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Things That Are Bullsh*t (13 Viewers)

abby99 said:
What are the Dutch roads like? Part of my commute is a 5+ mile stretch of two-lane road (one lane in each direction) that is very curvy and hilly with no passing permitted. The speed limit is 30 (normal speed is 35), and the bikers do about half that. There is NOTHING worse than getting stuck behind a pack of 30 bicyclists riding two abreast and enough oncoming traffic and blind roadway that you could barely two bicyclists much less 30. Even thinking about this increases my blood pressure.
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The Dutch have more bike paths than roads. The paths are often separated from the motorways. The country invested in these paths. Both motorists and cyclists follow the rules. If you hit a biker, there is a good chance your driver's license is in jeopardy. They have a saying in Holland, "The bike is always right."

Cyclists who break the laws or just ride in dumb places (such as the road you mention, Abby) at times when people are getting to work may not be breaking the laws but they are supreme idiots.

Let me ask you bike haters out there. If there were segregated paths in your community and you had a choice between a 20 minute ride or a one hour drive in traffic, which would you choose?

Come on my Dutch brothers! Help me out. My gas guzzling compatriots are coming after me!

Jack. I'm a US citizen and lived there for 40 years. I ain't no Saudi!
 
slisk250 said:
I'm lucky to be here after a cement truck driver tried to kill me on a lonely desert road east of PHX. Couldn't get the plate and the impact crushed my phone.
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"This place is getting dangerous. I gotta get out of here"

*googles 'jobs in saudi arabia'*
 
Naaa, you are safe in your vehicle.

I'm a teacher so I'll give a lesson. All jokes aside, imagine what the urban and suburban areas in the United States would be likw if they were developed as the Dutch did after the 1973 oil embargo. Not all areas have the best topography for cycling like Holland does but there are plenty that do. Think about all the the other benefits to our society that Americans would be enjoying today? I miss my days living in Holland, one of the very best places on the planet to live unless you hate rain.

Here is your lesson for the day - http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23587916 :D
 
Population density in The Netherlands - 1070/square mile
Population density in USA - 85/square mile

Any alternative option to driving makes much more sense in the Netherlands.
 
kirchhausen said:
Population density in The Netherlands - 1070/square mile
Population density in USA - 85/square mile

Any alternative option to driving makes much more sense in the Netherlands.
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What is the density of Chicago, NYC, Philly, Boston, LA, PHX, Dallas, etc.? You can't use a stat like that when we have huge chunks of land that nobody lives. It's apples and oranges. Every urban area with somewhat flat roads would be far better off in terms of congestion.
 
Interesting article, @slisk250. Totally the opposite of what it's like around here.

"They" installed bike lanes along one stretch that used to be four lanes. Now it's two with a third center lane for turning (which few people seem to know how to use) and a bike lane to the right of the driving lane. The bike lanes are relatively narrow, I would guess about 2.5 feet, and that space is where one finds sewer grates, piles of landscaping debris, and trash. Consequently, bicyclists frequently swerve into traffic. Having a bike lane doesn't help much when they ride two and three abreast.

Another two-lane stretch has bike images painted on the right side of the driving lane, but the lane is not wide enough for a bike and a car. It's more of a suggestion that bicyclists stay to the right, again in the area where riders need to dodge sewer grates and debris. That stretch is also peppered with "Share the Road" signs, which are LOL. I'm fine with single bicyclists -- it's the packs that drive me nuts.

In downtown Chicago I saw bike lanes between the driving lane and the curbside parking area. In downtown Evanston I saw bike lanes next to the curb, and parking spaces between the bike lane and the driving lane. I wonder which is safer.

It seems that most of the US is vehicle-friendly and bicycle-hostile. Many areas make no provisions at all for pedestrians, either. We are definitely a car-centric society, and nobody is going to tell us that we can't drive our vehicles where and when we want. (Remind you of anything? ;))
 
How nations solve the gas crunch:

Netherlands: Build bike lanes everywhere.

USA: Invest money and troops into development of oil producing countries friendly to "the west". Become enemies of those countries' enemies. Get involved in wars the enemies. Give money to former enemies to help them rebuild, becoming enemies with former allies. Repeat cycle. Send Slisk over to help teach so the next generation does not think that we're not the bad guys. Slisk absence means he does not develop the same hatred toward cyclists.

Somehow, the bike thing seems cheaper.
 
Next someone will say that the weather is bad for cycling in (insert place). The Dutch have another saying. There is no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothes.

Cycling raingear that leaks. Total bullshit!
 
slisk250 said:
The Dutch have more bike paths than roads. The paths are often separated from the motorways. The country invested in these paths. Both motorists and cyclists follow the rules. If you hit a biker, there is a good chance your driver's license is in jeopardy. They have a saying in Holland, "The bike is always right."

Cyclists who break the laws or just ride in dumb places (such as the road you mention, Abby) at times when people are getting to work may not be breaking the laws but they are supreme idiots.

Let me ask you bike haters out there. If there were segregated paths in your community and you had a choice between a 20 minute ride or a one hour drive in traffic, which would you choose?

Come on my Dutch brothers! Help me out. My gas guzzling compatriots are coming after me!

Jack. I'm a US citizen and lived there for 40 years. I ain't no Saudi!
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My choices are a 4 minute commute by car, a 15 minute commute by bike, or work from home.

I chose to work from home.

You know what's bullshit? Commuting.
 
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When you ask your wife if she mailed that letter you gave her last week and all you get is that (oh shit) blank stare.
 
jbutler said:
Men's underwear with no fly. WTF.
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Seriously!! I got some for Christmas (Champion brand) and wore them before realizing there was no slit. Threw them right out after an awkward moment at the urinal.
 
Toby said:
There's a private thread for political discussions?
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Yup, you have to sign up to see it and posts in there don't count towards your post count, not sure about "likes", also need to have a little time and posts under your belt before members can access it, it's not much though, I think it was thirty days on the site and about that many posts as well. I would assume that would be to make it harder for pure troll accounts to stir things up with a new user name.

I have a feeling the actual political substance isn't the problem, it's how people think they can treat other people from behind the safety of their monitors, if things could remain civil there would have been no change.

It's definitely not bullshit and as bg said it's a good thing for the site, a SHIT ton of people are thankful the mess was cleaned up.



Edit to add: @Toby , if you are interested in the hidden threads here is the post that explains it.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/politics-on-pokerchipforum.17578/
 
12thMan said:
Yup, you have to sign up to see it and posts in there don't count towards your post count, not sure about "likes", also need to have a little time and posts under your belt before members can access it, it's not much though, I think it was thirty days on the site and about that many posts as well. I would assume that would be to make it harder for pure troll accounts to stir things up with a new user name.

I have a feeling the actual political substance isn't the problem, it's how people think they can treat other people from behind the safety of their monitors, if things could remain civil there would have been no change.

It's definitely not bullshit and as bg said it's a good thing for the site, a SHIT ton of people are thankful the mess was cleaned up.



Edit to add: @Toby , if you are interested in the hidden threads here is the post that explains it.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/politics-on-pokerchipforum.17578/
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Ah right - thanks. I missed that one too!
 

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