Tourney To use or not to use, a dealer button (2 Viewers)

[ChaosRock]

Dealer button is a must have. A game without it, to me, is barely playable.

And personal opinion only, not intended to ruffle any feathers: Dealer button is a larger, white, low-friction plastic circle with "DEALER" printed/etched on both sides, with an allowance for a possible logo. Anything else is only halfway there.

 

[Josh Kifer]

Where can I get a Cactus Pete DB? @Josh Kifer

@justincarothers has them as an option, and I think @Himewad had them as a option too. I can check to see if I have any left.

 

[divinerites]

We don't run into that issue because pretty much everybody at our table knows when you're next to deal, it can wait until after your deal.

May be you have different players in different game ?

 

[Labrat]

May be you have different players in different game ?

Well....yeah.

 

[louBdub]

You probably grill your tube steaks.

I like my beef dicks rolled or flamed up good and crispy like.

 

[TheYeti]

@me too
After the hand i collect the cards, put the DB on top, and pass it to the player left to me.
As simple as that.

You pass an un-shuffled deck to the next dealer?

 

[upNdown]

You pass an un-shuffled deck to the next dealer?

yeah we should probably turn this into a shuffle ahead/shuffle behind debate. Since some folks are so certain exactly how a poker game should operate, I’m sure they’ll be glad to enliven the rest of us.

 

[TheYeti]

yeah we should probably turn this into a shuffle ahead/shuffle behind debate. Since some folks are so certain exactly how a poker game should operate, I’m sure they’ll be glad to enliven the rest of us.

Sorry to derail, but not shuffle ahead/behind debating here, it's seemingly no shuffle for the new dealer. Just found it curious is all.

 

[perfectjawnz]

Quite often I play short-handed with my friends. If there are 5 players or less, and if all of them are decently experienced and actively playing (we are there to play, not to shoot the shit or watch sports or whatever), then usually we won't use a button. If any of those 3 conditions are not met, button is required.

 

[4SUMERZ]

We use a dealer button, although some do not move it as required. I remind them that the dealer button is very useful when self dealing, as the button can be used as a card capper to prevent discards from spoiling the dealers hole cards.

 

[SwissChip]

You pass an un-shuffled deck to the next dealer?

Actually yes - i shuffled before i dealt out.
We use only 1 deck in cash game, no hurry…

 

[glynn]

Actually yes - i shuffled before i dealt out.
We use only 1 deck in cash game, no hurry…

Thread should be smooth sailing from here.

 

[SwissChip]

Aîe!
Self dealt home games don‘t really need a dealer button, if all players follow the game.
The guy to your left deal the next hand.

But i found out a DB matching the set is quite cool! It‘s a helper not an essential piece like cards & chips.
I voted yes, but the game could continue without a DB.
The guy with the most cards is the dealer.

 

[Huskerchipper]

We play tournaments and only use a dealer button when we get down to 3-4 players. Most of us have been playing together for 20 years and we only use one deck per table. I could see it being useful when using 2 decks.

 

[TheBigShow]

This thread is fascinating. Truly. First of all the drama is funny. Second I really never would have imagined that people don’t like using a dealer chip. I think it’s just a no brainer QoL thing at the table.

Third. You’re all wrong. Dealer, BB and SB button gang rise up.

In all seriousness it’s great having all three. Blind buttons can sit on top of blinds and you rarely forget to move the buttons when 4 people (3 buttons and next in line) are responsible versus 2 (current dealer and next dealer).

 

[FestiveKnight]

This thread is fascinating. Truly. First of all the drama is funny. Second I really never would have imagined that people don’t like using a dealer chip. I think it’s just a no brainer QoL thing at the table.

Third. You’re all wrong. Dealer, BB and SB button gang rise up.

In all seriousness it’s great having all three. Blind buttons can sit on top of blinds and you rarely forget to move the buttons when 4 people (3 buttons and next in line) are responsible versus 2 (current dealer and next dealer).

You had me in the beginning there. DB is a must, but blind buttons? If you need blind buttons then we really need to convert this thread to a discussion about stupid players.

 

[TheBigShow]

You had me in the beginning there. DB is a must, but blind buttons? If you need blind buttons then we really need to convert this thread to a discussion about stupid players.

Defintely don’t need them. I think their main use is helping everyone remember to move the damn things in the first place since there’s more for people to see and remember. Especially when members of your table smoke and drink lol.

 

[Santa123]

Next thread : To use or not to use? Chips

 

[TheBigShow]

Next thread : To use or not to use? Chips

Pringles or Jolly Ranchers only. Absolutely stunning set.

 

[drdr]

This thread is fascinating. Truly. First of all the drama is funny. Second I really never would have imagined that people don’t like using a dealer chip. I think it’s just a no brainer QoL thing at the table.

Third. You’re all wrong. Dealer, BB and SB button gang rise up.

In all seriousness it’s great having all three. Blind buttons can sit on top of blinds and you rarely forget to move the buttons when 4 people (3 buttons and next in line) are responsible versus 2 (current dealer and next dealer).

I've never played a game, casino or home, that uses those blind buttons in that way. Only time I've seen blind buttons used were in casino cash games where people missed posting blinds, dealer would place the buttons as a reminder to gather the missed blinds on the players return.

 

[TheYeti]

When I first started hosting almost 20 years ago, my first chip set came with dealer, bb and sb buttons. I thought "if they come with the set, everyone must be using them!". We used the blind buttons for exactly one game and everyone realized they were stupid. I still have them in a box somewhere.

 

[krafticus]

is it "NEEDED" .. nope, not in a self-dealt game. Follow the stub.
Will I ever have a game without one .. nope. Some people are adamant that it move; some could care less. Everyone always knows where the action is, and if they hesitate more than 8 nano-seconds in my game, the whole table is starring at them with "it's on you" comments.

I have a ton of buttons, and love them, so I will always have them on the table.

 

[krafticus]

I will add, when playing circus games in a self-dealt game, it is nice to have some sort of "button" or indicator on when the game changes. Sometimes that can get a tad confusing.

 

[SetToBean]

When I first started hosting almost 20 years ago, my first chip set came with dealer, bb and sb buttons. I thought "if they come with the set, everyone must be using them!". We used the blind buttons for exactly one game and everyone realized they were stupid. I still have them in a box somewhere.

I tried using them, then found that a person that doesn’t know when their turn to pay the blinds is coming up won’t be paying attention to blind buttons either. I still had to verbally remind certain players to post blinds all night. Eventually I stopped bothering and wouldn’t deal until the players corrected themselves since they clearly weren’t learning.

Better just to train people correctly I guess.

 

[CincinattiKiddo]

use

 

[Defarse]

When we played our first game in 2003 we used blind buttons for probably an orbit and realized how incredibly stupid that was and cumbersome. And dealer button only when there is a dedicated dealer. Self dealt game with one deck..........no button.

 

[detroitdad]

Self dealt game with one deck..........no button.

Why only one deck? We have always used two and it is way more efficient. I have to have a DB, even in self dealt games. I don't know what to do with the burn cards without a DB.

 

[mdt11]

Why only one deck? We have always used two and it is way more efficient. I have to have a DB, even in self dealt games. I don't know what to do with the burn cards without a DB.

Ok now I’m intrigued… do you put the burn cards under the DB?

 

[Defarse]

Why only one deck? We have always used two and it is way more efficient. I have to have a DB, even in self dealt games. I don't know what to do with the burn cards without a DB.

We never thought of using a second deck. Might have to try this. What's the process? Both decks get shuffled at the same time and then play two hands? Who shuffles each deck?

 

[krafticus]

We never thought of using a second deck. Might have to try this. What's the process? Both decks get shuffled at the same time and then play two hands? Who shuffles each deck?

ahh ... there's a thread on this .. shuffle ahead (stupid), and shuffle behind (what normal, smart people so).

If you start with the 1st hand, someone shuffles both decks, and the person on your right cuts one deck. You deal. after the hand, you cut the other deck, and pass it to the player on your left. They now deal. You clean up the cards you just dealt, and shuffle them. You pass them to the person on your left, who cuts them, and hands them to the player on their left, and they deal. The previous dealer always pulls the cards they dealt, shuffles, and then passes to cut. -- This is shuffle behind.

You could shuffle ahead, but as the person to the left of the dealer is trying to pull in all of the cards, the dealer is waiting for you to get out of the way, get all the cards, and then deal around your slow ass. Inevitably, you'll pitch the 1st card into the person scooping the cards, and have a mis-deal, and have to do it again. It's just dumb, and slow, and causes too much confusion. If you do get it right, then the person who is the next dealer shuffles, but passes them back to the previous dealer who needs to cut ... but they just dealt and aren't paying attention to anything, and then they just sit there, waiting for a nice cut, to pass back. ultimately, nobody knows who did what with the cards, and its just ... well --- that's just stupid