THIS is a TRK chip (3 Viewers)

[Sprouty]

@ChipGuide

Does anyone actually view that dinosaur of a website.

I do when I don't have a picture of the chip I'm trying to sell.

 

[mipevi]

@ChipGuide while we’re on the subject you should remove this entry from your site, the image was cropped from my original photo without consent. Thanks.

So for reference this is what’s shown on @ChipGuide for Casino de Namur (Belgium):

And below is my original photo that I posted on chiptalk and later on here as well...

 

[ChipGuide]

So they are not YOUR pictures? You take others pictures and appropriate them for your own use? This isn’t your original art? Sounds like you are the one doing copyright infringement and worse, minutely altering original works and then claiming them as your own? Sketchy.

The ChipGuide is a project of the chip collecting community. Collectors submit their images to the ChipGuide through the submission form or in bulk directly to an administrator. Collectors own the images as submitted. The ChipGuide owns the edited images. Every image is edited: rotated, cropped, lighting corrected, size adjusted if it is too large, converted to JPG if in another format, distortion removed, and EXIF information is added.

 

[RocAFella1]

So for reference this is what’s shown on @ChipGuide for Casino de Namur (Belgium):

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And below is my original photo that I posted on chiptalk and later on here as well...

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Image courtesy of the @mipevi

 

[ChipGuide]

I do when I don't have a picture of the chip I'm trying to sell.

When you are selling something you should use a picture of the actual item being sold, so the buyer can see the condition of the item they are buying, not a stock photo. This is exactly why we don't allow ChipGuide images to be used for commercial purposes.

 

[Perthmike]

So for reference this is what’s shown on @ChipGuide for Casino de Namur (Belgium):

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And below is my original photo that I posted on chiptalk and later on here as well...

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@ChipGuide what tomfoolery is this. Surely you wouldnt use images without permission. Outrageous

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

 

[ChipGuide]

So for reference this is what’s shown on @ChipGuide for Casino de Namur (Belgium):

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And below is my original photo that I posted on chiptalk and later on here as well...

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If someone appropriated your image, I can offer two options: 1) I will change the name of the submitter to you, or 2) I can remove the image. Which do you prefer?

 

[Josh Kifer]

 

[ChipGuide]

@ChipGuide what tomfoolery is this. Surely you wouldnt use images without permission. Outrageous

When an image is submitted to the ChipGuide, the submitter has to confirm that the image is theirs or that they have permission of the owner to submit the image for them. If they do not confirm, then they cannot submit the image.

 

[MatB]

Can someone explain it in simple terms ( very simple please) how a for profit website
can take someone’s photos. Whether submitted or not
Alter them slightly
Then claim copyright?

Thanks.

I’ll take my answer off the air.

 

[Hornet]

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Photo courtesy of @Josh Kifer … I get it now!!!

 

[RocAFella1]

So if I edit an image taken from the ChipGuide I own that image now right?

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Can someone explain it in simple terms ( very simple please) how a for profit website
can take someone’s photos. Whether submitted or not
Alter them slightly
Then claim copyright?

Thanks.

I’ll take my answer off the air.

The process of rotating and cropping is invaluable to this community and grants intellectual property claims to the for profit website. Long may they reign.

 

[Hornet]

Can someone explain it in simple terms ( very simple please) how a for profit website
can take someone’s photos. Whether submitted or not
Alter them slightly
Then claim copyright?

Thanks.

I’ll take my answer off the air.

Short answer is they don’t have lawyers or they have bad ones.

 

[ChipGuide]

The ChipGuide Submission form:

 

[mipevi]

If someone appropriated your image, I can offer two options: 1) I will change the name of the submitter to you, or 2) I can remove the image. Which do you prefer?

I’d prefer for it to be removed, thanks.

 

[RocAFella1]

Image courtesy of the @RocAFella1

 

[MatB]

My only hope is that with the multitude of lawyers on this forum
(By my calculations the new ratio is about 2 out of every 5 unique members here)
That we don’t see Tommy get extorted for hosting a collectors website.

 

[ChipGuide]

The process of rotating and cropping is invaluable to this community and grants intellectual property claims to the for profit website. Long may they reign.

The ChipGuide is not for profit. We do not sell anything. We are part of the Casino Collectibles Association, a not-for-profit 501(c)(3) educational organization.

 

[ChipGuide]

So if I edit an image taken from the ChipGuide I own that image now right?

First you need permission to use the image.

 

[Sprouty]

It's mine now

 

[RocAFella1]

First you need permission to use the image.

Does the ChipGuide have permission to use every image that's been submitted?

 

[ekricket]

The ChipGuide is a project of the chip collecting community. Collectors submit their images to the ChipGuide through the submission form or in bulk directly to an administrator. Collectors own the images as submitted. The ChipGuide owns the edited images. Every image is edited: rotated, cropped, lighting corrected, size adjusted if it is too large, converted to JPG if in another format, distortion removed, and EXIF information is added.

Ahh, so if we resize any images you have and crop them slightly they are no longer yours, but ours. Great tip!

You really should make sure those are the exact same images and sizes and meta data before you start throwing baseless and inflammatory accusations around. Sounds like any change at all voids any claim you may have.

 

[warma]

No doubt it a loved and used site, save for the copyright nonsense.

https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html

I’m not seeing content given for the ChipGuide to copyright derivative work.

http://chipguide.themogh.org/cg_submission2.php

If I’m wrong, educate me. But until that’s done, ChipGuide claiming copyright is nonsense.

 

[ekricket]

Does the ChipGuide have permission to use every image that's been submitted?

Looks like they have a form, and that releases them from any liability of checking or validating anyone’s claim. As long as they have a filled out form, real owner or not, then they are invulnerable to any lawsuits. That’s a bold strategy.

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

My only hope is that with the multitude of lawyers on this forum

This explains the prices on some of these chips, maron!

 

[ekricket]

Can someone explain it in simple terms ( very simple please) how a for profit website
can take someone’s photos. Whether submitted or not
Alter them slightly
Then claim copyright?

Thanks.

I’ll take my answer off the air.

What is sounds like us that you could clone Chip’s website, then change a few words in each page and make the images larger, and then you can be the owner of a New Chip’s Guide site. This internet copyright stuff is great.

 

[Josh Kifer]

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It's mine now

You sonofabitch....

I now own this. Change your profile pic. Or I'll get my lawyer on you.

 

[Saoliver]

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Image courtesy of Audrey’s cuteness.