Windwalker on Hustler Casino Live?!?!?!?!?!? (3 Viewers)

I think you’re kidding here but I think it’s better to say “mistakes were made” and learn from them then to try and spin a punt as advertising. Every one of us on this forum has made similar mistakes, maybe not of this size in real dollars but certainly in terms of BBs.

The idea of this setting up value is possible but not realistic. How does that go exactly? As an opponent contemplates calling a future all-in bet we made for value, should we remind them about this punt? “Reza, as you consider calling I invite you to recall my queen high bluff into double nutter butters”

Unless you think like a "Puller" you won't be able to understand his philosophy
 
The way I look at it is Krish is taking a shot against some of the best poker players out there, and maybe he realized he has to make some moves to try to win a big pit. It’s hard to outplay these guys so you just have to go for it when you see a spot to take down a big pot. You live by the sword and you die by the sword. This time it didn’t work.

But of course the way the action went, plus the small stack sizes remaining before the all in shove makes the move hard to pull off even against bluffable hands.
 
I think you’re kidding here but I think it’s better to say “mistakes were made” and learn from them then to try and spin a punt as advertising. Every one of us on this forum has made similar mistakes, maybe not of this size in real dollars but certainly in terms of BBs.

The idea of this setting up value is possible but not realistic. How does that go exactly? As an opponent contemplates calling a future all-in bet we made for value, should we remind them about this punt? “Reza, as you consider calling I invite you to recall my queen high bluff into double nutter butters”

I'm trying to find the silver lining in an otherwise dark cloud. I haven't reached this point on stream yet, so didn't see the A9 hand against Reza that was just before this one

But Krish is working on his game and has shown signs of improvement in other hands. As long as he sticks with it and continues to work on it, the value of this hand could easily be recouped in the future. And this hand will ensure he's invited back

I'm not saying it wasn't a mistake, just one that can be spun into a positive for the future
 
I'm trying to find the silver lining in an otherwise dark cloud. I haven't reached this point on stream yet, so didn't see the A9 hand against Reza that was just before this one

But Krish is working on his game and has shown signs of improvement in other hands. As long as he sticks with it and continues to work on it, the value of this hand could easily be recouped in the future. And this hand will ensure he's invited back

I'm not saying it wasn't a mistake, just one that can be spun into a positive for the future
I get that. Finding positives is important and mindset is paramount. I think that the loose calls we all want will come from having properly merged preflop ranges played aggressively, as opposed to one time events that are really just tilt blow ups. Conflating the two diminishes our ability to improve.

I think this is an important point because undisciplined LAGs (not saying that is what Krish is) are prone to justifying certain plays by claiming it will be advertising if it fails. It’s almost like the you tubers who justify plays “for content”. These kinds of things are cognitive dissonance.
 
At least everyone will be ready to pay off Krish in the future when he's got it
 
I do this a lot too when I have to go.

Oh man. When the rest of the forum makes a bad play it's for peanuts compared to this hand. And the moment isn't captured and hyped up into a giant train wreck video.

Isn't he friends with the owner and the producer of the show? This is like a big kick in the balls. As if the $200k loss wasn't bad enough.
 
He had a brain fart at the wrong moment. It Happens.
We all do it at different times at the table (and sometimes not just the brain)
The top pros are practiced at not doing it. That’s their job. Still happens but with much less frequency
 
Isn't he friends with the owner and the producer of the show? This is like a big kick in the balls. As if the $200k loss wasn't bad enough.

Yeah, seems like some people will do anything for clicks these days. I will say the "hype" video the other day was pretty funny, so maybe it was just a different producer or their social media guy just trying to do something similar. Not a classy move but I wouldn't weep if it happened to Armenian Mike or some of the other players, although those people have actually done things that would warrant some teasing.
 
Oh man. When the rest of the forum makes a bad play it's for peanuts compared to this hand. And the moment isn't captured and hyped up into a giant train wreck video.

Isn't he friends with the owner and the producer of the show? This is like a big kick in the balls. As if the $200k loss wasn't bad enough.
Yeah not a fan of this, but you know how it is - the internet needs clicks so everything gets clipped and circulated. We had a bad night but had a lot of good ones leading up to it.
 
What I want to know is what normal hands (not flopped nuts) Reza would have called with... like would he have called a 100k+ all-in from Krish with over cards? Middle pair top kicker? Under pair?
 
What I want to know is what normal hands (not flopped nuts) Reza would have called with... like would he have called a 100k+ all-in from Krish with over cards? Middle pair top kicker? Under pair?
When Reza cold 3-bet raises to $55k, he isn't folding for $80k more ever, unless he has a total bluff. And I don't think he is bluffing in this spot ever.
 
The beautiful thing about that play is now he has tons of action street credit. He can now invite the action players to his house and they will all come. He has the opportunity now to set up a fantastic line up which will put him in a position to make money long term. Invite Reza, lucky, Dylan, Julie and a few other action players and he will have a great game. Leave the good players/nits at the casino wondering where everyone is. Time to breakout the big boy set. Let’s gooooooo.
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The beautiful thing about that play is now he has tons of action street credit. He can now invite the action players to his house and they will all come. He has the opportunity now to set up a fantastic line up which will put him in a position to make money long term. Invite Reza, lucky, Dylan, Julie and a few other action players and he will have a great game. Leave the good players/nits at the casino wondering where everyone is. Time to breakout the big boy set. Let’s gooooooo.
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Don't forget Shane and his other cousin that have bled money while on stream. ATM's, those guys are.
 
It’s not that obvious that the play was bad in a high level game. In your game, in every game I’m in, no one cold 3-bet flop and then ends up folding so having a 4bet bluff range is suicide. In this game that may not be the case

It’d be interesting to see what a multi-way solvers picks to 4! this deep on that board. If it bluffs st any freq, and then if so which combos does it pick. Having the Q is nice. Not having a J or T is nice. So if you can bluff (not sure you can here, nuts are easy to have and it’s 4-ways) I think the best one is QQ..and then maybe Q8?!
 
It’s not that obvious that the play was bad in a high level game. In your game, in every game I’m in, no one cold 3-bet flop and then ends up folding so having a 4bet bluff range is suicide. In this game that may not be the case

It’d be interesting to see what a multi-way solvers picks to 4! this deep on that board. If it bluffs st any freq, and then if so which combos does it pick. Having the Q is nice. Not having a J or T is nice. So if you can bluff (not sure you can here, nuts are easy to have and it’s 4-ways) I think the best one is QQ..and then maybe Q8?!
If they were deeper, maybe. But do you really think there is fold equity in that spot. When Krish shoves, the pot is now something like $215k (even before Lucky calls). its only 80k more. Unless Reza has complete air he is calling in that spot. And why would you want him to fold air? You bet to get better hands to fold and worse hands to call.
 
If they were deeper, maybe. But do you really think there is fold equity in that spot. When Krish shoves, the pot is now something like $215k (even before Lucky calls). its only 80k more. Unless Reza has complete air he is calling in that spot. And why would you want him to fold air? You bet to get better hands to fold and worse hands to call.

Whats reza’s most likely bluff, JT? If he bluffs at all I think JT makes most sense. and it’s in a tough spot even with those pot odds
 
I think the shove was just the last part of a string of escalating errors made during the hand from the start. Just dug deeper and deeper into a rut as the hand progressed. The jam wasn't the only issue.

Flatting Reza's preflop raise with a 3 gap unsuited connector from 3B. Then calling Lucky's re-raise.
Leading the flop with a 1/3 pot bet into the 2 maniacs and with Tom Dwan.
And then instashoving.

The time to let the hand go was preflop facing Reza's raise.

What does one hope to flop with Q8o in EP with 2 maniacs and Tom Dwan involved?
I'm not saying just play AA/KK in this spot, but you gotta have a tighter range that doesn't include Q8o.
 
Just caught up on these posts this morning.

TBH, it was a solid brain fart, and a bad play. It’s hard to exactly remember what I was thinking in the moment, but I’m sure my brain justified the push in some way, or else I wouldn’t have done it.

A few contributing factors existed, but none really seem strong enough now to justify the move. But they were there, nonetheless:

- lucky had been raising with jack shit on several hands prior, and I had caught him on a couple
- Reza and I had played a similar hand 4 days ago, where he re-raised with J2 suited (his second favorite hand) and I had called, winning a large pot.

Either way, you live and you learn, and move on :-)
 
He has the opportunity now to set up a fantastic line up which will put him in a position to make money long term.
Not to speak on Krish's behalf, but I get the impression he's not playing to win money. He's just playing to win.

(... which you do by winning money, but you get my point)
 
Caught up on some of the streams. Phil Ivy was the poker idol for me during the poker boom, it was really disappointing to see him disappear both days. Dwan was fun to watch once he got comfortable at the table. Sucks they had a hard time keeping a full table though.

Garrett got put in some tough spots, but what’s up with all the fake yawning lol.
 

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