Things That Are Bullsh*t (10 Viewers)

[upNdown]

The $20 chip is bullshit.
When I first got into PCF and discovered $20 chips, I thought they were really cool because they were different. But different isn’t necessarily good.
There’s nothing wrong with a $20 chip if you and your players like it. A $25 is slightly more efficient because a rack puts an extra $500 in your bank, compared to a rack of $20s, but that’s no big deal. Do what you like.

The bullshit of the $20 chip is the fallacy that it’s somehow better for buyins and cashouts, since there’s a twenty dollar bill but no twenty-five dollar bill. NOBODY IS MATCHING BILL FOR CHIP DURING BUYINS OR CASHOUTS! But if you want to think about it in those terms A) when people rebuy, they’re probably doing it with a $100 bill as often as not, and B) most of us are giving them a stack of reds no matter what bill(s) they hand you! You can rationalize it a hundred different ways on either side of the argument, but the bottom line is that there is zero advantage to a $20 chip.
Boom roasted.

 

[doublebooyah85]

The $20 chip is bullshit.
When I first got into PCF and discovered $20 chips, I thought they were really cool because they were different. But different isn’t necessarily good.
There’s nothing wrong with a $20 chip if you and your players like it. A $25 is slightly more efficient because a rack puts an extra $500 in your bank, compared to a rack of $20s, but that’s no big deal. Do what you like.

The bullshit of the $20 chip is the fallacy that it’s somehow better for buyins and cashouts, since there’s a twenty dollar bill but no twenty-five dollar bill. NOBODY IS MATCHING BILL FOR CHIP DURING BUYINS OR CASHOUTS! But if you want to think about it in those terms A) when people rebuy, they’re probably doing it with a $100 bill as often as not, and B) most of us are giving them a stack of reds no matter what bill(s) they hand you! You can rationalize it a hundred different ways on either side of the argument, but the bottom line is that there is zero advantage to a $20 chip.
Boom roasted.

Want to sell your $20 dunes?

 

[upNdown]

Want to sell your $20 dunes?

Hahaha. No. It was love at first sight. And like I said, there’s nothing inherently wrong with them; there’s just no advantage to them. (Aside from lime!)

 

[Eriks]

The $20 chip is bullshit.
When I first got into PCF and discovered $20 chips, I thought they were really cool because they were different. But different isn’t necessarily good.
There’s nothing wrong with a $20 chip if you and your players like it. A $25 is slightly more efficient because a rack puts an extra $500 in your bank, compared to a rack of $20s, but that’s no big deal. Do what you like.

The bullshit of the $20 chip is the fallacy that it’s somehow better for buyins and cashouts, since there’s a twenty dollar bill but no twenty-five dollar bill. NOBODY IS MATCHING BILL FOR CHIP DURING BUYINS OR CASHOUTS! But if you want to think about it in those terms A) when people rebuy, they’re probably doing it with a $100 bill as often as not, and B) most of us are giving them a stack of reds no matter what bill(s) they hand you! You can rationalize it a hundred different ways on either side of the argument, but the bottom line is that there is zero advantage to a $20 chip.
Boom roasted.

Very true. I made my CPCs with a 20-chip for some dumb reason. Figured it wouldn’t make a difference although I’m used to playing with 25s. I was so wrong

 

[cpac54]

Hahaha. No. It was love at first sight. And like I said, there’s nothing wrong with them; there’s just no advantage to them. (Aside from lime!)

Not only do I love $20 chips, I love green $20 chips! #ComeAtMeBro

 

[Eriks]

Not only do I love $20 chips, I love green $20 chips! #ComeAtMeBro

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Well, they certainly are pretty!

 

[BGinGA]

there’s nothing inherently wrong with them; there’s just no advantage to them.

You, sir, are delusional and incorrect.

The advantage of $20 chips over using only $25 chips -- to chippers -- is twofold, and clearly indisputable:

1. having $20 chips in addition to $25 chips creates more different denomination chips/designs in the chip universe

2. when $20 chips are used (instead of $25 chips), a larger volume/number of chips will be in play as a result

In summary, both are different versions of the 'moar chipes' mantra. You're welcome.

 

[doublebooyah85]

You, sir, are delusional and incorrect.

The advantage of $20 chips over using only $25 chips -- to chippers -- is twofold, and clearly indisputable:

1. having $20 chips in addition to $25 chips creates more different denomination chips/designs in the chip universe

2. when $20 chips are used (instead of $25 chips), a larger volume/number of chips will be in play as a result

In summary, both are different versions of the 'more chipes' mantra. You're welcome.

I thought this as well, specially option 2, but my players and including myself kept making brain farts / mistakes w the $20s I had to relabel.

 

[upNdown]

You, sir, are delusional and incorrect.

The advantage of $20 chips over using only $25 chips -- to chippers -- is twofold, and clearly indisputable:

1. having $20 chips in addition to $25 chips creates more different denomination chips/designs in the chip universe

2. when $20 chips are used (instead of $25 chips), a larger volume/number of chips will be in play as a result

In summary, both are different versions of the 'moar chipes' mantra. You're welcome.

Who am I to argue with six of one, half dozen of the other? Especially when most people love moar eggs!

 

[BGinGA]

I thought this as well, specially option 2, but my players and including myself kept making brain farts / mistakes w the $20s I had to relabel.

Lol, that's a people-problem, not a chip-problem.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Lol, that's a people-problem, not a chip-problem.

Correct it was a problem lol

 

[ekricket]

Who am I to argue with six of one, half dozen of the other? Especially when most people love moar eggs!

A compromise would be a chip with $25 on one side and $20 on the other, and you just tell everyone at the start if the night which side is active.

 

[BigJackJones]

A compromise would be a chip with $25 on one side and $20 on the other, and you just tell everyone at the start if the night which side is active.

 

[Poker Zombie]

but the bottom line is that there is zero advantage to a $20 chip.

Advantages of the $20:

• Limit, using $1 chips (2-4, 3-6). The $20 can be easily exchanged for a barrel.
• Moar chips per $100
• When your buy-ins/rebuys are under $100

 

[upNdown]

When your buy-ins/rebuys are under $100

You mean like $50?

 

[slisk250]

Fuck Core. Going to hotel. No water without a well pump running. Fuck Core.

 

[slisk250]

The $20 chip is bullshit.
When I first got into PCF and discovered $20 chips, I thought they were really cool because they were different. But different isn’t necessarily good.
There’s nothing wrong with a $20 chip if you and your players like it. A $25 is slightly more efficient because a rack puts an extra $500 in your bank, compared to a rack of $20s, but that’s no big deal. Do what you like.

The bullshit of the $20 chip is the fallacy that it’s somehow better for buyins and cashouts, since there’s a twenty dollar bill but no twenty-five dollar bill. NOBODY IS MATCHING BILL FOR CHIP DURING BUYINS OR CASHOUTS! But if you want to think about it in those terms A) when people rebuy, they’re probably doing it with a $100 bill as often as not, and B) most of us are giving them a stack of reds no matter what bill(s) they hand you! You can rationalize it a hundred different ways on either side of the argument, but the bottom line is that there is zero advantage to a $20 chip.
Boom roasted.

Necessary for big chip in a $1 limit set. Otherwise they are bullshit

 

[Poker Zombie]

You mean like $50?

You're just asking people to use you to get rid of their $50 bills if you have a $50 buy-in.

 

[jr8719]

Murdering leaded casino THCs with shaped inlays. I’m not in the market and nor will I be, but come on, please get some NAGB chips for your stupid relabels. You’re ”gonna go a different direction” anyway in six months

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Wouldn't be a problem if NAGB chips were actually cheaper than leaded casino THCs with shaped inlays.

Not shaped inlay, but ask me if I went in a different direction six months after murder?

Answer: Yes — yes I did.

 

[Eriks]

Wouldn't be a problem if NAGB chips were actually cheaper than leaded casino THCs with shaped inlays.

Not shaped inlay, but ask me if I went in a different direction six months after murder?

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Answer: Yes — yes I did.

Then the sign’s for you . Although I don’t really think chips with beaver inlays qualify as a especially worth to preserve. What was the bear claw? Can’t place it

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

The $20 chip is bullshit.
When I first got into PCF and discovered $20 chips, I thought they were really cool because they were different. But different isn’t necessarily good.
There’s nothing wrong with a $20 chip if you and your players like it. A $25 is slightly more efficient because a rack puts an extra $500 in your bank, compared to a rack of $20s, but that’s no big deal. Do what you like.

The bullshit of the $20 chip is the fallacy that it’s somehow better for buyins and cashouts, since there’s a twenty dollar bill but no twenty-five dollar bill. NOBODY IS MATCHING BILL FOR CHIP DURING BUYINS OR CASHOUTS! But if you want to think about it in those terms A) when people rebuy, they’re probably doing it with a $100 bill as often as not, and B) most of us are giving them a stack of reds no matter what bill(s) they hand you! You can rationalize it a hundred different ways on either side of the argument, but the bottom line is that there is zero advantage to a $20 chip.
Boom roasted.

Except that there is.

My game runs $0.25/0.50, $60 buy in and almost all top-ups and rebuys are in $20 bills. I satisfy those rebuys with $5s until they are gone. Then let's say a guy wants to top up or rebuy and hands me $40 or $60 bucks. I'm all out of $5s so if I don't have $20s, I've got to get out 3-4 $25s and buy $5 chips from one, or maybe even two big stacks in order to satisfy the rebuy. Taking time away from the game for 2-3 different transactions instead of just one. With $20s, I hand him the same number chips as he gives me bills, and we're back to the game. Significantly more efficient.

 

[Jacks]

This chip apparently not being available for purchase supposedly

 

[BonScot]

The eclipse viewed from Scotland…

 

[jr8719]

Then the sign’s for you . Although I don’t really think chips with beaver inlays qualify as a especially worth to preserve. What was the bear claw? Can’t place it

The bearclaw was Casablanca, and the yellow chip VLV. Oh, and don't you DARE badmouth the Beavers like that again!!!

 

[drdr]

Except that there is.

My game runs $0.25/0.50, $60 buy in and almost all top-ups and rebuys are in $20 bills. I satisfy those rebuys with $5s until they are gone. Then let's say a guy wants to top up or rebuy and hands me $40 or $60 bucks. I'm all out of $5s so if I don't have $20s, I've got to get out 3-4 $25s and buy $5 chips from one, or maybe even two big stacks in order to satisfy the rebuy. Taking time away from the game for 2-3 different transactions instead of just one. With $20s, I hand him the same number chips as he gives me bills, and we're back to the game. Significantly more efficient.

Sounds like you just need more $5s : )

 

[LowerBama1714]

Exactly. Wait for them to get into the work world, where merit ranks about #60 on the list.

The work world is a game…just like poker. You take calculated risks, bluff, bet, go allin, etc…the nits general don’t succeed.

You have to play the game as it presents itself in front of you…characters at the table are constantly changing and evolving. You have to adjust constantly.

It can be fun if you can avoid going on tilt and stay focused.

 

[w00zie]

The bearclaw was Casablanca

 

[drdr]

The work world is a game…just like poker. You take calculated risks, bluff, bet, go allin, etc…the nits general don’t succeed.

You have to play the game as it presents itself in front of you…characters at the table are constantly changing and evolving. You have to adjust constantly.

It can be fun if you can avoid going on tilt and stay focused.

Gonna lose some of the hands, though. Can't always win.

 

[Taghkanic]

, but the bottom line is that there is zero advantage to a $20 chip.
Boom roasted.

Mostly agree with your rant, but I can think of one (relatively) rare reason to have $20s.

If you have a large set of one type of chip (say, THCs) intended for both cash and tourneys, a $20 could be used for cash and a T25 for the tourney.

But then you could just make two different 25s and achieve the same thing I guess.

Also if the cash game needs a $100 chip, then you need two different 100s. Which is why I recommend making $50 chips instead.

***KIDDING, KIDDING, JEEZ LOUISE ***

 

[LowerBama1714]

Gonna lose some of the hands, though. Can't always win.

True…it’s all about the long game.