite? still, perhaps the all time worst tv series title.

 
I'm definitely watching. Currently on a Deadwood marathon (about 4 episodes left, this was an awesome show) and I heard the actress who played Joanie Stubbs was going to be one of the leads.
 

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