What do you think about this guy changing the offer? (5 Viewers)

Here’s the conversation with a few logistical messages deleted for brevity…. Definitely frustrating but you live and learn. I wouldn’t do the deal today, but I was new and excited about buying my first real casino set
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“Let me know what’s the most you are willing to spend”

That reminds me of my nephew when he was younger. Total mashed potato freak. A boy after my own heart.
When we’d have dinner and his mom was putting his portions on his plate he’d ask “can I have as much mashed potato’s as you'll let me have?”
 
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Nonsensical ramblings by morons.

Basically a way to turn words and letters to numbers that then somehow predict the future.

Total insanity, even the flat earth people make fun of them.
I kind of hate that I missed it! Sounds like a good way to spend an evening…
 
Basically a way to turn words and letters to numbers that then somehow predict the future - after the fact.
FYP - lol

He posted several videos by the guru of gemantria and I got through about 30 minutes of one. Absolutely the most mind bogglingly ridiculous shit I’ve ever seen. The dude was literally showing how the code predicted what happened, after it already happened, as proof the code is real :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:.

Can you imagine a gemantria seminar :LOL: :laugh:. I think my head would quite actually explode.
 
Pretty certain this guy didn't have any $100 offer, but if he did and I'm that guy, I 1000% email the seller with a burner account, offer $150 and then ghost him so that A. He has to crawl back to me for the $100 offer and then I offer $50 last minute for being a dick or B. I tell him to GFY
 
I’m still wondering why people complain about getting ripped off when flippers and other bad faith acting community members don’t get called out in threads.

It’s almost like this has happened before. It’s a fucking head scratcher, this.
I've transacted a decent amount here and have managed to steer clear of this so far. But still relatively new - this info would be helpful to know.
 
Wow, I didn't know it was Bash Godzilla28 day this past weekend. LOL

For those that don't know the background, it's in reference to a WTT ad from 7/12/20

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/big-boy-43mm-trade-off-singles-barrels-racks.59140/

@ekricket you're still thinking about deals from 4+ years ago. I had to go back to look up what was said because I thought it was worked out between us three. Here is the detailed version which Kevin skipped some details and exaggerated others.

Note it was a a WTT ad and I even capitalized it on the above WTT ad on the 1st line. That means it's not a DIBS SALE!!

7/16/20 Kevin (ekricket) PMs about interest in GC $500 and $1000. He even states he has nothing to trade only dollars. I am talking with several other people by PM including @anstossfreak for a trade. It is taking some time as anstoss is in Germany.

7/17/20 I give Kevin total and he sends payment.

In between time I hear back from anstoss that he wants to do a trade with some THC Derby Gran. Now those of you that have been here awhile would know that I've been working on building a Derby Gran set for over a decade now. Derby Grans are crack to me but I know I've sold them to Kevin so I sent him this message thinking he may be understanding enough. Main messages shown to show timeline and agreement.

Jul 20, 2020

And any way you would let go of the 20 GC $500 and $1ks? Antoss from Germany needs them and willing to trade some chips. I'm all tapped out of these besides breaking up my set. LMK if you would forgo these and its fine if you dont want to let them go. I'll ship them out tomorrow. Just lmk either way so I can tell him.

Thanks,
Herman

Kevin sends me this message back:

Jul 20, 2020
Hey no problem giving them up. I was adding to mine some but I’m ok, just getting while the gettings good! But if someone needs them go ahead, not a big thing.

Jul 21, 2020
Thanks Kevin, I'll PM Antoss if he wants to do the trade and get back to you. Awesome that you'll do this for fellow chippers. :tup:

Wait a few days for the time zone differences from antoss to reply.

Jul 23, 2020
Ok, finally got answer back. I traded for some Gran Derby chips which I've been trying to build a set for a while. Thanks for doing this and your patience with us. I'll refund your money now.

Any other chips you looking for right now? I'll send some freebies with our next package going your way.

Thanks,
Herman

So money was sent back less than a week not 2 weeks. I know, I know I should've returned the money ASAP while we were working on the trade deal. That was my mistake but we all make mistakes. But as my above msg stated, I was totally willing to forgo the Derby Gran trade and asked if he really wanted the chips. So I was ready to go either way and gave him the choice. He gave me the OK to proceed with my anstoss deal so I did. End of story as far as I'm concerned. I don't think I'm the Nazi here.

@ekricket I thanked and apologized to you profusely by PM already. If you can't let go after 4 years, I'm never gonna be able to convince you otherwise. I am fine with that and we go our own ways. It's only little clay colored discs for God's sake!

For those that have jumped on the Bash a Godzilla weekend w/o all the information...I had some of you on my Asshat list already and that just confirmed it. New ones will be added to the list. Thanks for the info!

Sheesh, rough weekend for Godzilla28. But I did triple my buyin playing Derailment and other Circus games after busting out of our WSOP SitnGo. Cheers!
 
For those that have jumped on the Bash a Godzilla weekend w/o all the information...I had some of you on my Asshat list already and that just confirmed it. New ones will be added to the list. Thanks for the info!

Sheesh, rough weekend for Godzilla28. But I did triple my buyin playing Derailment and other Circus games after busting out of our WSOP SitnGo. Cheers!
Always two sides to a story. @anstossfreak is also a great person to deal with.

Cheers, and glad to hear about the run good!
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Still hoping for a transaction feedback section some day.

I've had somewhere north of 300 transactions here on PCF and can count on one hand how many members I'd rather not have another with.
Hoping I'm not on anybody else's list or atleast given the chance to make it right.

We all make mistakes, for sure I have.
It's how we respond to them that matters more than anything. Even bad sellers and buyers have lots of smooth transactions. Honestly, most of those mean nothing if they can't handle a rough transaction professionally.

Would be helpful to see the responses of these questionable transactions in public for the monetary safety of the group.
 
Wow, I didn't know it was Bash Godzilla28 day this past weekend. LOL

For those that don't know the background, it's in reference to a WTT ad from 7/12/20

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/big-boy-43mm-trade-off-singles-barrels-racks.59140/

@ekricket you're still thinking about deals from 4+ years ago. I had to go back to look up what was said because I thought it was worked out between us three. Here is the detailed version which Kevin skipped some details and exaggerated others.

Note it was a a WTT ad and I even capitalized it on the above WTT ad on the 1st line. That means it's not a DIBS SALE!!

7/16/20 Kevin (ekricket) PMs about interest in GC $500 and $1000. He even states he has nothing to trade only dollars. I am talking with several other people by PM including @anstossfreak for a trade. It is taking some time as anstoss is in Germany.

7/17/20 I give Kevin total and he sends payment.

In between time I hear back from anstoss that he wants to do a trade with some THC Derby Gran. Now those of you that have been here awhile would know that I've been working on building a Derby Gran set for over a decade now. Derby Grans are crack to me but I know I've sold them to Kevin so I sent him this message thinking he may be understanding enough. Main messages shown to show timeline and agreement.

Jul 20, 2020

And any way you would let go of the 20 GC $500 and $1ks? Antoss from Germany needs them and willing to trade some chips. I'm all tapped out of these besides breaking up my set. LMK if you would forgo these and its fine if you dont want to let them go. I'll ship them out tomorrow. Just lmk either way so I can tell him.

Thanks,
Herman

Kevin sends me this message back:

Jul 20, 2020
Hey no problem giving them up. I was adding to mine some but I’m ok, just getting while the gettings good! But if someone needs them go ahead, not a big thing.

Jul 21, 2020
Thanks Kevin, I'll PM Antoss if he wants to do the trade and get back to you. Awesome that you'll do this for fellow chippers. :tup:

Wait a few days for the time zone differences from antoss to reply.

Jul 23, 2020
Ok, finally got answer back. I traded for some Gran Derby chips which I've been trying to build a set for a while. Thanks for doing this and your patience with us. I'll refund your money now.

Any other chips you looking for right now? I'll send some freebies with our next package going your way.

Thanks,
Herman

So money was sent back less than a week not 2 weeks. I know, I know I should've returned the money ASAP while we were working on the trade deal. That was my mistake but we all make mistakes. But as my above msg stated, I was totally willing to forgo the Derby Gran trade and asked if he really wanted the chips. So I was ready to go either way and gave him the choice. He gave me the OK to proceed with my anstoss deal so I did. End of story as far as I'm concerned. I don't think I'm the Nazi here.

@ekricket I thanked and apologized to you profusely by PM already. If you can't let go after 4 years, I'm never gonna be able to convince you otherwise. I am fine with that and we go our own ways. It's only little clay colored discs for God's sake!

For those that have jumped on the Bash a Godzilla weekend w/o all the information...I had some of you on my Asshat list already and that just confirmed it. New ones will be added to the list. Thanks for the info!

Sheesh, rough weekend for Godzilla28. But I did triple my buyin playing Derailment and other Circus games after busting out of our WSOP SitnGo. Cheers!
Not how it was presented to me. You said @anstossfreak NEEDED these chips, but talking with him his desire was the same as mine, just adding on. When I learned your TRUE intentions, which was to trade for the chips YOU wanted, and not to help him out any more than you were helping me out, that is what the scammy part entered. I’m always willing to help someone out if they NEED it, but you were the needy one who lied and omitted your true intentions.

Now you continue to hide your deception and try to come off as the victim. Yes, it’s been 4 years, and have learned a lot about you and your scammy ways.

@anstossfreak knew that his need was no different than mine, but continued to talk with you and conduct a deal even after I contacted him letting him know I had already purchased the chips. Scum behavior.

All - read the threads. I tried to be nice and accommodating, but once I learned @Godzilla28 was just trying to make a better deal than he had already made it just stung and as a newer member then it was quite the letdown.

I think the feedback from others on top of my experience kinda shows the pattern with him. Yeah it’s been 4 years, but when people feel screwed over they NEVER forget.

So all these bashers are just making stuff up huh?
Once could be a misunderstanding
Twice could be just another misunderstanding
After three times it’s a repeatable pattern and pretty recognizable as chronic

Readers - believe what you want. Doesn’t matter to me, just be aware you’ve been warned.
 
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